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Paul "ReDeYe" Chaloner steps down from ESL, Joins Gfinity…

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KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
March 12 2015 02:29 GMT
#241
"I thought I destroyed my CC but it seemed like the only thing I destroyed was Idra's mentality."
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
March 12 2015 05:23 GMT
#242
Snute is good, however it suprises me the ammount of people that think snute is better than stephano? give me a break.

Hes good but..really? As good as Stephano? Hes not even as good as naniwa the way i see it, and believe me when i tell you that i do like snute, i just don't think he's the best forgeigner...

Now on topic, i really hope this works well por redeye, he's good at what he does.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12763 Posts
March 12 2015 05:34 GMT
#243
From sad news to interesting news
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Corvuuss
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Austria354 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-12 11:18:53
March 12 2015 09:36 GMT
#244
On March 12 2015 14:23 [Phantom] wrote:
Snute is good, however it suprises me the ammount of people that think snute is better than stephano? give me a break.

Hes good but..really? As good as Stephano? Hes not even as good as naniwa the way i see it, and believe me when i tell you that i do like snute, i just don't think he's the best forgeigner...

Now on topic, i really hope this works well por redeye, he's good at what he does.

If we go on with skill comparison (which is pretty darn stupid anyways) we should not compare skill with players from the past or former skill of players but instead compare their skill right now which obviously makes snute stronger than stephano IS RIGHT NOW (my point here)

Edit: In my opinion the competition also grew stronger which makes it even harder to compare those players
I am a slave of Golden from now on. Obey a supreme leader of StarCraft 2 or you get banned. I am really glad to be citizen of Democratic republic of Golden.
Cazimirbzh
Profile Joined February 2014
334 Posts
March 12 2015 12:14 GMT
#245
On March 12 2015 14:23 [Phantom] wrote:
Snute is good, however it suprises me the ammount of people that think snute is better than stephano? give me a break.

Hes good but..really? As good as Stephano? Hes not even as good as naniwa the way i see it, and believe me when i tell you that i do like snute, i just don't think he's the best forgeigner...

Now on topic, i really hope this works well por redeye, he's good at what he does.



Then who's the best foreigner in your opinion?

fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
March 12 2015 12:40 GMT
#246
Always liked redeye as a host, brought a level of professionalism to the stage other hosts/casters just don't have. Seeing him move to gfinity is real interesting.
Ex Zerg learning Terran. A bold move.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-12 12:41:32
March 12 2015 12:41 GMT
#247
Oops, wrong thread.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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NyxNax
Profile Joined March 2014
United States227 Posts
March 13 2015 04:50 GMT
#248
Ok so what does this mean now hes with Gfinity? Will he be casting SC2 still? Sorry I don't know a whole lot about Gfinity and what games they indulge in. I know I've seen the Gfinity sc2 tournaments but I'm guessing they're involved in other games. CS:GO ? Seems quite an interesting move, especially if he's still just casting SC2, and I wonder how much of it had to do with money? I will seriously miss Redeye on ESL and I don't know if its possible to fill his shoes even remotely. Along with age comes that respect and professionalism he brought to the table. Even for people watching for the first time he was someone you could instantly like and those are few and far between. Lots of new people to the scene take warming up to or have to go through the ringer before there accepted.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
March 13 2015 05:17 GMT
#249
On March 12 2015 18:36 Corvuuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2015 14:23 [Phantom] wrote:
Snute is good, however it suprises me the ammount of people that think snute is better than stephano? give me a break.

Hes good but..really? As good as Stephano? Hes not even as good as naniwa the way i see it, and believe me when i tell you that i do like snute, i just don't think he's the best forgeigner...

Now on topic, i really hope this works well por redeye, he's good at what he does.

If we go on with skill comparison (which is pretty darn stupid anyways) we should not compare skill with players from the past or former skill of players but instead compare their skill right now which obviously makes snute stronger than stephano IS RIGHT NOW (my point here)

Edit: In my opinion the competition also grew stronger which makes it even harder to compare those players


Thats the thing with comparisons, they are really hard to do objectively, however saying that you should compare their skill at the moment of the comparison is like the worse of all. If you'd go with your suggestion, then whatever amateur boxer you find on a gym would be better than muhammad ali.. So i think the most "objective" would be to compare both players when they were at their peak. And i think that stephano had a higher "peak" than Snute (at the moment, Snute can of course still get better). But yeah, as you said, making a comparison is a hard thing to do because there are a lot of situations that can lead up to certain results, however i didn't tought people said snute was this good, maybe I'm not giving him enough credit.

On March 12 2015 21:14 Cazimirbzh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2015 14:23 [Phantom] wrote:
Snute is good, however it suprises me the ammount of people that think snute is better than stephano? give me a break.

Hes good but..really? As good as Stephano? Hes not even as good as naniwa the way i see it, and believe me when i tell you that i do like snute, i just don't think he's the best forgeigner...

Now on topic, i really hope this works well por redeye, he's good at what he does.



Then who's the best foreigner in your opinion?



Right now, Snute proably, but overall, i still think Stephano was better.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5224 Posts
March 13 2015 06:23 GMT
#250
On March 13 2015 14:17 [Phantom] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2015 18:36 Corvuuss wrote:
On March 12 2015 14:23 [Phantom] wrote:
Snute is good, however it suprises me the ammount of people that think snute is better than stephano? give me a break.

Hes good but..really? As good as Stephano? Hes not even as good as naniwa the way i see it, and believe me when i tell you that i do like snute, i just don't think he's the best forgeigner...

Now on topic, i really hope this works well por redeye, he's good at what he does.

If we go on with skill comparison (which is pretty darn stupid anyways) we should not compare skill with players from the past or former skill of players but instead compare their skill right now which obviously makes snute stronger than stephano IS RIGHT NOW (my point here)

Edit: In my opinion the competition also grew stronger which makes it even harder to compare those players


Thats the thing with comparisons, they are really hard to do objectively, however saying that you should compare their skill at the moment of the comparison is like the worse of all. If you'd go with your suggestion, then whatever amateur boxer you find on a gym would be better than muhammad ali.. So i think the most "objective" would be to compare both players when they were at their peak. And i think that stephano had a higher "peak" than Snute (at the moment, Snute can of course still get better). But yeah, as you said, making a comparison is a hard thing to do because there are a lot of situations that can lead up to certain results, however i didn't tought people said snute was this good, maybe I'm not giving him enough credit.

Show nested quote +
On March 12 2015 21:14 Cazimirbzh wrote:
On March 12 2015 14:23 [Phantom] wrote:
Snute is good, however it suprises me the ammount of people that think snute is better than stephano? give me a break.

Hes good but..really? As good as Stephano? Hes not even as good as naniwa the way i see it, and believe me when i tell you that i do like snute, i just don't think he's the best forgeigner...

Now on topic, i really hope this works well por redeye, he's good at what he does.



Then who's the best foreigner in your opinion?



Right now, Snute proably, but overall, i still think Stephano was better.


It is going to be a long time I think before anyone touches Stephano. The way he came out, winning two big tournaments and defeating tons of good foreigners and 5 solid Koreans including MKP (when MKP was in his prime) is pretty amazing. And then of course he followed that up with more stellar performances like his win at NASL Season 3, going throug Hero, MC and Alicia.

Would have been an amazing career for even a Korean, easily the top performing foreigner.
Dumbledore
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden725 Posts
March 13 2015 06:29 GMT
#251
On March 12 2015 21:14 Cazimirbzh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2015 14:23 [Phantom] wrote:
Snute is good, however it suprises me the ammount of people that think snute is better than stephano? give me a break.

Hes good but..really? As good as Stephano? Hes not even as good as naniwa the way i see it, and believe me when i tell you that i do like snute, i just don't think he's the best forgeigner...

Now on topic, i really hope this works well por redeye, he's good at what he does.



Then who's the best foreigner in your opinion?



Poltu!!!
I think Naniwa should be seen as best foreigner at the moment tho.
Have a nice day ;)
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
March 13 2015 06:48 GMT
#252
On March 12 2015 21:40 fruity. wrote:
Always liked redeye as a host, brought a level of professionalism to the stage other hosts/casters just don't have. Seeing him move to gfinity is real interesting.

I agree. I've also thoroughly enjoyed his guide to being a broadcaster. He brings a lot of knowledge to their broadcast team and I can't help but think competition to put on the best (professional) "show" is a good thing for all.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
March 13 2015 07:47 GMT
#253
On March 13 2015 15:29 Dumbledore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2015 21:14 Cazimirbzh wrote:
On March 12 2015 14:23 [Phantom] wrote:
Snute is good, however it suprises me the ammount of people that think snute is better than stephano? give me a break.

Hes good but..really? As good as Stephano? Hes not even as good as naniwa the way i see it, and believe me when i tell you that i do like snute, i just don't think he's the best forgeigner...

Now on topic, i really hope this works well por redeye, he's good at what he does.



Then who's the best foreigner in your opinion?



Poltu!!!
I think Naniwa should be seen as best foreigner at the moment tho.


wtf

he didn't even qualify for wcs

not saying Naniwa is bad but how can you logically call him the best current foreigner?
maru lover forever
Cazimirbzh
Profile Joined February 2014
334 Posts
March 13 2015 15:38 GMT
#254
On March 13 2015 14:17 [Phantom] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2015 18:36 Corvuuss wrote:
On March 12 2015 14:23 [Phantom] wrote:
Snute is good, however it suprises me the ammount of people that think snute is better than stephano? give me a break.

Hes good but..really? As good as Stephano? Hes not even as good as naniwa the way i see it, and believe me when i tell you that i do like snute, i just don't think he's the best forgeigner...

Now on topic, i really hope this works well por redeye, he's good at what he does.

If we go on with skill comparison (which is pretty darn stupid anyways) we should not compare skill with players from the past or former skill of players but instead compare their skill right now which obviously makes snute stronger than stephano IS RIGHT NOW (my point here)

Edit: In my opinion the competition also grew stronger which makes it even harder to compare those players


Thats the thing with comparisons, they are really hard to do objectively, however saying that you should compare their skill at the moment of the comparison is like the worse of all. If you'd go with your suggestion, then whatever amateur boxer you find on a gym would be better than muhammad ali.. So i think the most "objective" would be to compare both players when they were at their peak. And i think that stephano had a higher "peak" than Snute (at the moment, Snute can of course still get better). But yeah, as you said, making a comparison is a hard thing to do because there are a lot of situations that can lead up to certain results, however i didn't tought people said snute was this good, maybe I'm not giving him enough credit.

Show nested quote +
On March 12 2015 21:14 Cazimirbzh wrote:
On March 12 2015 14:23 [Phantom] wrote:
Snute is good, however it suprises me the ammount of people that think snute is better than stephano? give me a break.

Hes good but..really? As good as Stephano? Hes not even as good as naniwa the way i see it, and believe me when i tell you that i do like snute, i just don't think he's the best forgeigner...

Now on topic, i really hope this works well por redeye, he's good at what he does.



Then who's the best foreigner in your opinion?



Right now, Snute proably, but overall, i still think Stephano was better.


I think this impression of higher peak comes from the insane number of tournaments in 2012(dead game?^^), the lack of "good" koreans going overseas(compared to now) and the lost memory of the zerg era.
If stephano was the best foreigner in 2012 and naniwa in 2013, snute was in 2014 and, hopefully will be the best of the best 2015 too.




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