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United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 12 2015 01:08 Cazimirbzh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 22:01 OtherWorld wrote:On March 11 2015 21:56 Corvuuss wrote:On March 11 2015 21:42 OtherWorld wrote:On March 11 2015 21:39 Cazimirbzh wrote:On March 11 2015 20:55 Serimek wrote:On March 11 2015 20:34 REyeM wrote:
The brits are taking over the world! <3 Gfinity <3 TCM But as far as SC2 is concerned, they'll never rule as players. France, however, is becoming the next best thing after Korea with PetitDrogo, Lilbow, MLorD and FireCake. (Take that from the Frogs Perfidious Albion  ) lmao.* Sweden, Finland or even Norway are so much ahead in terms of players compared to France. after Korea /Facepalm by the way, just for enlightenment, is there a uk player still performing ? (:p) Finland might be close to France, but Sweden and Norway? Please. And I guess BlinG is still performing? He had decent results last year. Well Lilbow and MLord are skillwise compareable with snute and TargA, Firecake isn't that good (if playing long gakes is not taken into account) and Drogo? He is also not that great of a player. Snute is arguably better than any French player currently, but Lilbow, MLord, FireCake and possibly Drogo are above TargA. And we are talking about 4 players for France, while only two for Norway. I love Eiki but he is not on the level of said French players, just like anyone else from the Norwegian scene. Sweden is basically Norway but weaker, and Finland has two very good players. Snute is better than any french player has ever been and by far, he could probably all-kill them, 1 at the top is always better than 4 average. Finland seems to be in a better shape than Sweden, Morrow has not yet find the correct gameplay for midmacro game and naniwa...well naniwa what else?  I dont know if welmu fixed his pvp but if he did, he could propably take them all except Mlord and Serral is on fire^^ But i believe french folks will be rising soon, the growth of ogaming can be a huge help for the french scene. I hope one day they'll be as good as Vasa, the greatest caster of the universe.
eh, stephano?
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yeah its pretty arguable between stephano and snute
I think that's pretty close actually but I would lean towards stephano
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On March 11 2015 22:31 KatatoniK wrote:
Gfinity is gonna be so good with both Robert Ohlen and Redeye part of the company. Hopefully they'll fill the void left by DH and boost the UK e-Sports scene. (EVENTS IN THE NORTHERN HALF THE COUNTRY PLS)
Sorry to disappoint, but you don't buy your own arena if you're planning on going on the road.
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I think Gfinity is great but i dont believe it will be great for the sc2 scene. The UK scene for sc2 is practically non existent. We have a handful of players, no more. But it will be great to have a huge esport organisation in the uk anyway, best of luck to redeye.
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He was a good announcer and really enjoyed his hosting style. We will have to wait how it plays out.
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On March 12 2015 02:05 travis wrote:yeah its pretty arguable between stephano and snute I think that's pretty close actually but I would lean towards stephano
i think they have the same prize list, however every time they met, snute won^^
stats
Also, snute seems in a really good mental state lately which is hard at his level of play ( stephano could not managed it :S) and hopefully will be on the 2015 wcs finals.
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excellent pick from Gfinity
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Wow tactical move for gfinity, very nice!!! So glad to see this ended well for Paul
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Kerence
Sweden1817 Posts
I'll miss him when watching ESL-events, he's so good at what he does.
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On March 12 2015 07:46 Serimek wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2015 04:18 Cazimirbzh wrote:On March 12 2015 02:05 travis wrote:yeah its pretty arguable between stephano and snute I think that's pretty close actually but I would lean towards stephano i think they have the same prize list, however every time they met, snute won^^ statsAlso, snute seems in a really good mental state lately which is hard at his level of play ( stephano could not managed it :S) and hopefully will be on the 2015 wcs finals. Stephano won more than Snute. Almost 110.000 $.
prize money doesn't say anything about skill...
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On March 12 2015 07:47 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2015 07:46 Serimek wrote:On March 12 2015 04:18 Cazimirbzh wrote:On March 12 2015 02:05 travis wrote:yeah its pretty arguable between stephano and snute I think that's pretty close actually but I would lean towards stephano i think they have the same prize list, however every time they met, snute won^^ statsAlso, snute seems in a really good mental state lately which is hard at his level of play ( stephano could not managed it :S) and hopefully will be on the 2015 wcs finals. Stephano won more than Snute. Almost 110.000 $. prize money doesn't say anything about skill...
My bad. I misread his post actually.
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Northern Ireland27479 Posts
Stephano was a stronger player relative to the playerbase than Snute has really ever been, although Snute wasn't at the same level in that era as he is now. However could Stephano have done as well in the post-Kespa era as Snute has?
Both hypotheticals of course, let's just enjoy probably the two best foreigners of their respective eras (Y)
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On March 12 2015 01:08 Cazimirbzh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 22:01 OtherWorld wrote:On March 11 2015 21:56 Corvuuss wrote:On March 11 2015 21:42 OtherWorld wrote:On March 11 2015 21:39 Cazimirbzh wrote:On March 11 2015 20:55 Serimek wrote:On March 11 2015 20:34 REyeM wrote:
The brits are taking over the world! <3 Gfinity <3 TCM But as far as SC2 is concerned, they'll never rule as players. France, however, is becoming the next best thing after Korea with PetitDrogo, Lilbow, MLorD and FireCake. (Take that from the Frogs Perfidious Albion ) lmao.* Sweden, Finland or even Norway are so much ahead in terms of players compared to France. after Korea /Facepalm by the way, just for enlightenment, is there a uk player still performing ? (:p) Finland might be close to France, but Sweden and Norway? Please. And I guess BlinG is still performing? He had decent results last year. Well Lilbow and MLord are skillwise compareable with snute and TargA, Firecake isn't that good (if playing long gakes is not taken into account) and Drogo? He is also not that great of a player. Snute is arguably better than any French player currently, but Lilbow, MLord, FireCake and possibly Drogo are above TargA. And we are talking about 4 players for France, while only two for Norway. I love Eiki but he is not on the level of said French players, just like anyone else from the Norwegian scene. Sweden is basically Norway but weaker, and Finland has two very good players. Snute is better than any french player has ever been and by far, he could probably all-kill them, 1 at the top is always better than 4 average. Finland seems to be in a better shape than Sweden, Morrow has not yet find the correct gameplay for midmacro game and naniwa...well naniwa what else? I dont know if welmu fixed his pvp but if he did, he could propably take them all except Mlord and Serral is on fire^^ But i believe french folks will be rising soon, the growth of ogaming can be a huge help for the french scene. I hope one day they'll be as good as Vasa, the greatest caster of the universe.
You havent been around long hmm ? Stephano does that ring a bell ?
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On March 12 2015 07:51 Wombat_NI wrote:
Stephano was a stronger player relative to the playerbase than Snute has really ever been, although Snute wasn't at the same level in that era as he is now. However could Stephano have done as well in the post-Kespa era as Snute has?
Both hypotheticals of course, let's just enjoy probably the two best foreigners of their respective eras (Y)
indeed the broodlord-infestor era ... i am kidding ( or i am? :p )
I dont really understand your first statement. Snute slowly rose to be the best foreigner at the moment, same as stephano was. Also I believe the skill level has increased considerably over the last couple of years with, as you mentionned it, yeaa kespa.
Wait untill the end of the year and we'll continue this conversation.If Snute manage to qualify for wcs finals, he'll have earn the title of best foreigner of sc2.
For me, they have equal stats and achievements and i have faith that Snute'll perform at a higher level really soon .
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Redeye is great. I always enjoyed him.
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Northern Ireland27479 Posts
In that Stephano was winning or placing very high in tournaments consistently that had great Korean lineups, something no other foreigner has really done. Stephano was among the favourites for tournaments rather than 'He might make the Ro8 with good bracket luck'
Snute of today transplanted to that era would likely be a similar monster but it's hard to compare them for the reasons I outlined earlier. They're quite similar too, both mechanically sound but also strategically intelligent and a bit ahead of the curve.
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Will the Red Eye still be at IEM?
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On March 12 2015 10:02 Wombat_NI wrote:
In that Stephano was winning or placing very high in tournaments consistently that had great Korean lineups, something no other foreigner has really done. Stephano was among the favourites for tournaments rather than 'He might make the Ro8 with good bracket luck'
Snute of today transplanted to that era would likely be a similar monster but it's hard to compare them for the reasons I outlined earlier. They're quite similar too, both mechanically sound but also strategically intelligent and a bit ahead of the curve.
Indeed, every time i watch a tournament with snute in it, easy to bet he'll be in Ro8.
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