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molotow[eef]
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany81 Posts
December 22 2015 13:34 GMT
#181
its odd that a player with such succes in sc2 goes streaming bw. Is it just because they all adore playing sc1 more or is it because its not possible to do the same thing (afreeca bj) with sc2?
cop354g
Profile Joined December 2015
61 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-22 13:45:10
December 22 2015 13:43 GMT
#182
On December 22 2015 22:34 molotow[eef] wrote:
its odd that a player with such succes in sc2 goes streaming bw. Is it just because they all adore playing sc1 more or is it because its not possible to do the same thing (afreeca bj) with sc2?

Most likely yes. If they really enjoyed sc2 as a game, they would keep playing.

Actually, i think most pro gamers dont even like sc2 as a game really. They play sc2 because its only 1v1 game with real esport and its kinda okay game.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50629 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-22 13:49:28
December 22 2015 13:48 GMT
#183
I don't remember anyone streaming sc2 on afreeca, just isn't lucrative on a purely korean market compared to twitch where you'd get more viewers all over the world especially since SC2 is more popular outside korea.

Rain is someone who worked hard to become a progamer playing BW, he became a progamer to play BW, its his roots regardless of what success hes made as an SC2 player.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3301 Posts
December 22 2015 14:47 GMT
#184
Welcome back to BW, by.sun
T P Z sagi
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 22 2015 15:47 GMT
#185
All the bw fanatics coming here and explaining (again) how noone could ever enjoy playing sc2 when he played BW before.
It's hilarious really.

I bet him streaming BW (which isn't even confirmed that it's him afaik?) has nothing to do with BW being way more lucrative on afreeca. Srsly this level of stupidity is making me angry every single time
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50629 Posts
December 22 2015 16:00 GMT
#186
On December 23 2015 00:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:
All the bw fanatics coming here and explaining (again) how noone could ever enjoy playing sc2 when he played BW before.
It's hilarious really.

I bet him streaming BW (which isn't even confirmed that it's him afaik?) has nothing to do with BW being way more lucrative on afreeca. Srsly this level of stupidity is making me angry every single time


I never said that he didn't enjoy playing SC2, if it was for some reason even implied then let me set it straight, his best moments of his career has been playing SC2, I'm sure his best memories will also be of the same time, doubt anyone is arguing otherwise. what I'm saying is simply this, he trained to become a BW progamer, he was already a progamer when he started SC2.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 22 2015 16:02 GMT
#187
I am not really talking about you
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50629 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-22 16:13:08
December 22 2015 16:12 GMT
#188
On December 23 2015 01:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I am not really talking about you


but I'm a bw fanatic therefore I fit under your ridiculous statement.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 22 2015 16:28 GMT
#189
It isn't ridiculous. It happens every single time. Don't even try to deny it.
You know what? I too will watch Rain on afreeca when he starts streaming, it will be interesting to watch.
But all these stupid remarks of BW guys every single time something like this happens? Srsly?
It is so fucking childish and just proves the notion most sc2 people have of bw (people).

These comments are the only reason you NEVER can talk about bw in a design thread because you will just hear "bw elitist" every single time, i understand why and cannot even fault the people thinking that after reading all the mental garbage real bw elitists bring EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME to these threads.

Rant over, won't respond to anyone else because the thread doesn't deserve this direction tbh. Still had to be sad.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
December 22 2015 16:50 GMT
#190
On December 23 2015 01:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:
It isn't ridiculous. It happens every single time. Don't even try to deny it.
You know what? I too will watch Rain on afreeca when he starts streaming, it will be interesting to watch.
But all these stupid remarks of BW guys every single time something like this happens? Srsly?
It is so fucking childish and just proves the notion most sc2 people have of bw (people).

These comments are the only reason you NEVER can talk about bw in a design thread because you will just hear "bw elitist" every single time, i understand why and cannot even fault the people thinking that after reading all the mental garbage real bw elitists bring EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME to these threads.

Rant over, won't respond to anyone else because the thread doesn't deserve this direction tbh. Still had to be sad.


You forgot the "why is this posted in the sc2 section? this should be moved to bw!"

I totally agree with you. I'm determined to follow Flash if he goes to BW, but it's gonna be hard to participate in the LR threads :'(
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50629 Posts
December 22 2015 16:59 GMT
#191
On December 23 2015 01:50 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2015 01:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:
It isn't ridiculous. It happens every single time. Don't even try to deny it.
You know what? I too will watch Rain on afreeca when he starts streaming, it will be interesting to watch.
But all these stupid remarks of BW guys every single time something like this happens? Srsly?
It is so fucking childish and just proves the notion most sc2 people have of bw (people).

These comments are the only reason you NEVER can talk about bw in a design thread because you will just hear "bw elitist" every single time, i understand why and cannot even fault the people thinking that after reading all the mental garbage real bw elitists bring EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME to these threads.

Rant over, won't respond to anyone else because the thread doesn't deserve this direction tbh. Still had to be sad.


You forgot the "why is this posted in the sc2 section? this should be moved to bw!"

I totally agree with you. I'm determined to follow Flash if he goes to BW, but it's gonna be hard to participate in the LR threads :'(

Lol why?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
December 22 2015 17:19 GMT
#192
On December 23 2015 01:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2015 01:50 Silvana wrote:
On December 23 2015 01:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:
It isn't ridiculous. It happens every single time. Don't even try to deny it.
You know what? I too will watch Rain on afreeca when he starts streaming, it will be interesting to watch.
But all these stupid remarks of BW guys every single time something like this happens? Srsly?
It is so fucking childish and just proves the notion most sc2 people have of bw (people).

These comments are the only reason you NEVER can talk about bw in a design thread because you will just hear "bw elitist" every single time, i understand why and cannot even fault the people thinking that after reading all the mental garbage real bw elitists bring EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME to these threads.

Rant over, won't respond to anyone else because the thread doesn't deserve this direction tbh. Still had to be sad.


You forgot the "why is this posted in the sc2 section? this should be moved to bw!"

I totally agree with you. I'm determined to follow Flash if he goes to BW, but it's gonna be hard to participate in the LR threads :'(

Lol why?


I've spent like 10 minutes writing and erasing text trying to explain it, but I can't find the right expressions (I suck at English), and I don't wanna start and argument. In short: it will feel bad having to read all those comments (those that Viper mentioned) on a regular basis and the general negative tone when talking about SC2.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50629 Posts
December 22 2015 17:28 GMT
#193
Wat

I don't know if you've spent much time in the BW section but most of us don't care/are indifferent about SC2 in general outside of a few people making the odd comment or two about a person playing sc2

God damn it viper you make us all out to be angry and bitter people.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
December 22 2015 18:43 GMT
#194
oh man there is no one like him, he had such a unique approach to the game, im gonna miss him, really sad to see him go, best of luck to you Rain in your future endeavors
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
lidary
Profile Joined December 2014
Russian Federation51 Posts
December 22 2015 20:51 GMT
#195
Too suddenly and very sad.
my Zest photo collection: lidary.tumblr.com
nighcol
Profile Joined January 2012
298 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-23 06:31:51
December 23 2015 04:36 GMT
#196
On December 23 2015 02:28 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Wat

I don't know if you've spent much time in the BW section but most of us don't care/are indifferent about SC2 in general outside of a few people making the odd comment or two about a person playing sc2

God damn it viper you make us all out to be angry and bitter people.


You seem okay but the BW section in general does seem super salty and bitter to me. Not saying everyone is like that but so many that it becomes the general impression. And then you get a lot of these bitter interactions in the other forums here, in /r/starcraft etc. Sad really...

This has been even reflected in the english casting for VANT starleague.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-23 05:27:37
December 23 2015 05:23 GMT
#197
they are past BW player of course people have right to say "welcome back to bw" or "they prefer bw to sc2". if say Parting retire nobody will go to thread and say he join BW, never.

do not know why sc2 fan are so triggered and coming with stupid rants like "NO BROOD WAR, ONLY SC2 GOOD" rant. so funny and ignorant.

they bring that crap childish ignorant yet pretend know-it-all (think they know how to balance game they themselves never play) attitude everywhere of course people get angry. sc2 are the real trollers
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 23 2015 05:40 GMT
#198
On December 23 2015 00:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:
All the bw fanatics coming here and explaining (again) how noone could ever enjoy playing sc2 when he played BW before.
It's hilarious really.

I bet him streaming BW (which isn't even confirmed that it's him afaik?) has nothing to do with BW being way more lucrative on afreeca. Srsly this level of stupidity is making me angry every single time


and we will always have people like you viper. The parallelism is uncanny. At the end of the day you cannot force people to keep playing a game they just don't care to play anymore and you hear it from foreigners all the time when they say it's a job, which it should be and many of them just lose the passion or it just doesn't become fun anymore where there are still a lot of guys who get enjoyment out of BW even when they were working in a sweat shop environment.

The hilarity goes both ways.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
December 23 2015 06:44 GMT
#199
People enjoy BW. People enjoy SC2. Some can even enjoy both. Who cares. I played the shit out of brood war for like 8 years. Now i play sc2.
Rainfall7711
Profile Joined December 2011
329 Posts
March 09 2016 13:28 GMT
#200
Wow. Hit's me right in the feels. If there was any player i ever called a favourite, it was him. His name, and play style resonated with me a ton. Haven't played for a while, and watch sporadically, but this is tough. Good Luck Rain!
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