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Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
November 08 2015 08:26 GMT
#21
$O$ the 100K man strikes again! that was one of the best finals in SC2 ever!!!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
November 08 2015 08:27 GMT
#22
On November 08 2015 17:26 endy wrote:
can we say $O$ again now?

More like $$O$$.
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Frenchy91
Profile Joined August 2015
France36 Posts
November 08 2015 08:41 GMT
#23
I think I would still rank him as the greatest Hots player. Then Taeja, then sOs, then tie between Inno, Parting, and herO... Then Maru, Rain, soO, Classic.... then Byul, Polt, Zest, Bomber


Taeja ? Are you serious ? In terms of terran Innovation is clearly ahead, 2 GSL win, one GSL final versus Homestory cup... Maru is a lot better too.

Same with Parting. Classic is clearly ahead for me, 2 stealeagues and a very stacked IEM, 2 Blizzcon semis, great performance in Proleague.

It's always hard to make this ranking because life has done very bad for example in team league and Proleague is very important in Korea.

It also depends how you value consistency. Maru is a monster in this regard, SOS and Life have absmyssal low and big breakout performance.

I think TL staff will do a power rank of the best HOTS player we will see (if Taeja is ahead of Inno/Maru joke of the year).
INnoVation SoO
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 08 2015 09:02 GMT
#24
On November 08 2015 17:41 Frenchy91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
I think I would still rank him as the greatest Hots player. Then Taeja, then sOs, then tie between Inno, Parting, and herO... Then Maru, Rain, soO, Classic.... then Byul, Polt, Zest, Bomber


Taeja ? Are you serious ? In terms of terran Innovation is clearly ahead, 2 GSL win, one GSL final versus Homestory cup... Maru is a lot better too.

Same with Parting. Classic is clearly ahead for me, 2 stealeagues and a very stacked IEM, 2 Blizzcon semis, great performance in Proleague.

It's always hard to make this ranking because life has done very bad for example in team league and Proleague is very important in Korea.

It also depends how you value consistency. Maru is a monster in this regard, SOS and Life have absmyssal low and big breakout performance.

I think TL staff will do a power rank of the best HOTS player we will see (if Taeja is ahead of Inno/Maru joke of the year).

Yeah Taeja would be unlikely to breach the top 5 HotS players because he was non-existent this year. He could be ahead of maru, but inno has been more consistent over the entirety of HotS and must be ahead of Taeja. Life has been the best overall, for sure, and sOs has to rank somewhere.
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FusionCutter
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada974 Posts
November 08 2015 09:09 GMT
#25
Woulda been nice to spoiler free news announcement like "Congrats to winner" trying to get to the VOD link and got spoiled..

ugh. Anyway, congrats to sOs.
sircaw
Profile Joined October 2011
10 Posts
November 08 2015 09:12 GMT
#26
Wonderful,wonderful,Wonderful.

Great final,Great players and what a great way to say goodbye to Heart of the swarm.
MoonFan
Profile Joined July 2013
Vietnam55 Posts
November 08 2015 09:12 GMT
#27
Very nice series
A little sad for life though
But to be fair Life showed a lot of his ZvP in his recent matches for SoS to study
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
November 08 2015 09:20 GMT
#28
Retrospectively, if sOs did not replace Zest at MSI he won't be at BlizzCon in the first place so he probably have to buy Zest a good meal lol.
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REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
November 08 2015 09:27 GMT
#29
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S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
SourPatchParent
Profile Joined October 2011
United States44 Posts
November 08 2015 09:27 GMT
#30
Good Games Heart of the Swarm!
Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid. -Albert Einstein
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12134 Posts
November 08 2015 09:34 GMT
#31
On November 08 2015 18:20 digmouse wrote:
Retrospectively, if sOs did not replace Zest at MSI he won't be at BlizzCon in the first place so he probably have to buy Zest a good meal lol.

Life must be really happy that KT did not send Zest there
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-08 09:40:44
November 08 2015 09:37 GMT
#32
On November 08 2015 17:27 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 17:26 endy wrote:
can we say $O$ again now?

More like $$O$$.


On November 08 2015 18:34 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 18:20 digmouse wrote:
Retrospectively, if sOs did not replace Zest at MSI he won't be at BlizzCon in the first place so he probably have to buy Zest a good meal lol.

Life must be really happy that KT did not send Zest there

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Roadog
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1670 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-08 11:18:28
November 08 2015 09:43 GMT
#33
+ Show Spoiler +
Oh my god I had work right as the Grand Final started RIP but I got back and I just watching finished the replay DAMN THE STUPID TWITCH PREVIEW THUMBNAIL FUNCTION FOR SPOILING THE FIRST 6 GAMES


+ Show Spoiler +
On October 19 2015 15:36 Roadog wrote:
FIRST TIME IN A BLIZZCON LR THREAD

HYPE HYPE HYPE

$♥$ HYPE
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I'M GOING TO STOP UNDERRATING sOs AND GO FULL FANBOY

(P)herO 3:0 (T)FanTaSy
(P)Classic 3:2 (Z)ByuL
(P)Zest 2:3 (T)INnoVation
(Z)Life 3:0 (P)Lilbow
(P)Rain 3:1 (T)Polt
(P)sOs 3:1 (P)PartinG
(T)Dream 3:1 (Z)Hydra
(T)Maru 3:2 (Z)Rogue


(P)herO 3:2 (P)Classic
(T)INnoVation 3:2 (Z)Life
(P)Rain 2:3 (P)sOs
(T)Dream 3:1 (T)Maru

(P)herO 2:3 (T)INnoVation
(P)sOs 3:1 (T)Dream



(P)sOs 4:1 (T)INnoVation in the final


In the end, my bracket fell completely to shit, except for one guy, my guy, the absolute madman sOs


$♥$ he actually did it, the absolute madman AGAIN

And in one of the top series in the HotS era. A fitting way to end the HotS era, really. Two of some of the most infamous "attackers" (or to put it more cynically, cheesers), with big arsenals full of stupid shit, all-in in the biggest tournament of the year, and one of the biggest of this expansion.

sOs needed a miracle just to get in to Blizzcon after a bad first 2 seasons and dual Ro16 exits in both Starleagues in Season 3. Time was running out, but he got that miracle when Zest was pulled from the MSI MGA for Proleague, and sOs took his chance and stepped in for him. With a victory at MSI MGA and a semifinal finish at DreamHack Stockholm, sOs had luckily dodged the #16 and #15 spots and dodged dates with either herO+INnoVation/Life, or Maru.

This wasn't a case of two prizefighters playing it safe, feeling each other out gradually in the beginning before throwing their standard punches. This was like a duel between street fighters, of Krav Maga masters, with sucker-punches right out of the gate(way), throwing their dirtiest nut-shots, eye-gouges and charley-horses, right to the end. Things got stupid right in the beginning with the serial escalation of 11gate Zealot into Cannon rush into proxy Oracle at the Cannon Rush location into a final gateway all-in for sOs to take Game 1. Countless times I saw some fearful deja vu: sOs pulling out the Tempests again (shoutout to #Rotti), Lifeling drama on Moonlight Madness, the Protoss trying to take a third with a completely inadequate army on Bridgehead, losing both, and trying a DT attack that in the end was too little, too late. It all came down to Game 7, #esportsfanfiction, on a Zerg-favored map, the map with the Zerg symbol right in the middle, Iron Fortress. Despite having never trailed in the series, the odds were suddenly stacked against sOs.

Game 7. When I saw the 14/14 I got horrible flashbacks of the GSL 2015 Season 1 Final, Game 7, where Life clutched it out and 10pooled out PartinG. A cheese? In Game 7? PvZ on Iron Fortress again?

But! Just in this tournament alone we have seen sOs pull Houdini move after Houdini move, making sick comebacks against every opponent he faced, if not in the series overall, in the individual games. Stupid shit vs. stupid shit, 14/14 colliding with the dual-probe-scout Cannon Rush. I don't really have anything more to say about this game; I lost my fucking mind when I saw the Stargate, when another $100,000 was in sight for sOs, even though in the end, it was the Blink attack that finished off the tournament.

sOs will probably never achieve bonjwa status. Even now he is derided as a cheeser and a fluke (well, it's been 3 flukes now), a weekend warrior who has not acheived the consistency needed to make him one of the greatest of all time. But whether it's a no-name tournament with players from the Middle East and a prize pool of exactly $0 and 0 WCS points but with no VODs and no replays, or the year-end World Championship with all the greatest Starleague and WCS champions of the year and a $100,000 grand prize, as long as sOs is in the tournament, he is a guy you can never, ever count out.

+ Show Spoiler +
Now, out of all the sports bandwagons I have jumped on:
- 2008: Red Wings, Patriots, Celtics, Chelsea FC, Germany in football, Sweden in hockey, Roger Federer
- 2014 November: sOs
Another one has delivered me a major, major championship.


PASSHUN OVERFLOWING
SORRY FOR THE BLOG
AHHHHHHHHHHHH WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
sOs fan. Zerg just seem to have the most...potential. Dubbo Robo Colo! Why I play Protoss: Stalkers, bacon, toilets and mama -- Chelsea FC
AKAvg
Profile Joined April 2014
Brazil298 Posts
November 08 2015 09:44 GMT
#34
And here I thought that "another 100k tournament and $O$ is in it" was a joke...

I guess 30k-40k pots don't motive him enough, :D
theMagus
Profile Joined February 2013
578 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-08 09:51:08
November 08 2015 09:48 GMT
#35
sos such a money player. wanted life to win but well-deserved victory for him (even though sc2 protoss mechanics are messed up lel :D)
"Give away the stone. Let the oceans take and transmutate this cold and fated anchor. Let the waters kiss and transmutate these leaden grudges into gold. Let go."
RandomPlayer
Profile Joined April 2012
Russian Federation400 Posts
November 08 2015 09:56 GMT
#36
came here to see the finals, and boom SOS won! thanks for the spoilers! someone doesn't learn with time..
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1114 Posts
November 08 2015 09:57 GMT
#37
Maybe me and my buddie are grumpy but IMO the finals didn't produce the best and highest level of sc2 I've seen. The last game being a good example. Life let sOs have the watch tower and basically allowed sOs to see all the lings moving across the map. I feel like that is a mistake a Diamond or Masters Zerg makes once or twice, but not the best Zerg in the world.

I also felt that Life really messed up in the game with Tempest and he had that game won but he moved into the choke instead of staying defensive and threw it.

In HotS we never had a champion of the level of MVP, i hope that changes in LotV.
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
November 08 2015 10:21 GMT
#38
Excellent finals. Wasn't the "highest level" of games, but they were still incredibly entertaining. Very back and forth, very tense, and just absolutely oozing with storyline.

That said, what's everyone's opinions on the best one or two series from this weekend? I didn't have a chance to watch many of them due to the time difference.
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Mikku
Profile Joined June 2012
Czech Republic58 Posts
November 08 2015 10:44 GMT
#39
$O$ is, no doubt, the greediest protoss player ever ^^
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
November 08 2015 10:48 GMT
#40
Excellent finals to wrap up Hots. Would've loved it if Life won, but the story of sOs really showing his class in 100k$ is just too good to pass.
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