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...no words for describing the sadness this kind of stuff can infuse me... meh..
Match-fixing: Prosecutor's Report - Page 2
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CynicalDeath
Italy3358 Posts
...no words for describing the sadness this kind of stuff can infuse me... meh.. | ||
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DinoMight
United States3725 Posts
We suspected this has been happening for a while. Positively, they've finally caught some of the people involved. Hopefully this discourages it from happening again, at least for a while... | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On October 19 2015 21:18 DoctorHot wrote: It always amazes me that it isn't the bad players who are throwing players but the ones who have been really good. But then again, they have more to gain - since they're good, more people will be betting FOR them, and they'll be able to make more money off the loss. So maybe they good players are what you need to watch out for? I'm all confused now. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Yoda the underdog in all of those matches? In which case it is the perfect situation for a gambler to fix. Yoda's good enough to drive action on the game, but as an underdog no one will bat an eye if he loses. Even if he does a bad job pretending, then it's just him 'cracking under pressure' of facing a better opponent. Not that I'm an expert on match-fixing, but that's how I understand it working, you bet the underdog in order to remove uncertainty (because that's all you care about, going from 75% odds to 100%) and avoid suspicion. If you get greedy and pay the favorite the take dives, well you have to offer him a lot more for one and it's a lot more suspicious for two. | ||
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29 fps
United States5724 Posts
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xtorn
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On October 20 2015 02:05 Wuster wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Yoda the underdog in all of those matches? In which case it is the perfect situation for a gambler to fix. Yoda's good enough to drive action on the game, but as an underdog no one will bat an eye if he loses. Even if he does a bad job pretending, then it's just him 'cracking under pressure' of facing a better opponent. Not that I'm an expert on match-fixing, but that's how I understand it working, you bet the underdog in order to remove uncertainty (because that's all you care about, going from 75% odds to 100%) and avoid suspicion. If you get greedy and pay the favorite the take dives, well you have to offer him a lot more for one and it's a lot more suspicious for two. It's a sound theory, it would lend credence to the Innovation and Soulkey suspect matches being the "fake" fixes at least | ||
Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
I also like the graphics. | ||
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masterrn
72 Posts
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On October 20 2015 04:12 masterrn wrote: wait what about MarineKingPrime getting crawler rushed?? Depends on who's telling the story. Either no proof found or still being investigated. I'd like to think the former and he just went full MarineKing | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On October 20 2015 02:36 showstealer1829 wrote: It's a sound theory, it would lend credence to the Innovation and Soulkey suspect matches being the "fake" fixes at least Keep in mind there was speculation that a lot of games aren't actually being fixed in the traditional sense, but to manipulate prop bets like game time, units killed, expansions taken, ect. I don't know the validity of those but some anonymous posters talked about it in the past. I could probably dig up the links if it's not too off topic. On October 20 2015 04:17 showstealer1829 wrote: Depends on who's telling the story. Either no proof found or still being investigated. I'd like to think the former and he just went full MarineKing I would like to believe that as the investigation was so centered on Gerrald / Prime that anyone closely associated would have been thoroughly invested, including MK (he basically was bankrolling the team back when he was good and stuck around for ages). But I don't/can't know for sure, so maybe that's just me naively hoping for the best. | ||
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Elentos
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16684 Posts
thanks for the hard work. For North American readers.. we need some guy with a John Madden voice to describe the diagram with all teh arrows.. | ||
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joshie0808
Canada1023 Posts
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ThorPool
Panama145 Posts
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Kerence
Sweden1817 Posts
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Gilgamesh11
South Africa23 Posts
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Gilgamesh11
South Africa23 Posts
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ejozl
Denmark3366 Posts
On October 20 2015 05:12 Gilgamesh11 wrote: At least Creator got the fuck away before the shit hit the fan. Genuinely feel bad for any player on Prime. A headcoach that is willing to go through so much to come by, cannot imagine the amount of pressure some of the players were put under by him. | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
After YoDa was paid to match-fix once, the brokers blackmailed YoDa into manipulating additional matches free of compensation by threatening to expose his doings. And this is when YoDa got a chronic stomach pain I suspect. Going from cool progamer dude to, well, some (presumably) rather hairy gangster's plaything... | ||
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Gilgamesh11
South Africa23 Posts
On October 20 2015 05:51 BaneRiders wrote: And this is when YoDa got a chronic stomach pain I suspect. Going from cool progamer dude to, well, some (presumably) rather hairy gangster's plaything... Once you are a part of the cycle there is no exit unless death or prison I suspect... T'is a shame for Yoda. So young and talented and now he's off to prison for an epic fail judgement call. I feel a wee bit bad for B4 but Gerard seems like a shameless, manipulating ass hat. No better than a criminal. But I don't know what their living condition is like so I'm just speculating. | ||
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