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Greatest Players of All Time: Part 2 - Page 24

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Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
April 20 2015 19:22 GMT
#461
it's very nice of you to put MMA 6th, 5th, 4th, 3rd, 2nd and 1st.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-20 19:24:47
April 20 2015 19:24 GMT
#462
On April 21 2015 04:20 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 04:17 stuchiu wrote:
On April 20 2015 22:26 nimdil wrote:
On April 20 2015 22:01 The Harem King wrote:
Can we get 16-20 as well so we can see the write ups of sOs, Soulkey, PartinG, and Bomber! I don't know who would be 20 maybe Stephano or one of the hero's.

I don't think there is any alternative to Stephano here.


Stephano/herO/HerO/Puma/Hyun/Jaedong/Dear are all around the same level. You'd have to really look at everything.


Wow herO is actually that high? That's pretty surprising for me!


herO has been Top 10 P, cracking near top 5 P (or possibly in Top 5 P) for the latter half of 2012 (WoL). He fell off adjusting to HotS for all of 2013. Got 3 IEMS, runner up at IEM WC, Top 2 Kespa Cup, Top 4 Stockholm, Top 4 Code S.

He doesn't have the innovation of Stephano, but his refinement criteria is as good or better. In terms of years it's about the same as Stephano in more recent years. I'd have to measure everything else he did, but I wouldn't dismiss those 6 out of hand for Stephano as 20th.
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Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
April 20 2015 20:22 GMT
#463
lol at MMA over a 3 time GSL champion
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-20 20:27:23
April 20 2015 20:27 GMT
#464
On April 21 2015 05:22 Shinespark wrote:
lol at MMA over a 3 time GSL champion

One of them reached the Blizzcon finals last year while the other can't make it past qualifiers anymore. Staying power is kinda important aswell.
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IMMVPDRG
Profile Joined April 2015
1 Post
April 20 2015 21:36 GMT
#465
The top 5 should be:

5. MC
4. Bomber
3. Taeja
2. Life
1. MVP
IMLyte
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada714 Posts
April 20 2015 22:13 GMT
#466
Alot of people are bringing up Bomber as top 5, but I just don't see it. His accomplishments are dwarfed in the face of NesTea and MMA. What has he actually accomplished that makes him so great, other than his personality?

5.Polt
4.Taeja
3.MC
2.Life
1.Mvp
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19384 Posts
April 20 2015 23:19 GMT
#467
Clyde, alive, and Inca can take the top 3 in any order.
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Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
April 20 2015 23:27 GMT
#468
PartinG should have the third spot.

Mvp
Life
PartinG
MC
Seal
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
nozemsagogo
Profile Joined December 2014
8 Posts
April 20 2015 23:47 GMT
#469
mmmm im scared there wont be a boxer
nozemsagogo
Profile Joined December 2014
8 Posts
April 20 2015 23:48 GMT
#470
honestly taeja doesn't make this list for me
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19384 Posts
April 21 2015 00:28 GMT
#471
On April 21 2015 08:48 nozemsagogo wrote:
honestly taeja doesn't make this list for me

Find a longer wiki of achievements.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 21 2015 00:58 GMT
#472
On April 21 2015 09:28 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 08:48 nozemsagogo wrote:
honestly taeja doesn't make this list for me

Find a longer wiki of achievements.

quality of achievements > quantity of achievements
Taeja not on a top 15 list is ridiculous though, but top 5 is arguable imo
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cheekymonkey
Profile Joined January 2014
France1387 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 02:16:25
April 21 2015 02:11 GMT
#473
Really, Taeja top 5, and not Nestea. That doesn't sit well with me. Anyway, it's a great write-up nevertheless.

So, Parting, MC, Mvp, Taeja and Life must be the other players on the list. I can't imagine anything else. Or is Parting replaced with Soulkey? That would be horrendous. Sad to see so many legendary players left out of this list.

Could someone refresh my memory on what is meant by that Stephano's builds were nerfed to the ground, by the way?

EDIT: oh wait, Parting didn't make the list.. Soulkey neither. This is what the list ought to be like then:

5. Stephano
4. Taeja
3. MC
2. Life
1. Mvp

please
Zzzzzzzzzzzzz
Profile Joined April 2015
1 Post
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 07:09:46
April 21 2015 07:09 GMT
#474
5. Polt
4.Taeja
3.MC
2.Life
1.KA-B00M M v p
FaultyReDD
Profile Joined August 2012
25 Posts
April 21 2015 07:26 GMT
#475
MVP would be # 33, trust me i helped co write the list
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
April 21 2015 07:40 GMT
#476
On April 21 2015 11:11 cheekymonkey wrote:
Really, Taeja top 5, and not Nestea. That doesn't sit well with me. Anyway, it's a great write-up nevertheless.

So, Parting, MC, Mvp, Taeja and Life must be the other players on the list. I can't imagine anything else. Or is Parting replaced with Soulkey? That would be horrendous. Sad to see so many legendary players left out of this list.

Could someone refresh my memory on what is meant by that Stephano's builds were nerfed to the ground, by the way?

EDIT: oh wait, Parting didn't make the list.. Soulkey neither. This is what the list ought to be like then:

5. Stephano
4. Taeja
3. MC
2. Life
1. Mvp

please

Stephano is in contention for #20. It's gonna be Polt.
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-22 17:56:09
April 21 2015 07:46 GMT
#477
There will never be part 3. These two "parts" are just an elaborate setup tactically omitting sufficiently more than 5 players so that people can argue forever about how the fuck X did not make the final 5 without actually seeing a final 5 ever.

Mark my words in a couple of months

edit: so this was my 2k post? How fitting!
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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JunkkaGom
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)855 Posts
April 21 2015 08:03 GMT
#478
I shed tears reading Nestea's section. I won't lie. What a man.
I expect MVP, Life and Parting in top 5.
I always feel Parting doesn't get enough credit. He has been one of most consistent player in GSL, even more than MC.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 21 2015 08:15 GMT
#479
On April 21 2015 09:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 09:28 BisuDagger wrote:
On April 21 2015 08:48 nozemsagogo wrote:
honestly taeja doesn't make this list for me

Find a longer wiki of achievements.

quality of achievements > quantity of achievements
Taeja not on a top 15 list is ridiculous though, but top 5 is arguable imo


I wouldn't even say that. Spots 1 and 2 are clearly locked up by Life and Mvp. No argument whatsoever.

For spots 5-3 I'd say only MC, PartinG, MMA, and maybe Polt are competitive with Taeja.

- MC has the advantage of winning 2/3 gsl finals he's been in (something Taeja never did). He has a staggering wiki page and slightly better longevity than Taeja. Difference is, Taeja has tons of gold and MC has a truckload of silver. Not only that, Taeja has far better longevity as a top-tier player, MC has never been among top 5 Protoss post-HotS. Although, to MC's credit he's had far bigger impact on his race and he's proven to clearly be more successful in a preparation-based format. Taeja didn't really do well in WCS AM despite the weaker competition. I'd rank Taeja ahead of him, but he has the best chance of overtaking Taeja imo.

- PartinG has the edge in consistency (especially since he's mostly been in Korea) and innovation, but Taeja hit higher peaks and simply won more shit. Taeja has had more adversity to overcome in terms of balance and his wrists as well.

- MMA has a truckload of premiere championships, has proven to be much better in terms of preparation, and actually has Korean/WCS wins. Yet, he also has that 9-12 month period of being almost totally irrelevant. Taeja has no such period and has comparable longevity. Not to mention, some of Taeja's peaks were in Terran's darkest hour.

- Polt blows Taeja out of the water in WCS AM, but I think he only has a slight edge in Korea. He's a gsl champ and had numerous code S appearances but only one ro8+ finish besides the gsl win. Not to mention, most of those were in 2011 when Terran was op. Taeja oddly did his best in the gsl during the BL/infestor era and generally faced tougher competition even outside of balance. Taeja really holds the advantage in foreign events though. Even with his disappointing WCS AM appearances he still won or placed highly at far more tournaments abroad than Polt did.

All in all I think Taeja firmly holds #3.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
cheekymonkey
Profile Joined January 2014
France1387 Posts
April 21 2015 08:19 GMT
#480
I really want to read an entry on Parting.
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