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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On January 25 2016 14:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: 60/30 = 2, unless you mean a different statistical average than the mean? i forgot to change that when i made an edit lol silly me | ||
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NiHiLuSsc2
United States50 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On January 25 2016 15:09 NiHiLuSsc2 wrote: doesnt sAviOr technically have 0 championships Vacated, but still have to count them for the sake of the analysis - trying to prove the best players dominated, and despite his morals, savior was one of the best. Also, where dat MMA retirement article at? :p | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
It varies wildly from sport to sport. Some (like Tennis) have players that are incredibly dominant to an almost oppressive extent, while others (most team sports) have very different results each year. Starcraft does seem to be less consistent than most individual sports, which does make it more disappointing to root for a single player for those that like to do that. edit: Also aren't these articles supposed to be 1000 words or less?  This kinda defeats the (fairly arbitrary) theme. | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On January 25 2016 15:21 Bagration wrote: Vacated, but still have to count them for the sake of the analysis - trying to prove the best players dominated, and despite his morals, savior was one of the best. Also, where dat MMA retirement article at? :p http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/500530-footprints-in-the-snow-a-hscxii-christmas-miracle he said he'd come back tho so this is more like a really long hiatus | ||
Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On January 25 2016 15:23 lichter wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/500530-footprints-in-the-snow-a-hscxii-christmas-miracle he said he'd come back tho so this is more like a really long hiatus if he actually does MMA is the most based player off all time I swear. | ||
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Dungeontay
126 Posts
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munch
Mute City2363 Posts
On January 25 2016 15:23 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Consistency is an interesting metric to measure. It varies wildly from sport to sport. Some (like Tennis) have players that are incredibly dominant to an almost oppressive extent, while others (most team sports) have very different results each year. Starcraft does seem to be less consistent than most individual sports, which does make it more disappointing to root for a single player for those that like to do that. Starcraft's format is much more susceptible to variation than other sports though. Each tennis tournament is determined over hundreds of points, while going from Code S Ro.32 to winner takes anywhere from 19 to 37. When you consider that a single mistake in a BO3 could put you at immediate risk of elimination, compared to the inherent buffer the tennis scoring system provides, it's no wonder there's more variety | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
people can be fans of any player, so it works both ways. your player always winning is fun, but your player never winning sucks even more. everyone knows that for sports fans losing hurts more than winning feels good. | ||
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munch
Mute City2363 Posts
On January 25 2016 15:33 lichter wrote: tbh i never understood the desire for dominance. having one winner all the time is fucking boring and has no relation to the 'legitimacy' of a sport. if anything, dominance over an excessive period of time is what turns a sport into a farce. having short periods of dominance is okay though. people can be fans of any player, so it works both ways. your player always winning is fun, but your player never winning sucks even more. everyone knows that for sports fans losing hurts more than winning feels good. I'm a sucker for sports pain though. Why else would I keep thinking INno's gonna deliver on the big stage | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On January 25 2016 15:33 lichter wrote: tbh i never understood the desire for dominance. having one winner all the time is fucking boring and has no relation to the 'legitimacy' of a sport. if anything, dominance over an excessive period of time is what turns a sport into a farce. having short periods of dominance is okay though. people can be fans of any player, so it works both ways. your player always winning is fun, but your player never winning sucks even more. everyone knows that for sports fans losing hurts more than winning feels good. I've been pretty happy watching Marineking lose. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9066 Posts
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RKC
2848 Posts
Point is, if SC2 had fewer tourneys like BW, maybe players like MC, Nestea and Zest (who grabbed most of their championships in a short period) wouldn't have gotten as many championships. Conversely, if BW had as many tourneys as SC2, maybe top players would've gotten more championships under their belt. Maybe Plexa's suggestion of taking account other major BW leagues would balance this 'time-quantity disparity' issue between BW and SC2. | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
(I know it's hard, if not impossible, to quantify patches into the data or any form of formula. Which perhaps just leads to the conclusion that it's hard, if not impossible, to analyse raw numbers from both games to compare their consistency rates. But good article and attempt, nonetheless!) | ||
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
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Hier
2391 Posts
On January 25 2016 15:09 NiHiLuSsc2 wrote: doesnt sAviOr technically have 0 championships No, he still has them. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
- check if results are different from random. - source data from aligulac. instead you just calculate all these random percentages and number, without really talking about what number you would expect for a consistent or non-consistent game, or why. No direction or solid conclusions, just random numbers right and left... It's like reading a sc2 strategy article in Men's Health by a bronzie saying how massing hydras is the best way to success in ZvP. But well, 99% of the readers won't be able to tell the difference, it is on a black background, you got pretty pictures, sexy title (with authors name in it ofc) and it's a featured news, so enjoy all the compliments you'll get for the great article. | ||
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