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[Code S] Ro16 Grp A: A Tale of Two Robots - S1 2015 - Page 2

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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
February 11 2015 02:47 GMT
#21
On February 11 2015 11:43 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 11:36 Apoteosis wrote:
Why TL writers always overestimate Innovation and underestimate MMA ?

I can't recall a single preview against Inno since the start of HoTS...

MMA and Dark to advance here.


dat win rate

http://aligulac.com/players/48/results/?after=&before=&event=&race=ptzr&country=KR&bestof=all&offline=both&game=HotS&op=

12/24/2014 INnoVation KR T 2–3 P KR Stats'

fucking scrub
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
February 11 2015 02:58 GMT
#22
On February 11 2015 11:43 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 11:40 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On February 11 2015 11:36 Apoteosis wrote:
Why TL writers always overestimate Innovation and underestimate MMA ?

I can't recall a single preview against Inno since the start of HoTS...

MMA and Dark to advance here.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/426481-wcs-s2-finals-innovation-questions-to-answer

one of the most incredible articles on TL well done zeal



My favourite part about it is that Zealously predicted duckdeok to beat INno... which obviously never actually took place since INno played Naniwa in the loser's match.

Blizzcon was a different story...
WriterForm is temporary, MMA is permanent || http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/508630-article-archive
Apoteosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile820 Posts
February 11 2015 02:59 GMT
#23
On February 11 2015 11:40 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 11:36 Apoteosis wrote:
Why TL writers always overestimate Innovation and underestimate MMA ?

I can't recall a single preview against Inno since the start of HoTS...

MMA and Dark to advance here.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/426481-wcs-s2-finals-innovation-questions-to-answer


Didn't recall that, thanks.

Anyways, the exception makes the rule.
Life won like 200k and didn't hire a proper criminal lawyer.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 11 2015 02:59 GMT
#24
On February 11 2015 11:47 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 11:43 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On February 11 2015 11:36 Apoteosis wrote:
Why TL writers always overestimate Innovation and underestimate MMA ?

I can't recall a single preview against Inno since the start of HoTS...

MMA and Dark to advance here.


dat win rate

http://aligulac.com/players/48/results/?after=&before=&event=&race=ptzr&country=KR&bestof=all&offline=both&game=HotS&op=

12/24/2014 INnoVation KR T 2–3 P KR Stats'

fucking scrub


09/17/2014 INnoVation KR T 3–0 Z KR DongRaeGu
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
caznitch
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada645 Posts
February 11 2015 03:03 GMT
#25
Small suggestion for those of us (myself especially) who are inept at finding out when these matches are going to take place: list the T - minus time for the match?

That said, does anyone know when the group is playing?
why?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 11 2015 03:06 GMT
#26
On February 11 2015 12:03 caznitch wrote:
Small suggestion for those of us (myself especially) who are inept at finding out when these matches are going to take place: list the T - minus time for the match?

That said, does anyone know when the group is playing?


6hrs and 24 min from this post.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Code_S#Group_Stage_.231_.28Ro16.29
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
February 11 2015 03:06 GMT
#27
On February 11 2015 12:03 caznitch wrote:
Small suggestion for those of us (myself especially) who are inept at finding out when these matches are going to take place: list the T - minus time for the match?

That said, does anyone know when the group is playing?


It's going to be at 6.30 Korean time (or approximately 6 1/2 hours from now)

A good way to check is to go on liquipedia (follow the link in the OP) and it lists all the times for the groups / games.
Click on the small i button to expand it for playoff matches for more info
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Code_S#Group_Stage_.231_.28Ro16.29

WriterForm is temporary, MMA is permanent || http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/508630-article-archive
banjoetheredskin
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States744 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 03:08:49
February 11 2015 03:08 GMT
#28
On February 11 2015 12:03 caznitch wrote:
Small suggestion for those of us (myself especially) who are inept at finding out when these matches are going to take place: list the T - minus time for the match?

That said, does anyone know when the group is playing?

well T-minus is always linked in the liquipedia page which is in the upper right of the article. 18:30 KST, or 4:30 EST

edit: damnit munch and miniwheat
Writer#1 CJ fan | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/508947-wcs-dreamhack-austin-interviews
TerranHwaiting
Profile Joined December 2014
Korea (North)179 Posts
February 11 2015 03:10 GMT
#29
Have fun watching it in 240p! :D
Adept
Profile Joined December 2009
United States472 Posts
February 11 2015 03:30 GMT
#30
Should be a pretty awesome group!
"HSC casting is essentially an LR thread read aloud." -ThomasjServo
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
February 11 2015 03:32 GMT
#31
On February 11 2015 12:10 TerranHwaiting wrote:
Have fun watching it in 240p! :D

If you squint while watching it, it's resolution doubles!
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
February 11 2015 03:33 GMT
#32
On February 11 2015 12:10 TerranHwaiting wrote:
Have fun watching it in 240p! :D


Or just get a flippin subscription
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 11 2015 03:35 GMT
#33
On February 11 2015 11:36 Apoteosis wrote:
Why TL writers always overestimate Innovation and underestimate MMA ?

I can't recall a single preview against Inno since the start of HoTS...

MMA and Dark to advance here.

Because picking Inno is safe. He's pretty good yo

I don't think TL writers underestimate MMA all that much but he is an underdog in this group
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
February 11 2015 03:41 GMT
#34
On February 11 2015 12:35 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 11:36 Apoteosis wrote:
Why TL writers always overestimate Innovation and underestimate MMA ?

I can't recall a single preview against Inno since the start of HoTS...

MMA and Dark to advance here.

Because picking Inno is safe. He's pretty good yo

I don't think TL writers underestimate MMA all that much but he is an underdog in this group

them predictions
WriterForm is temporary, MMA is permanent || http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/508630-article-archive
Jjing
Profile Joined February 2015
China13 Posts
February 11 2015 03:57 GMT
#35
On February 11 2015 11:43 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 11:36 Apoteosis wrote:
Why TL writers always overestimate Innovation and underestimate MMA ?

I can't recall a single preview against Inno since the start of HoTS...

MMA and Dark to advance here.


dat win rate

http://aligulac.com/players/48/results/?after=&before=&event=&race=ptzr&country=KR&bestof=all&offline=both&game=HotS&op=

vs.



http://aligulac.com/players/28/results/?after=&before=&event=&race=ptzr&country=KR&bestof=all&offline=both&game=HotS&op=

==

Although I am very intrigued to see how MMA does tonight. I got Bogus/Dark coming out of this but MMA making it wouldn't be too surprising. Deep down I think MMA still has potential to go deep and his skills have simply been degrading outside Korea. He could rise to the occasion in this group. His pick of Dark is very perplexing given how bad he got owned by him in the group stage. Perhaps he'll be more competitive this time around.



It was not MMA's willing to pick Dark. Inno asked him to do that.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 11 2015 04:13 GMT
#36
On February 11 2015 11:43 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 11:40 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On February 11 2015 11:36 Apoteosis wrote:
Why TL writers always overestimate Innovation and underestimate MMA ?

I can't recall a single preview against Inno since the start of HoTS...

MMA and Dark to advance here.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/426481-wcs-s2-finals-innovation-questions-to-answer

one of the most incredible articles on TL well done zeal

He rode that prediction result for months
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
February 11 2015 04:33 GMT
#37
On February 11 2015 11:59 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 11:47 Cricketer12 wrote:
On February 11 2015 11:43 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On February 11 2015 11:36 Apoteosis wrote:
Why TL writers always overestimate Innovation and underestimate MMA ?

I can't recall a single preview against Inno since the start of HoTS...

MMA and Dark to advance here.


dat win rate

http://aligulac.com/players/48/results/?after=&before=&event=&race=ptzr&country=KR&bestof=all&offline=both&game=HotS&op=

12/24/2014 INnoVation KR T 2–3 P KR Stats'

fucking scrub


09/17/2014 INnoVation KR T 3–0 Z KR DongRaeGu

No one remembers the 2013 games
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caznitch
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada645 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 05:07:49
February 11 2015 05:06 GMT
#38
Thanks for the help everyone! I knew it was somewhere... I'm 28 which is pretty much an octogenarian in e-sports years.

EDIT: Go anyone but Terminator (who I blame for Taeja's absence)
why?
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 11 2015 05:14 GMT
#39
Not sure if I can watch this live yet D:
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 11 2015 05:57 GMT
#40
MMA will surprise some people.
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