• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:38
CEST 11:38
KST 18:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 1 - Final Week6[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0
Community News
Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed17Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll8Team TLMC #5 - Submission extension3Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation17$25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced7
StarCraft 2
General
Who will win EWC 2025? Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings
Tourneys
FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo)
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BW General Discussion Soulkey Muta Micro Map? [ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSL Xiamen International Invitational 2025 ACS Season 2 Qualifier Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Summer Games Done Quick 2025!
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 632 users

TheSandbox - Deliberate Practice Training Group - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Pirfiktshon
Profile Joined June 2013
United States1072 Posts
June 23 2015 17:35 GMT
#21
I joined yesterday just in the proving grounds it was quite the day. I had a lot of fun with JehL and DragonVsSoul. It seriously is a good place to just find people to talk about the game in a good light that isn't toxic, that you can't find easily anywhere else lol.

I like how the admins are watching the chat they do keep you in line and I've learned a lot from the short conversations I had with them ( errm them correcting me on my viewpoint on the game which they were 100% correct LOL)
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-23 22:08:14
June 23 2015 17:54 GMT
#22
I see, GM zerg willing to help. PM if you need any coach.

EDIT : I did apply!

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/339225/1/nDieTelecoM/ Here is my profile
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
June 23 2015 19:33 GMT
#23
On June 24 2015 01:14 Bojas wrote:
I think it's very interesting. As a SC2 player I've never been a fan of 1v1 ladder, I do most of my practicing in CGs. I'd like to join, but like many (most?) others I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to the concept of deliberate practice, so I doubt I could be of much use within the group.

Will there be any transparency to the general public about the ideas discussed within this group? That way everyone can learn from the ideas discussed within the group, especially from the coaching staff. I imagine the goal is to improve the method of practicing, you don't have to be a part of the group to learn from the group, if you could just read some of the inside-information of the group.


Well by definition you need practice partners for this to work.

So you can't readily just hop on ladder and replicate these methods.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
Pirfiktshon
Profile Joined June 2013
United States1072 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-23 21:06:09
June 23 2015 21:05 GMT
#24
Well by definition you need practice partners for this to work.

So you can't readily just hop on ladder and replicate these methods.


Very true which is Why in my games it has been lacking. I use to play a few of my friends over and over and over thats how I got from Gold to Dia in like 2 weeks LOL

So i'm happy for this I really hope I can make it to the sanbox
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10671 Posts
June 23 2015 22:08 GMT
#25
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/339225/1/nDieTelecoM/ Here is my battle.net profile, I would love to help with this project ~ Please contact me :D
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
June 23 2015 22:24 GMT
#26
Interesting!
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
June 24 2015 09:22 GMT
#27
On June 24 2015 04:33 DinoMight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2015 01:14 Bojas wrote:
I think it's very interesting. As a SC2 player I've never been a fan of 1v1 ladder, I do most of my practicing in CGs. I'd like to join, but like many (most?) others I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to the concept of deliberate practice, so I doubt I could be of much use within the group.

Will there be any transparency to the general public about the ideas discussed within this group? That way everyone can learn from the ideas discussed within the group, especially from the coaching staff. I imagine the goal is to improve the method of practicing, you don't have to be a part of the group to learn from the group, if you could just read some of the inside-information of the group.


Well by definition you need practice partners for this to work.

So you can't readily just hop on ladder and replicate these methods.

I'm not saying I would do that. However I am sure there are some things related to deliberate practice that are applicable in a more general sense.
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-24 13:15:42
June 24 2015 13:14 GMT
#28
This has been pretty awesome so far. Yesterday I:

-Practiced my PvT Oracle build vs a Terran practicing his mine opening.
-Practiced my PvZ Immortal/Zealot build against a Zerg going ling/Ultra
-Practiced my PvZ Phoenix build against the same player doing the same build

Got some good feedback from observers after all the games I played.

Overall it was a good experience.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
Pirfiktshon
Profile Joined June 2013
United States1072 Posts
June 24 2015 14:33 GMT
#29
Yea

Actually that was a hammer build opener. I generally pull that out as a one trick pony build. You defended the early game pressure flawlessly. GG DINO

I played a few TvZ which I'm going to do some hardcore practice in TvZ tonight. I have to agree with Dino so far the overall experience has just been awesome. It's just what Sc2 Needs a non-toxic environment to grow.
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-24 17:15:34
June 24 2015 17:12 GMT
#30
On June 24 2015 23:33 Pirfiktshon wrote:
Yea

Actually that was a hammer build opener. I generally pull that out as a one trick pony build. You defended the early game pressure flawlessly. GG DINO

I played a few TvZ which I'm going to do some hardcore practice in TvZ tonight. I have to agree with Dino so far the overall experience has just been awesome. It's just what Sc2 Needs a non-toxic environment to grow.


Yeah I got a little too cocky after holding off that first attack and killing your 3rd

GG man.

Edit-

Practicing all my PvZ builds against the same ling/ultra player was exactly the kind of thing I was hoping to get out of this by the way. Got the variables down to a minimum so that obs could give me the best possible feedback. Sometimes you try a build against someone and lose and then win the next game and think "well did I do it better or is he just bad?" You don't have this issue training against the same guy over and over.

Thanks all.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-24 23:05:39
June 24 2015 23:03 GMT
#31
A new section has been added to the OP:



Meet The Coaches




Robert Yip - Strength and Conditioning, Performance Psychology, Structure and Regimentation





Brandon "Synastren" Bailey - Cognitive Science, Attention and Multi-tasking, Information Processing





There are currently 8 Coach Videos, they will be added 1 per day at 12:00 noon ET until the final video is released on June 30th that night we will have a special interview with Lycan where everyone can ask questions of the group and various coaches. (We'll try to get as many of the coaches on in the interview as possible, but we can't promise perfect attendance from all 9)
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
OzCrescendo
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
Australia31 Posts
June 25 2015 00:08 GMT
#32
On June 24 2015 01:14 Bojas wrote:
I think it's very interesting. As a SC2 player I've never been a fan of 1v1 ladder, I do most of my practicing in CGs. I'd like to join, but like many (most?) others I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to the concept of deliberate practice, so I doubt I could be of much use within the group.

Will there be any transparency to the general public about the ideas discussed within this group? That way everyone can learn from the ideas discussed within the group, especially from the coaching staff. I imagine the goal is to improve the method of practicing, you don't have to be a part of the group to learn from the group, if you could just read some of the inside-information of the group.



I was watching JaKaTaK's stream yesterday as he moderated and discussed the Proving Grounds skype chat.
We got to see the interactions, what was being said, and how the chat worked.

That was about as open and transparent as you can get, in my opinion.
I certainly learned a lot about how the group operates, what is expected of members, and what is discouraged.



All three races are OP. That's the fun of the game! See https://twitter.com/x5_Crescendo for SEA SC2 news and fanboy gleetweets
sc2chronic
Profile Joined May 2012
United States777 Posts
June 25 2015 01:31 GMT
#33
can i join? maybe this one will be better than the 500 other ones before it..
terrible, terrible, damage
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
June 25 2015 11:49 GMT
#34
On June 25 2015 09:08 OzCrescendo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2015 01:14 Bojas wrote:
I think it's very interesting. As a SC2 player I've never been a fan of 1v1 ladder, I do most of my practicing in CGs. I'd like to join, but like many (most?) others I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to the concept of deliberate practice, so I doubt I could be of much use within the group.

Will there be any transparency to the general public about the ideas discussed within this group? That way everyone can learn from the ideas discussed within the group, especially from the coaching staff. I imagine the goal is to improve the method of practicing, you don't have to be a part of the group to learn from the group, if you could just read some of the inside-information of the group.



I was watching JaKaTaK's stream yesterday as he moderated and discussed the Proving Grounds skype chat.
We got to see the interactions, what was being said, and how the chat worked.

That was about as open and transparent as you can get, in my opinion.
I certainly learned a lot about how the group operates, what is expected of members, and what is discouraged.




I missed the stream can't find VODs anywhere.
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-25 16:14:57
June 25 2015 15:54 GMT
#35
On June 25 2015 20:49 Bojas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2015 09:08 OzCrescendo wrote:
On June 24 2015 01:14 Bojas wrote:
I think it's very interesting. As a SC2 player I've never been a fan of 1v1 ladder, I do most of my practicing in CGs. I'd like to join, but like many (most?) others I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to the concept of deliberate practice, so I doubt I could be of much use within the group.

Will there be any transparency to the general public about the ideas discussed within this group? That way everyone can learn from the ideas discussed within the group, especially from the coaching staff. I imagine the goal is to improve the method of practicing, you don't have to be a part of the group to learn from the group, if you could just read some of the inside-information of the group.



I was watching JaKaTaK's stream yesterday as he moderated and discussed the Proving Grounds skype chat.
We got to see the interactions, what was being said, and how the chat worked.

That was about as open and transparent as you can get, in my opinion.
I certainly learned a lot about how the group operates, what is expected of members, and what is discouraged.




I missed the stream can't find VODs anywhere.


Should be saving the VOSs automatically, but I couldn't manage to find it either. Streaming more moderation and answering questions now: twitch.tv/jakataktv


Edit: The next coach introduction video is out!




Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
Riquiz
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands402 Posts
June 25 2015 17:04 GMT
#36
I will def. sign up as soon as uni finishes, then I can prioritize sc2 a lot more ;3
Caster man does casting on yt/RiquizCasts
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
June 25 2015 20:50 GMT
#37
I recommend more people try to practice in this way. I got a few games in yesterday practicing my standard PvT oracle opener against Terran factory openers. Very specific things I wanted to practice.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
lastcraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom5 Posts
June 25 2015 20:54 GMT
#38
Hi Jak...

Are you behind on reviewing applications to join the sandbox? Mailed you a week ago, but no reply yet. Not even an auto responder.

yours, Marcus
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
June 25 2015 23:08 GMT
#39
I'm caught up to emails sent before 2pm ET today. If you have not gotten a response it is because I did not receive your email. Make sure you're sending it to jakataktv@gmail.com
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
lastcraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom5 Posts
June 26 2015 17:26 GMT
#40
Hi...

Damn you internet. Resending the mail and crossing my fingers.

yours, Marcus

p.s. my mail is marcus@lastcraft.com in case I languish in spam filters.
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 23m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 239
StarCraft: Brood War
BeSt 3282
Mini 696
Hyun 471
Larva 397
Soma 257
Dewaltoss 172
Barracks 139
Backho 103
Sharp 100
firebathero 68
[ Show more ]
ToSsGirL 56
sorry 38
Free 37
zelot 36
ajuk12(nOOB) 18
Bonyth 1
Britney 0
Sea 0
Dota 2
Gorgc1026
XcaliburYe548
League of Legends
JimRising 535
Super Smash Bros
Westballz56
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor164
Other Games
Happy380
Fuzer 219
SortOf114
DeMusliM27
Trikslyr26
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2732
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH275
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2177
League of Legends
• Stunt893
• Jankos731
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
23m
Epic.LAN
2h 23m
CSO Contender
7h 23m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d
Online Event
1d 6h
Esports World Cup
3 days
ByuN vs Astrea
Lambo vs HeRoMaRinE
Clem vs TBD
Solar vs Zoun
SHIN vs Reynor
Maru vs TriGGeR
herO vs Lancer
Cure vs ShoWTimE
Esports World Cup
4 days
Esports World Cup
5 days
Esports World Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Xiamen Invitational: ShowMatche
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

BSL 2v2 Season 3
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Xiamen Invitational
2025 ACS Season 2
Championship of Russia 2025
Underdog Cup #2
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.