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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Source: https://t.co/brhgVHDZF1
Important Announcement from Azubu:
We are deeply saddened by the news coming from the competitive StarCraft II scene in Korea. For those who are unaware, 12 people were just arrested in Korea for match fixing and illegal betting in competitive StarCraft II circuit. As a supporter of KeSPA and the competitive Korean pro gaming scene, this goes against everything we stand for. We expect our pro players to always compete at their highest level, and we will not tolerate players abusing the trust of the fans. Thus, Azubu will be taking a strong stance on this issue and we will be banning anyone who has participated in this match fixing incident from Azubu.tv.
Supporting the highest level of competitive play is important here at Azubu, and we will not tolerate any match fixing, illegal betting, or other abuses of the fans' trust. To support this promise, we will be working closely with KeSPA and other eSports organizations to protect the fans and the scene. Thankfully these events are rare, but we here at Azubu will be doing all that we can to support the integrity of competitive eSports.
Azubu has been streaming all SPOTV events in both Korean and English. Their support for KeSPA's call for a ban against streamers implicated in matchfixing contrasts Afreeca.tv's stance on the matter so far. It will be interesting to see whether other streaming platforms will follow suit and what the future will hold for platforms that decline on participating in this ban.
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Yay, Korean fans love Twitch Korea and Azubu.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
tbh Azubu is the only platform that lets me watch source smoothly, so I love them
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Also has DVR functionality
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On October 21 2015 09:53 lichter wrote:
tbh Azubu is the only platform that lets me watch source smoothly, so I love them
for me it's the other way around since lcs worlds began.
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On October 21 2015 10:04 stuchiu wrote:
Also has DVR functionality
My favourite part.
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Interesting that they specify THIS matchfixing scandal
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Well done, Azubu.
No mercy for cheaters.
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While we're at it, let's crucify the match-fixers as well. Seems totally reasonable!!!
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It is curious that a shady company owned by shady controllers adhere to Kespa's statement.
Perhaps it is a marketing strategy? "Hey, we're legal, not like the Afreeca guys!"
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On October 21 2015 11:53 Apoteosis wrote:
It is curious that a shady company owned by shady controllers adhere to Kespa's statement.
Perhaps it is a marketing strategy? "Hey, we're legal, not like the Afreeca guys!"
at this point Azubu has pretty much cleared out their shady past by providing the single best stream in the market (at least for us spectators)
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Good guy Azubu 
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On October 21 2015 11:53 Apoteosis wrote:
It is curious that a shady company owned by shady controllers adhere to Kespa's statement.
Perhaps it is a marketing strategy? "Hey, we're legal, not like the Afreeca guys!"
It's called PR  .
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On October 21 2015 11:47 14CC wrote:
While we're at it, let's crucify the match-fixers as well. Seems totally reasonable!!!
People who have been making this argument over and over on this forum are either children or simply do not see the actual ramifications of allowing match-fixers to be present on websites that host legitimate professional tournament play.
If you genuinely like the players so much that you would continue to put the integrity of a platform in question then I don't really understand what the point of having player unions like kespa are for in the first place. The constant: "the law has already been served, let me ( or whoever else ) watch them!" ideology is the very reason they are in the situation in the first place. They lost one source of revenue, which was through cheating, and so next they will move on to exploiting whatever other means they can for additional money. If you think that it is okay to support these people after what they have done to the livelihood of other players in their region then there is certainly something wrong with the cultural, or perhaps individual, approach you have to this problem.
Tbh, to me it seems something more of a moral question than anything else. There is, as others have said, absolutely nothing wrong with them moving on and working in another area as many others do.
pls ~.~
ps: azubu is pretty legit.. if you haven't used their site I would definitely recommend it for the reasons others have mentioned.
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On October 21 2015 15:50 -Kyo- wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2015 11:47 14CC wrote:
While we're at it, let's crucify the match-fixers as well. Seems totally reasonable!!! People who have been making this argument over and over on this forum are either children or simply do not see the actual ramifications of allowing match-fixers to be present on websites that host legitimate professional tournament play. If you genuinely like the players so much that you would continue to put the integrity of a platform in question then I don't really understand what the point of having player unions like kespa are for in the first place. The constant: "the law has already been served, let me ( or whoever else ) watch them!" ideology is the very reason they are in the situation in the first place. They lost one source of revenue, which was through cheating, and so next they will move on to exploiting whatever other means they can for additional money. If you think that it is okay to support these people after what they have done to the livelihood of other players in their region then there is certainly something wrong with the cultural, or perhaps individual, approach you have to this problem. Tbh, to me it seems something more of a moral question than anything else. There is, as others have said, absolutely nothing wrong with them moving on and working in another area as many others do. pls ~.~ ps: azubu is pretty legit.. if you haven't used their site I would definitely recommend it for the reasons others have mentioned.
kespa isn't really a player union. It's more a esport-bussiness umbrella organization.
To let the matchfixers stream is a moral question for me, too. Especially in the case of prime one has to consider the hard circumstances they were in. That's no excuse but I think they deserve a second chance after the fulfillment of their punishment. They're humans after all and should not only be seen under the light of the mistakes they've done once. To ban them from streaming is in my eyes nothing other than dull revenge.
And if you say, they harmed the esport-scene. Yes, they probably did, but Gerrard also spent his life and all his dedication into the SC2-Scene delivering us fans greatest moments of the SC2-history. He probably didn't do all this out of greed. He was dumb and wrong and has driven players into their ruin. But it's not that nothing good had come out of him for SC2.
Plus I don't understand why the integrity of a streaming platform would be harmed if they allow streamers who did betrayal on another field. Streaming and tournaments are different things.
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good now that azubu has banned all matchfixers matchfixing is over
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On October 21 2015 15:50 -Kyo- wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2015 11:47 14CC wrote:
While we're at it, let's crucify the match-fixers as well. Seems totally reasonable!!! People who have been making this argument over and over on this forum are either children or simply do not see the actual ramifications of allowing match-fixers to be present on websites that host legitimate professional tournament play. If you genuinely like the players so much that you would continue to put the integrity of a platform in question then I don't really understand what the point of having player unions like kespa are for in the first place. The constant: "the law has already been served, let me ( or whoever else ) watch them!" ideology is the very reason they are in the situation in the first place. They lost one source of revenue, which was through cheating, and so next they will move on to exploiting whatever other means they can for additional money. If you think that it is okay to support these people after what they have done to the livelihood of other players in their region then there is certainly something wrong with the cultural, or perhaps individual, approach you have to this problem. Tbh, to me it seems something more of a moral question than anything else. There is, as others have said, absolutely nothing wrong with them moving on and working in another area as many others do. pls ~.~ ps: azubu is pretty legit.. if you haven't used their site I would definitely recommend it for the reasons others have mentioned.
Don't interweave insults into your arguments for people who disagree with you. KeSPA is NOT a player union, not at all!
Did Zubu actually have any convicted matchfixers using their service? Also: Considering the shady history of this company I think of this statement as highly hypocrite.
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On October 21 2015 15:50 -Kyo- wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2015 11:47 14CC wrote:
While we're at it, let's crucify the match-fixers as well. Seems totally reasonable!!! People who have been making this argument over and over on this forum are either children or simply do not see the actual ramifications of allowing match-fixers to be present on websites that host legitimate professional tournament play. If you genuinely like the players so much that you would continue to put the integrity of a platform in question then I don't really understand what the point of having player unions like kespa are for in the first place. The constant: "the law has already been served, let me ( or whoever else ) watch them!" ideology is the very reason they are in the situation in the first place. They lost one source of revenue, which was through cheating, and so next they will move on to exploiting whatever other means they can for additional money. If you think that it is okay to support these people after what they have done to the livelihood of other players in their region then there is certainly something wrong with the cultural, or perhaps individual, approach you have to this problem. Tbh, to me it seems something more of a moral question than anything else. There is, as others have said, absolutely nothing wrong with them moving on and working in another area as many others do. pls ~.~ ps: azubu is pretty legit.. if you haven't used their site I would definitely recommend it for the reasons others have mentioned.
I take the children option, in my age it's actually flattering.
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Azubu with the sick PR moves
On October 21 2015 15:50 -Kyo- wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2015 11:47 14CC wrote:
While we're at it, let's crucify the match-fixers as well. Seems totally reasonable!!! People who have been making this argument over and over on this forum are either children or simply do not see the actual ramifications of allowing match-fixers to be present on websites that host legitimate professional tournament play. If you genuinely like the players so much that you would continue to put the integrity of a platform in question then I don't really understand what the point of having player unions like kespa are for in the first place. The constant: "the law has already been served, let me ( or whoever else ) watch them!" ideology is the very reason they are in the situation in the first place. They lost one source of revenue, which was through cheating, and so next they will move on to exploiting whatever other means they can for additional money. If you think that it is okay to support these people after what they have done to the livelihood of other players in their region then there is certainly something wrong with the cultural, or perhaps individual, approach you have to this problem. Tbh, to me it seems something more of a moral question than anything else. There is, as others have said, absolutely nothing wrong with them moving on and working in another area as many others do. pls ~.~ ps: azubu is pretty legit.. if you haven't used their site I would definitely recommend it for the reasons others have mentioned.
Welp. You expect people to take you seriously when you insult them and say that KeSPA is player union? Yeah right.
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Umm.. I thought arrest is not yet convicted... why is even Azubu treating them like it is a sure thing. Or is Korean law not the same as other developed nations... innocent until proven guilty...
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On October 21 2015 22:43 Hok wrote:
Umm.. I thought arrest is not yet convicted... why is even Azubu treating them like it is a sure thing. Or is Korean law not the same as other developed nations... innocent until proven guilty...
KeSPA and Azubu are, to my knowledge, not courts of law.
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So they're rewarded for matchfixing, wtf?
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On October 22 2015 00:46 Saechiis wrote:
So they're rewarded for matchfixing, wtf?
I'm pretty capable of thinking out of the box, but I have absolutely no idea how you can come to this conclusion...
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While I fucking hate Azubu as a business, their platform is amazing. IMO banning match fixers doesn't even matter cause nobody uses the service lol, but holy shit that is one of the best platforms I have ever used. It's fast, sleek, rewind live streams, multilingual chats, and back when the beta page was new and I tried streaming on it the service was much more reliable and had next to no delay by default, versus Twitch having unavoidable delay.
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I respect this move from azubu and feel other stream sites should follow suit to protect the legitimacy of esports.
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United States7483 Posts
They're not banning Savior though. Inconsistent?
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On October 22 2015 13:11 Whitewing wrote:
They're not banning Savior though. Inconsistent?
They only mentioned this scandal. In all honestly the only ones happy with this are pro players. I think we should keep this whole streaming thing away from the scandal. They in no way correlate aside from the fact they're both StarCraft II. Streaming is not a tournament and should not be treated like one. IMO Azubu did this for publicity.
Like, what if streaming service X banned you and me for being on TeamLiquid right now, because TL and streaming service X don't get along?
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Not convicted, yet punished. Interesting. Leads me to believe this is just a PR opportunity.
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United States7483 Posts
On October 22 2015 13:55 Dickbutt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2015 13:11 Whitewing wrote:
They're not banning Savior though. Inconsistent? They only mentioned this scandal. In all honestly the only ones happy with this are pro players. I think we should keep this whole streaming thing away from the scandal. They in no way correlate aside from the fact they're both StarCraft II. Streaming is not a tournament and should not be treated like one. IMO Azubu did this for publicity. Like, what if streaming service X banned you and me for being on TeamLiquid right now, because TL and streaming service X don't get along?
Oh I agree, I don't think streaming services should be banning the matchfixers. They're already being prosecuted and they're banned from competing, banning them from streaming is just vindictive for no real reason.
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The Azubu criminals riding the PR train.
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Hit the nail on the head synd, need to stay relevant. I love Azubu from a development standpoint but I will not support them simply because they've done so much fucked up shit.
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