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We know this is a crazy and sensitive issue, especially since Life is the most high profile player to be caught up in an "investigation". But please stay calm and refrain from slandering players until we have more information. Egregious posts will be dealt with accordingly.

PLEASE READ THE OP BEFORE POSTING
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12131 Posts
January 29 2016 13:53 GMT
#201
On January 29 2016 22:50 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 22:46 brickrd wrote:
saying it makes no sense for a successful player to fix is the exact same thing as "why would [attractive celebrity] have to rape someone? women love him!" fyi


Different case imo, this is all about money, Life isn't even remotely short of money, he made $117k from prize money alone in 2015, and I could imagine him on a huge contract at KT.

As I wrote earlier - that doesn't mean he's innocent.
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 13:54:21
January 29 2016 13:53 GMT
#202
On January 29 2016 22:50 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 22:46 brickrd wrote:
saying it makes no sense for a successful player to fix is the exact same thing as "why would [attractive celebrity] have to rape someone? women love him!" fyi


Different case imo, this is all about money, Life isn't even remotely short of money, he made $117k from prize money alone in 2015, and I could imagine him on a huge contract at KT.

So? High-level players have matchfixed before. The voided Pinnacle bets even suggested a couple of other high-level players matchfixed. When the information was released, I was surprised B4 and Yoda were paid so much to throw games, I imagine someone like Life would have been paid waaaaaaaay more.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 13:55:12
January 29 2016 13:54 GMT
#203
On January 29 2016 22:46 brickrd wrote:
saying it makes no sense for a successful player to fix is the exact same thing as "why would [attractive celebrity] have to rape someone? women love him!" fyi


It does not mean he is innocent, but it makes it less likely still. It's not prove, but still relevant. It makes you question his motives.

Worst case scenario it's just greed, a base motive. But often that's just not the case. Most human beings have a reason for doing bad stuff. When the Prime case was made public, nobody was surprised, because everybody could guess the reason.

On January 29 2016 22:53 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 22:50 digmouse wrote:
On January 29 2016 22:46 brickrd wrote:
saying it makes no sense for a successful player to fix is the exact same thing as "why would [attractive celebrity] have to rape someone? women love him!" fyi


Different case imo, this is all about money, Life isn't even remotely short of money, he made $117k from prize money alone in 2015, and I could imagine him on a huge contract at KT.

As I wrote earlier - that doesn't mean he's innocent.



I does not, but it does make this case weird.
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Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
January 29 2016 13:54 GMT
#204
Starcraft really is the tennis of esports. D:

God, this is a nightmare.
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
January 29 2016 13:55 GMT
#205
This is ridiculous - even SaviOr or Prime guys did not arrested. Korean prosecutors hardly issue warrants unless the suspect disobeys summons.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
January 29 2016 13:55 GMT
#206
They just did it to take away people's attention from how awful new WCS is for the longevity of the game!

In the meantime Korean scene is strangling itself.
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
January 29 2016 13:56 GMT
#207
On January 29 2016 22:52 lichter wrote:
let's not turn this into an idiotic "rape" thread please

lol ok lichter. esports stars being defended by fans who don't want to believe they did something bad has no connection to sports stars or celebrities being defended by fans who don't want to believe they did something bad even when they're using equivalent logic which is flawed for the same reason

but sure, i get your point that we don't want to sidetrack the thread into something about rape, but i'm not guilty of that. i was making a logically valid point. but if you want to hallucinate that i'm trying to bait some kind of rapechat then mod how you gonna mod ;D
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Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
January 29 2016 13:57 GMT
#208
On January 29 2016 22:55 aQuaSC wrote:
They just did it to take away people's attention from how awful new WCS is for the longevity of the game!

In the meantime Korean scene is strangling itself.


Yeah, they want to make sure THEY kill the scene not the WCS
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1420 Posts
January 29 2016 13:57 GMT
#209
if life matchfixed or smth like that, the korean scene will drop dead for sure.

you can't jsut take that hard a blow while being already very weak.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
January 29 2016 13:57 GMT
#210
On January 29 2016 22:54 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 22:46 brickrd wrote:
saying it makes no sense for a successful player to fix is the exact same thing as "why would [attractive celebrity] have to rape someone? women love him!" fyi


It does not mean he is innocent, but it makes it less likely still. It's not prove, but still relevant. It makes you question his motives.

Worst case scenario it's just greed, a base motive. But often that's just not the case. Most human beings have a reason for doing bad stuff. When the Prime case was made public, nobody was surprised, because everybody could guess the reason.

Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 22:53 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 29 2016 22:50 digmouse wrote:
On January 29 2016 22:46 brickrd wrote:
saying it makes no sense for a successful player to fix is the exact same thing as "why would [attractive celebrity] have to rape someone? women love him!" fyi


Different case imo, this is all about money, Life isn't even remotely short of money, he made $117k from prize money alone in 2015, and I could imagine him on a huge contract at KT.

As I wrote earlier - that doesn't mean he's innocent.



I does not, but it does make this case weird.
it does not make it any less likely at all, and if you truly believe that then you're a starstruck fan not using proper critical thinking.
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55585 Posts
January 29 2016 13:58 GMT
#211
On January 29 2016 22:55 Thouhastmail wrote:
This is ridiculous - even SaviOr or Prime guys did not arrested. Korean prosecutors hardly issue warrants unless the suspect disobeys summons.

According to the thread on TL back then (with official investigation report etc.) the Prime guys were arrested. Though it's different in that they told us immediately why and released a report.
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aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
January 29 2016 13:59 GMT
#212
On January 29 2016 22:57 WrathSCII wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 22:55 aQuaSC wrote:
They just did it to take away people's attention from how awful new WCS is for the longevity of the game!

In the meantime Korean scene is strangling itself.


Yeah, they want to make sure THEY kill the scene not the WCS

I didn't think of that, maybe Life did something malicious to kill legitimacy of the Korean scene and therefore sacrifice himself so the others are not blamed for their errors? Hmm.
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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
January 29 2016 14:00 GMT
#213
studies show that zergs are more likely to get caught
why so 진지해?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28535 Posts
January 29 2016 14:01 GMT
#214
On January 29 2016 22:57 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 22:54 Musicus wrote:
On January 29 2016 22:46 brickrd wrote:
saying it makes no sense for a successful player to fix is the exact same thing as "why would [attractive celebrity] have to rape someone? women love him!" fyi


It does not mean he is innocent, but it makes it less likely still. It's not prove, but still relevant. It makes you question his motives.

Worst case scenario it's just greed, a base motive. But often that's just not the case. Most human beings have a reason for doing bad stuff. When the Prime case was made public, nobody was surprised, because everybody could guess the reason.

On January 29 2016 22:53 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 29 2016 22:50 digmouse wrote:
On January 29 2016 22:46 brickrd wrote:
saying it makes no sense for a successful player to fix is the exact same thing as "why would [attractive celebrity] have to rape someone? women love him!" fyi


Different case imo, this is all about money, Life isn't even remotely short of money, he made $117k from prize money alone in 2015, and I could imagine him on a huge contract at KT.

As I wrote earlier - that doesn't mean he's innocent.



I does not, but it does make this case weird.
it does not make it any less likely at all, and if you truly believe that then you're a starstruck fan not using proper critical thinking.

Hmm, it seems you're making the same mistake you accuse others of now. Things like this are actually more prevalent when people lack/ need money.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
January 29 2016 14:02 GMT
#215
On January 29 2016 22:56 brickrd wrote:
but sure, i get your point that we don't want to sidetrack the thread into something about rape, but i'm not guilty of that. i was making a logically valid point. but if you want to hallucinate that i'm trying to bait some kind of rapechat then mod how you gonna mod ;D


i know it wasn't a bait, but it's a sensitive issue that will definitely derail the thread and make it a lot worse than it has to be. doesn't matter who started it, it just needed to end.
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duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
January 29 2016 14:03 GMT
#216
On January 29 2016 23:00 Rekrul wrote:
studies show that zergs are more likely to get caught


Also if you are twins

And play for an organization which is sponsored by the broadcasting company

Protoss never get caught
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palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
January 29 2016 14:05 GMT
#217
On January 29 2016 22:50 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 22:46 brickrd wrote:
saying it makes no sense for a successful player to fix is the exact same thing as "why would [attractive celebrity] have to rape someone? women love him!" fyi


Different case imo, this is all about money, Life isn't even remotely short of money, he made $117k from prize money alone in 2015, and I could imagine him on a huge contract at KT.


Savior earned a lot of more money than life, but he was greedy, being large of money doesnt relate to be inoccent or guilty of matchfixing in SC world.
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
January 29 2016 14:06 GMT
#218
On January 29 2016 23:03 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 23:00 Rekrul wrote:
studies show that zergs are more likely to get caught


Also if you are twins

And play for an organization which is sponsored by the broadcasting company

Protoss never get caught

Protoss mever get caught?

I hope that u are not trying to say what I think u are...
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nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3767 Posts
January 29 2016 14:06 GMT
#219
I like how the OP phrased it:
We know this is a crazy and sensitive issue, especially since Life is the most high profile player to be caught up in an "investigation". But please stay calm and refrain from slandering players until we have more information. Egregious posts will be dealt with accordingly.


It sounds like slandering players might be acceptable in the future
aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
January 29 2016 14:07 GMT
#220
On January 29 2016 23:06 nimdil wrote:
I like how the OP phrased it:
Show nested quote +
We know this is a crazy and sensitive issue, especially since Life is the most high profile player to be caught up in an "investigation". But please stay calm and refrain from slandering players until we have more information. Egregious posts will be dealt with accordingly.


It sounds like slandering players might be acceptable in the future

Wasn't it always? Haha.
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