EPTPaul "ReDeYe" Chaloner steps down from ESL, Joins Gfinity…
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KtJ
United States3514 Posts
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[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
Hes good but..really? As good as Stephano? Hes not even as good as naniwa the way i see it, and believe me when i tell you that i do like snute, i just don't think he's the best forgeigner... Now on topic, i really hope this works well por redeye, he's good at what he does. | ||
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ETisME
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Corvuuss
Austria354 Posts
On March 12 2015 14:23 [Phantom] wrote: Snute is good, however it suprises me the ammount of people that think snute is better than stephano? give me a break. Hes good but..really? As good as Stephano? Hes not even as good as naniwa the way i see it, and believe me when i tell you that i do like snute, i just don't think he's the best forgeigner... Now on topic, i really hope this works well por redeye, he's good at what he does. If we go on with skill comparison (which is pretty darn stupid anyways) we should not compare skill with players from the past or former skill of players but instead compare their skill right now which obviously makes snute stronger than stephano IS RIGHT NOW (my point here) Edit: In my opinion the competition also grew stronger which makes it even harder to compare those players | ||
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Cazimirbzh
334 Posts
On March 12 2015 14:23 [Phantom] wrote: Snute is good, however it suprises me the ammount of people that think snute is better than stephano? give me a break. Hes good but..really? As good as Stephano? Hes not even as good as naniwa the way i see it, and believe me when i tell you that i do like snute, i just don't think he's the best forgeigner... Now on topic, i really hope this works well por redeye, he's good at what he does. Then who's the best foreigner in your opinion? | ||
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fruity.
England1711 Posts
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
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NyxNax
United States227 Posts
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[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
On March 12 2015 18:36 Corvuuss wrote: If we go on with skill comparison (which is pretty darn stupid anyways) we should not compare skill with players from the past or former skill of players but instead compare their skill right now which obviously makes snute stronger than stephano IS RIGHT NOW (my point here) Edit: In my opinion the competition also grew stronger which makes it even harder to compare those players Thats the thing with comparisons, they are really hard to do objectively, however saying that you should compare their skill at the moment of the comparison is like the worse of all. If you'd go with your suggestion, then whatever amateur boxer you find on a gym would be better than muhammad ali.. So i think the most "objective" would be to compare both players when they were at their peak. And i think that stephano had a higher "peak" than Snute (at the moment, Snute can of course still get better). But yeah, as you said, making a comparison is a hard thing to do because there are a lot of situations that can lead up to certain results, however i didn't tought people said snute was this good, maybe I'm not giving him enough credit. On March 12 2015 21:14 Cazimirbzh wrote: Then who's the best foreigner in your opinion? Right now, Snute proably, but overall, i still think Stephano was better. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5219 Posts
On March 13 2015 14:17 [Phantom] wrote: Thats the thing with comparisons, they are really hard to do objectively, however saying that you should compare their skill at the moment of the comparison is like the worse of all. If you'd go with your suggestion, then whatever amateur boxer you find on a gym would be better than muhammad ali.. So i think the most "objective" would be to compare both players when they were at their peak. And i think that stephano had a higher "peak" than Snute (at the moment, Snute can of course still get better). But yeah, as you said, making a comparison is a hard thing to do because there are a lot of situations that can lead up to certain results, however i didn't tought people said snute was this good, maybe I'm not giving him enough credit. Right now, Snute proably, but overall, i still think Stephano was better. It is going to be a long time I think before anyone touches Stephano. The way he came out, winning two big tournaments and defeating tons of good foreigners and 5 solid Koreans including MKP (when MKP was in his prime) is pretty amazing. And then of course he followed that up with more stellar performances like his win at NASL Season 3, going throug Hero, MC and Alicia. Would have been an amazing career for even a Korean, easily the top performing foreigner. | ||
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Dumbledore
Sweden725 Posts
On March 12 2015 21:14 Cazimirbzh wrote: Then who's the best foreigner in your opinion? Poltu!!! I think Naniwa should be seen as best foreigner at the moment tho. | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On March 12 2015 21:40 fruity. wrote: Always liked redeye as a host, brought a level of professionalism to the stage other hosts/casters just don't have. Seeing him move to gfinity is real interesting. I agree. I've also thoroughly enjoyed his guide to being a broadcaster. He brings a lot of knowledge to their broadcast team and I can't help but think competition to put on the best (professional) "show" is a good thing for all. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On March 13 2015 15:29 Dumbledore wrote: Poltu!!! I think Naniwa should be seen as best foreigner at the moment tho. wtf he didn't even qualify for wcs not saying Naniwa is bad but how can you logically call him the best current foreigner? | ||
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Cazimirbzh
334 Posts
On March 13 2015 14:17 [Phantom] wrote: Thats the thing with comparisons, they are really hard to do objectively, however saying that you should compare their skill at the moment of the comparison is like the worse of all. If you'd go with your suggestion, then whatever amateur boxer you find on a gym would be better than muhammad ali.. So i think the most "objective" would be to compare both players when they were at their peak. And i think that stephano had a higher "peak" than Snute (at the moment, Snute can of course still get better). But yeah, as you said, making a comparison is a hard thing to do because there are a lot of situations that can lead up to certain results, however i didn't tought people said snute was this good, maybe I'm not giving him enough credit. Right now, Snute proably, but overall, i still think Stephano was better. I think this impression of higher peak comes from the insane number of tournaments in 2012(dead game?^^), the lack of "good" koreans going overseas(compared to now) and the lost memory of the zerg era. If stephano was the best foreigner in 2012 and naniwa in 2013, snute was in 2014 and, hopefully will be the best of the best 2015 too. | ||
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