• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:30
CEST 04:30
KST 11:30
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments0[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes64BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch0Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast
Tourneys
SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
Soulkey on ASL S20 ASL20 General Discussion BW General Discussion ASL TICKET LIVE help! :D NaDa's Body
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group D [ASL20] Ro16 Group C Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Borderlands 3 Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
UK Politics Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
i'm really bored guys
Peanutsc
I <=> 9
KrillinFromwales
The Personality of a Spender…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2006 users

Community Power Rank v2: BlizzCon Edition - Page 7

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 10 Next All
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13980 Posts
October 20 2015 19:44 GMT
#121
lol max 5 more lists will be posted
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
Excellentee
Profile Joined June 2015
11 Posts
October 20 2015 19:54 GMT
#122
1. HerO
2. INnoVation
3. Byul
4. Classic
5. Maru
6. Zest
7. Rogue
8. Rain
9. Life
10. Dream
11. sOs
12. PartinG
13. Hydra
14. Fantasy
15. Lilbow
16. Polt
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 20 2015 20:34 GMT
#123
On October 21 2015 04:42 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I want MORE lists, because of this i will give you guys ONE more week to post here.


On October 21 2015 04:44 Cricketer12 wrote:
lol max 5 more lists will be posted


I hope not, but releasing the final list close before blizzcon starts is way better regardless
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
October 21 2015 22:21 GMT
#124
I can't do a proper rank cause I've been so disconnected of Starcraft in the last weeks...

And I don't want to do a joke rank like those who don't have Zest as #1
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28483 Posts
October 21 2015 22:31 GMT
#125
1. INnoVation
2. HerO
3. Byul
4. Maru
5. Rogue
6. Zest
7. Classic
8. sOs
9. Life
10. Rain
11. Dream
12. PartinG
13. Hydra
14. Fantasy
15. Lilbow
16. Polt
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
October 21 2015 23:10 GMT
#126
Place - Name - Points

1 - (T)INnoVation - 16
2 - (T)Maru 15
3 - (P)herO- 14
4 - (P)Classic - 13
5 - (Z)ByuL - 12
6 - (Z)Rogue - 11
7 - (P)Zest - 10
8 - (P)sOs - 9
9 - (P)Rain - 8
10 - (T)Dream - 7
11 - (T)FanTaSy 6
12 - (P)Lilbow - 5
13 - (Z)Life - 4
14 - (P)PartinG - 3
15 - (Z)Hydra - 2
16 - (T)Polt - 1



INnoVation has been the best player of the last months, possibly the best player of HotS overall.
Maru probably faces his biggest challenge in the first round and may very well fall to his weak TvZ. But in the next round he would have a weaker opponent and then a Protoss, two things he should manage. Due to the bracket and his TvP power I place him second.
herO won SSL. And has been a powerhouse of aggressive Protoss macro play, the kind of thing you need when you want to make it far in such a tournament. He also opens up with a weak opponent.
Classic has fallen off a little bit lately, but is still a championship quality player. But he faces ByuL first, who might be the second best player in the world.
ByuL might be the second best player in the world at the moment. But he doesn't win tournaments, plain and simple.
Rogue is one of my favorite players with flawless macro play, probably one of the hardest opponents to take a game of. But someone is going to cheese him out I'm sure.
If Zest somehow beats INnoVation he has a big chance to ride the whole thing home on his excellent PvP. But that depends a lot on how the bracket dice rolls for him.
Wacky sOs is going to be wacky to predict. So I place him in the middle, like the mean value of his luckbased playstyle.
Rain won a GSL. Still don't know how, given how mediocre he sometimes looks these days. But he absolutely has the championship-gen.
Sadly Dream fell off towards the end of the year. He is still a good player, but I doubt he has what it takes to win that thing.
This guy winning is a pure fantasy. Not gonna happen. But can take a game of anybody.
Lilbow, the foreign hope. He is not going to survive in the sharktank of Tier1 Koreans blocking each and every of his strategies, but he is just brave enough to take on the one or other opponent and crazy enough to beat slumping Life.
Life. And Blizzcon. Everything can happen. I wish. I really do.
PartinG has looked aweful lately. But maybe he has gotten better again.
To be honest, I'm not sure Hydra would make it into just one of the two Korean Premier Tournaments at the moment. But I wish him all the best, because I really like him.
Polt, Captain America. But the Liberator hasn't been invented yet.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 21 2015 23:13 GMT
#127
Damn that is how it's done! GJ :D
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
kottbullar
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia490 Posts
October 21 2015 23:42 GMT
#128
Personally wouldn't put Lilbow in top10, but people putting him dead last just because he's a foreigner reminds me of those guys who favor random no-name Korean toss vs Stephano during his prime.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 22 2015 00:15 GMT
#129
On October 22 2015 08:42 kottbullar wrote:
Personally wouldn't put Lilbow in top10, but people putting him dead last just because he's a foreigner reminds me of those guys who favor random no-name Korean toss vs Stephano during his prime.

To be fair, nearly every korean here is world-class.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Mistakes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1102 Posts
October 22 2015 00:24 GMT
#130
On October 22 2015 09:15 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 08:42 kottbullar wrote:
Personally wouldn't put Lilbow in top10, but people putting him dead last just because he's a foreigner reminds me of those guys who favor random no-name Korean toss vs Stephano during his prime.

To be fair, nearly every korean here is world-class.


Every Korean here IS world class. They made it to Blizzcon!
StarCraft | www.psistorm.com | www.twitter.com/MistakesSC | www.twitch.tv/MistakesSC | Seattle
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15979 Posts
October 22 2015 00:41 GMT
#131
1. INnoVation
2. herO
3. Maru
4. Zest
5. PartinG
6. sOs
7. Classic
8. Rain
9. Byul
10. Life
11. Dream
12. Rogue
13. Fantasy
14. Hydra
15. Polt
16. Lilbow
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7342 Posts
October 22 2015 01:16 GMT
#132
Innovation
herO
Classic
PartinG
Maru
Dream
Zest
sOs
Rain
Life
Rogue
Lilbow
FanTaSy
Polt
Hydra
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
October 22 2015 02:53 GMT
#133
1. Innovation
2. sOs
3. Maru
4. Byul
5. Zest
6. Classic
7. Rogue
8. Life
9. herO
10. Dream
11. Rain
12. Parting
13. Fantasy
14. Hydra
15. Lilbow
16. Polt

The top 10 players all seem like total contenders for 1st place. The bottom 6 are pretty debatable, and I'd be surprised to see any more than one of them in the Ro4. Innovation is obviously the most dominant right now. It gets pretty cloudy between 2nd and 6th though. sOs has looked really good lately, wrecking (almost) everyone in Proleague playoffs. So I'd put him as second, but he is sOs. Which means that he either looks really smart, or pretty derpy. Maru looked good minus a few matches and Byul had been pretty consistent up until real recently. Zest also has been looking very solid in the past few months. The rest of the players I have a real hard time placing where they are in terms of skill. I'm often impressed with Rogue, but he still loses to players like Maru and herO. Then there's Dream, who looked good in his latest PL match, but hasn't looked great other than that.

I think Innovation will reach the semi-finals at least.
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
October 22 2015 04:46 GMT
#134
innovation
classic
maru
herO
zest
rogue
rain
byul
sos
life
parting
maru G5L pls
theunabletable
Profile Joined October 2014
54 Posts
October 22 2015 06:29 GMT
#135
1. Innovation
2. herO
3. Byul
4. sOs
5. Zest
6. Classic
7. Maru

8. Dream
9. Rain
10. Life

11. Rogue

12. Fantasy
13. Parting
14. Lilbow
15. Hydra
16. Polt


Maybe Byul is too high? Maybe he should be below sOs and Zest? Maru maybe deserves as high as... like 4ish, but his dips always seem to last a while, and his recent form isn't as high. Classic is just solid, but, in a way, weirdly volatile. He could totally make the finals, or possibly lose early on, but I'd expect the sets to be close. I'd predict round of 4 again, but wouldn't be surprised wherever he ended up.

This tier isn't particularly ordered. Rain won a starleague, Life's in a slump but could still win blizzcon, and Dream's solid and looks okay after proleague.

Parting's form doesn't look that good, but he might be ahead of Fantasy. I dunno how Lilbow or Hydra should be ordered, but I think Lilbow has a better chance of winning his game vs Life I think, but idk.
Polt hasn't done well vs Koreans, playing LotV, etc.

Innovation, herO, sOs are favorites I think. Life could surprise and win, and I think Dream and Rogue otherwise have the best "dark horse" chances.
LoneYoShi
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-23 10:12:51
October 23 2015 09:04 GMT
#136
Can I update my ranking ? :D
I'll go with (grouped by skill level at the moment) :
  1. (T)INnoVation
  2. (P)sOs
  3. (P)herO

  4. (P)Zest
  5. (T)Maru
  6. (P)Classic
  7. (Z)ByuL

  8. (Z)Life

  9. (P)Rain
  10. (Z)Rogue
  11. (T)Dream

  12. (T)FanTaSy
  13. (P)PartinG

  14. (P)Lilbow
  15. (Z)Hydra
  16. (T)Polt


I stand by my predictions though !

On October 07 2015 18:04 LoneYoShi wrote:
Here's my ranking:

  1. (T)INnoVation
  2. (Z)ByuL
  3. (P)sOs
  4. (T)Maru
  5. (Z)Life
  6. (P)Zest
  7. (P)Classic
  8. (P)herO
  9. (P)PartinG
  10. (Z)Rogue
  11. (P)Rain
  12. (T)Dream
  13. (P)Lilbow
  14. (T)FanTaSy
  15. (Z)Hydra
  16. (T)Polt


It really isn't easy.

I'd rate the whole "Zest/Classic/herO" group as super close. I wish I could tie them all ^^
Life's current level is hard to evaluate as well, but Life is known to have time periods where he practices less and his results drop. And when he practices 110%, he goes God Mode. I suppose (and hope) that he practices hard for Blizzcon, so I put him above the 3 protoss group.
Another really close group of players are "Lilbow/FanTa/Hydra/Polt". They're the obvious lesser players at Blizzcon. But since I had to rank them (and I'm French), decisions were made ^^
Parting had a period of time where he played terrible but I believe he's training hard to regain his skill for Blizzcon, so I put him higher than what I initially thought.
I haven't seen much of Rain/Dream/Rogue lately, so I kinda used them as fillers...

Edit: So that was a power rank, now for the blizzcon predictions !
- Life will either go God Mode and make it to the finals or will be upset by Lilbow in ro16.
- INnoVation will not win. He's good enough, but too bland. He doesn't have the spark of magic required. I'd say a ro8 exit for him. I don't see Rain going far for the same reasons (ro16 or ro8 exit, I don't know who he plays in ro16).
- sOs is looking super hot and 100k$ are on the line. Top4 for him at least, probably even top2.
- I don't see it happening, but it would be an incredible redemption story if Byul could win. He got the skill , but I think he's gonna get eliminated in the ro8 (maybe even a ro16 loss depending on if he managed to go past the "second place again"-trauma or not).
- If we get to see TvZ's, bio will be played more than mech.
- Rogue will try something incredibly risky and stupid at least once. It'll work.
- Maru won't get ro4 due to his injuries preventing him from practicing/playing correctly.

[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24211 Posts
October 23 2015 10:09 GMT
#137
Can't wait for the final standings
LoneYoShi
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
October 23 2015 10:18 GMT
#138
Same here ! INno as #1 seems a given though, but I'm curious to see if there'll be any surprises.
ZertoN
Profile Joined February 2014
Germany214 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-23 12:29:29
October 23 2015 10:43 GMT
#139
1. inno
2. sos
3. maru
4. zest
5. herO
6. classic
7. byul
8. rain
9. rogue
10. dream
11. life
12. parting
13. fantasy
14. hydra
15. lilbow
16. polt
"I don't like games that i need to think a lot, i am not interested in those games." - TaeJa, 2016
ErrantKnight
Profile Joined November 2012
Switzerland186 Posts
October 23 2015 10:54 GMT
#140
1. FanTaSy
2. INnoVation
3. Byul
4. Rain
5. sOs
6. Maru
7. Classic
8. Rogue
9. herO[jOin]
10. Zest
11. Dream
12. Life
13. Parting
14. Hydra
15. Polt
16. Lilbow
"Quantity is quality by itself"
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 10 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 31m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft521
RuFF_SC2 131
Vindicta 34
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 712
Shuttle 589
Light 192
NaDa 30
ajuk12(nOOB) 19
Icarus 9
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm169
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K468
Fnx 395
PGG 119
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King40
Other Games
summit1g7261
JimRising 551
C9.Mang0320
Trikslyr58
Nina47
CosmosSc2 37
ViBE35
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH193
• davetesta18
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 17
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift4586
Other Games
• Scarra1188
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
7h 31m
Zoun vs Classic
Map Test Tournament
8h 31m
Korean StarCraft League
1d
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
1d 5h
RSL Revival
1d 7h
Reynor vs Cure
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Online Event
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
LiuLi Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-10
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.