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We know this is a crazy and sensitive issue, especially since Life is the most high profile player to be caught up in an "investigation". But please stay calm and refrain from slandering players until we have more information. Egregious posts will be dealt with accordingly. PLEASE READ THE OP BEFORE POSTING | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12134 Posts
On January 29 2016 22:50 digmouse wrote: Different case imo, this is all about money, Life isn't even remotely short of money, he made $117k from prize money alone in 2015, and I could imagine him on a huge contract at KT. As I wrote earlier - that doesn't mean he's innocent. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On January 29 2016 22:50 digmouse wrote: Different case imo, this is all about money, Life isn't even remotely short of money, he made $117k from prize money alone in 2015, and I could imagine him on a huge contract at KT. So? High-level players have matchfixed before. The voided Pinnacle bets even suggested a couple of other high-level players matchfixed. When the information was released, I was surprised B4 and Yoda were paid so much to throw games, I imagine someone like Life would have been paid waaaaaaaay more. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
On January 29 2016 22:46 brickrd wrote: saying it makes no sense for a successful player to fix is the exact same thing as "why would [attractive celebrity] have to rape someone? women love him!" fyi It does not mean he is innocent, but it makes it less likely still. It's not prove, but still relevant. It makes you question his motives. Worst case scenario it's just greed, a base motive. But often that's just not the case. Most human beings have a reason for doing bad stuff. When the Prime case was made public, nobody was surprised, because everybody could guess the reason. On January 29 2016 22:53 deacon.frost wrote: As I wrote earlier - that doesn't mean he's innocent. I does not, but it does make this case weird. | ||
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Rehio
United States1718 Posts
God, this is a nightmare. | ||
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Thouhastmail
Korea (North)876 Posts
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aQuaSC
717 Posts
In the meantime Korean scene is strangling itself. | ||
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On January 29 2016 22:52 lichter wrote: let's not turn this into an idiotic "rape" thread please lol ok lichter. esports stars being defended by fans who don't want to believe they did something bad has no connection to sports stars or celebrities being defended by fans who don't want to believe they did something bad even when they're using equivalent logic which is flawed for the same reason but sure, i get your point that we don't want to sidetrack the thread into something about rape, but i'm not guilty of that. i was making a logically valid point. but if you want to hallucinate that i'm trying to bait some kind of rapechat then mod how you gonna mod ;D | ||
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Wrath
3175 Posts
On January 29 2016 22:55 aQuaSC wrote: They just did it to take away people's attention from how awful new WCS is for the longevity of the game! In the meantime Korean scene is strangling itself. Yeah, they want to make sure THEY kill the scene not the WCS  | ||
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Tanzklaue
Germany1430 Posts
you can't jsut take that hard a blow while being already very weak. | ||
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On January 29 2016 22:54 Musicus wrote: it does not make it any less likely at all, and if you truly believe that then you're a starstruck fan not using proper critical thinking.It does not mean he is innocent, but it makes it less likely still. It's not prove, but still relevant. It makes you question his motives. Worst case scenario it's just greed, a base motive. But often that's just not the case. Most human beings have a reason for doing bad stuff. When the Prime case was made public, nobody was surprised, because everybody could guess the reason. I does not, but it does make this case weird. | ||
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On January 29 2016 22:55 Thouhastmail wrote: This is ridiculous - even SaviOr or Prime guys did not arrested. Korean prosecutors hardly issue warrants unless the suspect disobeys summons. According to the thread on TL back then (with official investigation report etc.) the Prime guys were arrested. Though it's different in that they told us immediately why and released a report. | ||
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aQuaSC
717 Posts
On January 29 2016 22:57 WrathSCII wrote: Yeah, they want to make sure THEY kill the scene not the WCS I didn't think of that, maybe Life did something malicious to kill legitimacy of the Korean scene and therefore sacrifice himself so the others are not blamed for their errors? Hmm. | ||
Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
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Penev
28536 Posts
On January 29 2016 22:57 brickrd wrote: it does not make it any less likely at all, and if you truly believe that then you're a starstruck fan not using proper critical thinking. Hmm, it seems you're making the same mistake you accuse others of now. Things like this are actually more prevalent when people lack/ need money. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On January 29 2016 22:56 brickrd wrote: but sure, i get your point that we don't want to sidetrack the thread into something about rape, but i'm not guilty of that. i was making a logically valid point. but if you want to hallucinate that i'm trying to bait some kind of rapechat then mod how you gonna mod ;D i know it wasn't a bait, but it's a sensitive issue that will definitely derail the thread and make it a lot worse than it has to be. doesn't matter who started it, it just needed to end. | ||
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duke91
Germany1458 Posts
On January 29 2016 23:00 Rekrul wrote: studies show that zergs are more likely to get caught Also if you are twins And play for an organization which is sponsored by the broadcasting company Protoss never get caught | ||
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palexhur
Colombia730 Posts
On January 29 2016 22:50 digmouse wrote: Different case imo, this is all about money, Life isn't even remotely short of money, he made $117k from prize money alone in 2015, and I could imagine him on a huge contract at KT. Savior earned a lot of more money than life, but he was greedy, being large of money doesnt relate to be inoccent or guilty of matchfixing in SC world. | ||
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
On January 29 2016 23:03 duke91 wrote: Also if you are twins And play for an organization which is sponsored by the broadcasting company Protoss never get caught Protoss mever get caught? I hope that u are not trying to say what I think u are... | ||
nimdil
Poland3774 Posts
We know this is a crazy and sensitive issue, especially since Life is the most high profile player to be caught up in an "investigation". But please stay calm and refrain from slandering players until we have more information. Egregious posts will be dealt with accordingly. It sounds like slandering players might be acceptable in the future  | ||
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aQuaSC
717 Posts
On January 29 2016 23:06 nimdil wrote: I like how the OP phrased it: It sounds like slandering players might be acceptable in the future Wasn't it always? Haha. | ||
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