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[SPL'15] Round 1 Week 4 Lineups - Page 5

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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2972 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 01:08:35
January 10 2015 01:07 GMT
#81
Finally Flash not playing a TvZ. He may have a decent chance to win this time. But wouldn't be too surprised if Bravo played a really good sniper build against him. Least Flash and TY can just practice against each other a lot since they both got TvT's for that week. Interesting Action is being put in, Stats seemed to be one of the better players in KT atm too. If anything would have been more proper to see Action over Flash heh.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
dyDrawer
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada438 Posts
January 10 2015 02:47 GMT
#82
This is actually the first time this season Samsung played some one they fielded the week before...
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AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
January 10 2015 02:50 GMT
#83
Ummm Dear will take Action apart piece by piece, you all know this...the Dear One is back!~~
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
January 10 2015 05:43 GMT
#84
Actually, what is wrong with Flash TvZ? Did he do something wrong? Or his understanding is not good enough..

Maybe his baneling micro?
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 07:14:22
January 10 2015 07:06 GMT
#85
On January 10 2015 14:43 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Actually, what is wrong with Flash TvZ? Did he do something wrong? Or his understanding is not good enough..

Maybe his baneling micro?


His micro is usually weak. He doesn't seem to have the crisp multitasking of other top-tier Terrans when it comes to drop harass. Despite mech probably being his strongest brand of TvZ, he hasn't been using it at all lately. Yet, for a bio player he's unusually passive.

The last one is probably the biggest hole in his play. He just seems to give the zerg way too much breathing room. His recent SPL game against Losira is a good example of this.
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shamas4470
Profile Joined January 2015
United States1 Post
January 10 2015 07:21 GMT
#86
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Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 08:52:00
January 10 2015 08:35 GMT
#87
On January 10 2015 16:06 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 14:43 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Actually, what is wrong with Flash TvZ? Did he do something wrong? Or his understanding is not good enough..

Maybe his baneling micro?


His micro is usually weak. He doesn't seem to have the crisp multitasking of other top-tier Terrans when it comes to drop harass. Despite mech probably being his strongest brand of TvZ, he hasn't been using it at all lately. Yet, for a bio player he's unusually passive.

The last one is probably the biggest hole in his play. He just seems to give the zerg way too much breathing room. His recent SPL game against Losira is a good example of this.


He is a little passive, but I think Flash's biggest problem in TvZ recently is failure to adjust his composition for Zerg tech switches. He just picks a comp and keeps building it, so you end up with games where the Zerg is going mass muta and he has no thors, or the Zerg is going mass bane and he has no mines, etc.

Edit: I wonder how much this has to do with lack of practice partners. The best Zerg on KT is Action, who has shown that he's a capable SPL 5th man but never has any success in individual leagues and is really not on par with the top Zergs Flash is playing against. Unless he has access to Soulkey, most of the top Zergs are on competing SPL teams and probably won't practice with him.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 10 2015 08:48 GMT
#88
Are the people in charge of FPL on strike? Why is the trading still closed?
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Liman
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia681 Posts
January 10 2015 08:53 GMT
#89
On January 10 2015 17:48 OtherWorld wrote:
Are the people in charge of FPL on strike? Why is the trading still closed?

I still haven't got all of points/anti points from round 3.
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Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
January 10 2015 08:57 GMT
#90
On January 10 2015 17:53 Liman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 17:48 OtherWorld wrote:
Are the people in charge of FPL on strike? Why is the trading still closed?

I still haven't got all of points/anti points from round 3.


You should have. I thought the same but at least in my case I was looking at just the "W3" column in Detailed Team whereas you need to look at a combination of the "W3" column and the "Day" column which (I guess) shows the results from the latest play date? Once I looked at both combined they were all there.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37055 Posts
January 10 2015 08:58 GMT
#91
B4 decided to join ByuN.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 10 2015 09:56 GMT
#92
On January 10 2015 14:43 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Actually, what is wrong with Flash TvZ? Did he do something wrong? Or his understanding is not good enough..

Maybe his baneling micro?

The game plan he used against LosirA and Dark just doesn't work against solid Zergs who rush to 90 drones against any type of biomech play, and win from there. We actually don't know much about Flash's TvZ these days since he didn't play standard.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 10 2015 09:59 GMT
#93
On January 10 2015 17:53 Liman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 17:48 OtherWorld wrote:
Are the people in charge of FPL on strike? Why is the trading still closed?

I still haven't got all of points/anti points from round 3.

Hmm strange, I have them.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
January 10 2015 10:34 GMT
#94
lichter get your lazy ass moving.
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KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
January 10 2015 11:29 GMT
#95
Why no Rogue in 2 weeks? He is doing very well recently.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
January 10 2015 11:31 GMT
#96
On January 10 2015 17:48 OtherWorld wrote:
Are the people in charge of FPL on strike? Why is the trading still closed?

Pls open it already;; Last week we could trade a few hours after the lineups were up, which was early friday or so. Gogo TL!
KatatoniK
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom978 Posts
January 10 2015 14:18 GMT
#97
On January 10 2015 20:29 KingAlphard wrote:
Why no Rogue in 2 weeks? He is doing very well recently.


Last week Rogue wasn't in the line-up so he could practice for his GSL group. Perhaps this week they're just letting him have a break or something.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 10 2015 14:23 GMT
#98
Yay
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sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
January 10 2015 14:50 GMT
#99
Maru vs. Life hype!
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
January 10 2015 19:22 GMT
#100
On January 10 2015 23:18 KatatoniK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 20:29 KingAlphard wrote:
Why no Rogue in 2 weeks? He is doing very well recently.


Last week Rogue wasn't in the line-up so he could practice for his GSL group. Perhaps this week they're just letting him have a break or something.

Rogue was in both GSL and S2SL
thats probably the reason
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