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Korea (South)11232 Posts
The matchups and match dates have been published by GOM for CODE S.
It will begin on 7th January 2015 in the GOMeXP Studio in Gangnam
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Source: Inven
Poll: Group of Death?Group B (MarineKing, Soulkey, Yoda, San) (128) 34% Group C (Gumiho, Life, Rain, Panic) (128) 34% Group E (Maru, Hack, First, Parting) (34) 9% Group F (Taeja, herO, Terminator, Curious) (25) 7% Group D (TY, Bomber, Dream, YongHwa) (17) 5% Group H (Heart, Solar, Super, Innovation) (16) 4% Group G (Dark, MMA, Seed, Dear) (14) 4% Group A (MC, Penguin, Rogue, Fantasy) (10) 3% 372 total votes Your vote: Group of Death? (Vote): Group A (MC, Penguin, Rogue, Fantasy)
(Vote): Group B (MarineKing, Soulkey, Yoda, San)
(Vote): Group C (Gumiho, Life, Rain, Panic)
(Vote): Group D (TY, Bomber, Dream, YongHwa)
(Vote): Group E (Maru, Hack, First, Parting)
(Vote): Group F (Taeja, herO, Terminator, Curious)
(Vote): Group G (Dark, MMA, Seed, Dear)
(Vote): Group H (Heart, Solar, Super, Innovation)
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YoDa and MarineKing in same the group... Who am I gonna cheer for? 
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Life possibly against Gumiho. Gawd no, Gumi's TvZ style is annoying. ~_~
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This is surprisingly "weak". Cant find a really stacked group and there quite some players which i dont consider that strong. Possibility for crazy stacked ro16 still exists though. Vroup of death is almost always fun
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easy groups for Parting, Dark and Soulkey, hope Life can make it through as well
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 TaeJa in the same group as  Terminator, hehe
Group C is "the group of death"
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FINALLY!
Mostly good ro32 groups.
- MC is totally coming out of the first group.
- Might lose Soulkey early tbh :/
- Group C = group of death
- Bomber might be in trouble with his recent TvT....less ofc Dream is still awful in that matchup. Doubt Yonghwa will do much.
- E is pretty nice. Don't sleep on First, he's getting good again. Hack is also slightly underrated.
- Taeja will crush Terminator for revenge. herO tops the group.
- Not much to say on G. Dark rekts it I guess.
- Bogus takes first in H. Maybe Heart can upset Solar in TvZ? Unlikely though.
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Best grand final possible :
Life or Solar vs Maru or MarineKing or FanTaSy or TY
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These groups feel a bit weak
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On December 24 2014 18:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
FINALLY!
Mostly good ro32 groups.
- MC is totally coming out of the first group.
Nah he is not, Rogue and Fantasy imo
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On December 24 2014 18:23 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2014 18:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
FINALLY!
Mostly good ro32 groups.
- MC is totally coming out of the first group.
Nah he is not, Rogue and Fantasy imo
Get out.
MC is 2-basing their asses into oblivion and doing a good ol' ceremony to top it off.
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On December 24 2014 18:24 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2014 18:23 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 24 2014 18:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
FINALLY!
Mostly good ro32 groups.
- MC is totally coming out of the first group.
Nah he is not, Rogue and Fantasy imo Get out. MC is 2-basing their asses into oblivion and doing a good ol' ceremony to top it off.
You have to let it go, no matter how much you want it the old times won't come back.
Nestea and Mvp are already irrelevant, MC is next
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On December 24 2014 18:24 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2014 18:23 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 24 2014 18:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
FINALLY!
Mostly good ro32 groups.
- MC is totally coming out of the first group.
Nah he is not, Rogue and Fantasy imo Get out. MC is 2-basing their asses into oblivion and doing a good ol' ceremony to top it off.
MC has a around a 40% win rate vs Koreans. I seriously doubt he will go through.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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On December 24 2014 18:36 Lorning wrote:
Good group for YoDa
Who's your favourite in order? YoDa, MVPMK or Maru?
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These predictions are based on the assumption that the next season will use the Season 3 map pool instead of the one currently in progress.
A: Rogue is on the upswing right now, and Penguin's still an unknown, so I assume it's gonna be a decider between Fantasy and MC. As much as my instinct says to go Fantasy, there's just something about a large stage that tells me it's time to show those "KR Koreans" who's boss.
B: For the life of me, I can't see a way that San falls out here. The second spot COULD go to MarineKing, but Soulkey is looking to be in good shape again, and I give him the edge.
C: Aww, the Rain had to come and ruin our picnic. Rain, Life, and Gumiho are all powerhouses right now, but I think it's gonna be Gumiho coming up short. Life has performed well against Terran lately and has Gumiho's recent TvZ loss to Jaedong to study, and Rain went through Terrans exclusively to make it into Code S.
D: Well, YongHwa beat a good amount of Terrans in the qualifier, and he only has the one matchup to prepare for, so you have to assume...HAHAHA, no. It's Code S Ro32, he's going down in flames. This is an easy TY-Bomber group (I say TY first because of Bomber's loss to Yoda in Proleague.)
E: We can throw Hack out straight away. Just not on that level. It's easy to do the same to First, and I don't think he'll advance, but Parting shouldn't be spending too long preparing his ceremonies just yet, because First showed over the past year that if he gets a chance to play, he isn't gonna get rolled by anyone.
F: They seriously gave Terminator another go at Taeja. Amazing. Had I not seen SSL Challenger, I'd say this is beyond simple: herO and Taeja, in that order. But when Jin Air Protosses have time to prepare for Taeja...nah, it won't happen twice. Right?
G: Seed, I love ya, but this will just not be your day. Dark and Dear have both already shown that they're in excellent shape, so the only question is MMA. His TvZ results since coming back to KR competition include a loss to TerrorPrime and a 2-1 against Pet, so Dark moves on. And his TvP included a 3-3 victory against GungFuBanda, so Dear would have to move on too. Sorry MMA, but you gotta prove it.
H: I can't believe I'm saying this in a Ro32 group, but Solar's dead in the water. Innovation is Innovation, Heart is a TvZ monster, and Super can't be relied on to give Solar perfect bracket luck. So unless Heart's TvP is quite a bit off form, this should be an Innovation-Heart group.
So that's a predicted Ro16 of Rogue, MC, San, Soulkey, Rain, Life, TY, Bomber, Maru, Parting, herO, Taeja, Dark, Dear, Innovation, and Heart. Sounds like fun.
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On December 24 2014 18:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
- Bogus takes first in H. Maybe Heart can upset Solar in TvZ? Unlikely though.
I doubt that Inno can take a game over Solar...
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On December 24 2014 18:39 thantritue wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2014 18:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
- Bogus takes first in H. Maybe Heart can upset Solar in TvZ? Unlikely though. I doubt that Inno can take a game over Solar...
Solar was looking preeeeeeety shaky against Dream.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On December 24 2014 18:37 ANLProbe wrote:Who's your favourite in order? YoDa, MVPMK or Maru?
I like them all, but I'll cheer for YoDa the most cause I'm a Prime fan
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Group B is the Group of Death, imo. B is a bit stronger than C or D are.
Predictions:
A - Rogue, Fantasy
B - San, MarineKing
C - Life, Rain
D - Dream, TY
E - Parting, Maru
F - herO, Taeja
G - Dark, Dear
H - Innovation, Solar
Only in groups B,C, and D do I think there will be much competition or deviation from my predictions. Very stoked for a lot of these matches though, and I definitely hope to see Dream, Dark, Rogue, and Fantasy do well, given their recent performances.
In regards to Terminator vs Taeja potential match, I don't think Terminator is actually that good. In fact, I'd say he is rather bad, and Taeja just started playing horrendously towards the end of the series, eventually losing it 3-2. I severely doubt that Terminator is capable of making it out of that group...
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Australia18228 Posts
Thought that was a TaeJa-HerO teamkill for a moment
I have a feeling Super is gonna upset his group
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I want to see Dark disappoint in a Yonghwa-esque manner and get crushed by Dear and MMA. Something about those young Zerg prodigies/up and comers really gets my Protoss blood boiling. Except Solar oddly enough.
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Don't really see a group of death this season. Group C is the closest to one.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36948 Posts
I call fake news. Where is the obligatory "Group of Death?" poll?
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On December 24 2014 18:59 Seeker wrote:
I call fake news. Where is the obligatory "Group of Death?" poll?
Poll: Group of Death?Group B (MarineKing, Soulkey, Yoda, San) (128) 34% Group C (Gumiho, Life, Rain, Panic) (128) 34% Group E (Maru, Hack, First, Parting) (34) 9% Group F (Taeja, herO, Terminator, Curious) (25) 7% Group D (TY, Bomber, Dream, YongHwa) (17) 5% Group H (Heart, Solar, Super, Innovation) (16) 4% Group G (Dark, MMA, Seed, Dear) (14) 4% Group A (MC, Penguin, Rogue, Fantasy) (10) 3% 372 total votes Your vote: Group of Death? (Vote): Group A (MC, Penguin, Rogue, Fantasy)
(Vote): Group B (MarineKing, Soulkey, Yoda, San)
(Vote): Group C (Gumiho, Life, Rain, Panic)
(Vote): Group D (TY, Bomber, Dream, YongHwa)
(Vote): Group E (Maru, Hack, First, Parting)
(Vote): Group F (Taeja, herO, Terminator, Curious)
(Vote): Group G (Dark, MMA, Seed, Dear)
(Vote): Group H (Heart, Solar, Super, Innovation)
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What a sick group for MC, no PvP, and some of the weakest players in GSL. He has a great shot to go through and would not be surprised with a 2-0, 4-0
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awww MKP's group is SO tough
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On December 24 2014 19:09 coloursheep wrote:
What a sick group for MC, no PvP, and some of the weakest players in GSL. He has a great shot to go through and would not be surprised with a 2-0, 4-0
The only thing that makes the group "weak" is the fact that MC plays in it 
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Aww. Tough group for GuMiho, but he's in such good form hopefully he can do it.
Very tough group for MVPMK also, not liking his chances there, but then again I didn't like his chances to roll through the Hot6ix Cup either.
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On December 24 2014 19:20 AxionSteel wrote:
Aww. Tough group for GuMiho, but he's in such good form hopefully he can do it.
Very tough group for MVPMK also, not liking his chances there, but then again I didn't like his chances to roll through the Kespa Cup either.
It was the hot6ix cup, not Kespa cup.
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Not too enthusiast about those groups, there's a wrong note in each of them that adds a bland flavor
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
On December 24 2014 19:04 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2014 18:59 Seeker wrote:
I call fake news. Where is the obligatory "Group of Death?" poll? Poll: Group of Death?Group B (MarineKing, Soulkey, Yoda, San) (128) 34% Group C (Gumiho, Life, Rain, Panic) (128) 34% Group E (Maru, Hack, First, Parting) (34) 9% Group F (Taeja, herO, Terminator, Curious) (25) 7% Group D (TY, Bomber, Dream, YongHwa) (17) 5% Group H (Heart, Solar, Super, Innovation) (16) 4% Group G (Dark, MMA, Seed, Dear) (14) 4% Group A (MC, Penguin, Rogue, Fantasy) (10) 3% 372 total votes Your vote: Group of Death? (Vote): Group A (MC, Penguin, Rogue, Fantasy)
(Vote): Group B (MarineKing, Soulkey, Yoda, San)
(Vote): Group C (Gumiho, Life, Rain, Panic)
(Vote): Group D (TY, Bomber, Dream, YongHwa)
(Vote): Group E (Maru, Hack, First, Parting)
(Vote): Group F (Taeja, herO, Terminator, Curious)
(Vote): Group G (Dark, MMA, Seed, Dear)
(Vote): Group H (Heart, Solar, Super, Innovation)
added the poll to the OP
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On December 24 2014 19:17 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2014 19:09 coloursheep wrote:
What a sick group for MC, no PvP, and some of the weakest players in GSL. He has a great shot to go through and would not be surprised with a 2-0, 4-0 The only thing that makes the group "weak" is the fact that MC plays in it
This is obiviously personal to you, whatever you have against MC has effected your ability to be objective so we will just have to wait and see what happens in a few weeks. If you are wrong and MC goes through I hope your back admitting you were wrong.
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On December 24 2014 19:27 ANLProbe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2014 19:20 AxionSteel wrote:
Aww. Tough group for GuMiho, but he's in such good form hopefully he can do it.
Very tough group for MVPMK also, not liking his chances there, but then again I didn't like his chances to roll through the Kespa Cup either.
It was the hot6ix cup, not Kespa cup.
thanks
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On December 24 2014 20:03 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2014 19:39 coloursheep wrote:On December 24 2014 19:17 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 24 2014 19:09 coloursheep wrote:
What a sick group for MC, no PvP, and some of the weakest players in GSL. He has a great shot to go through and would not be surprised with a 2-0, 4-0 The only thing that makes the group "weak" is the fact that MC plays in it This is obiviously personal to you, whatever you have against MC has effected your ability to be objective so we will just have to wait and see what happens in a few weeks. If you are wrong and MC goes through I hope your back admitting you were wrong. I don't have anything against MC, he just isn't on par with the good players anymore, just like a lot of the "old" fan favorites. That doesn't mean he has absolutely no chance, but i wouldn't say he is the favorite in that group by any means.
Yeah, he's for sure the weakest in his group.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Seriously, those groups look so weak, if you consider in what circumstances were they achieved.
Am i going to be hilarious if i say that Dark has serious chance to win whole tournament, lol.
On the other hand, legit group for Penguin, God bless our new rookie.
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This doesn't feel like Code S.
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Germany3367 Posts
Does anyone know the match order?
Is it player 1 vs. player 2 and player 3 vs. player 4, or player 1 vs. player 4 and player 2 vs. player 3?
Also I have to agree with some of you here - I don't have the 'Code S-feeling' here, so many names missing, and so many names feel like they don't belong here. We'll see how it goes I guess. =)
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Bisutopia19195 Posts
On December 24 2014 18:01 Liliputin wrote:YoDa and MarineKing in same the group... Who am I gonna cheer for?
The other two players.
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MC couldn't have hoped for an easier group, but I still think he will go out.
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I cant wait!
A: Rogue, MC
B: Soulkey, MarineKing
C: Life, Rain
D: Bomber, Dream
E: Maru, PartinG
F: Taeja, herO
G: Dear, MMA
H: INnoVation, Solar
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Who needs a Nat when you can block it with a ffe? San is bAck bitches
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
Nice games :D
Wonder how all groups will go. I lol at Taeja and Terminator meeting again :D rivalry being made there. Hoping for some good games.
GSL FIGHTING!
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I got excited when i saw MVP next to MarineKing then i remembered it is his clan. Thought the king somehow emerged again Seriously though what happened to mvp? He would be glorious to watch while terran was doing good again. Carpal tunnel literally killing e-sports
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funny how people complain about your MCs and Hyuns getting points for tournaments that invite them yet when anyone except the previous seasons top performers goes through GSL qualifiers everyone hates that too. i guess it would be okay to invite soo and zest and handicap them through qualis?
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United States97276 Posts
A - Rogue, Fantasy
B - YoDa, San
C - GuMiho, Rain
D - TY, Yonghwa
E - Maru, Parting
F - herO, TaeJa
G - Dark, Dear
H - Super, Innovation
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Panic and Yonghwa are fucked.
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On December 24 2014 20:09 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Seriously, those groups look so weak, if you consider in what circumstances were they achieved.
Am i going to be hilarious if i say that Dark has serious chance to win whole tournament, lol.
On the other hand, legit group for Penguin, God bless our new rookie.
Dark?? PLZ, he'll get rekted by Rain ( if he meets him)
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On December 24 2014 23:07 brickrd wrote:
funny how people complain about your MCs and Hyuns getting points for tournaments that invite them yet when anyone except the previous seasons top performers goes through GSL qualifiers everyone hates that too. i guess it would be okay to invite soo and zest and handicap them through qualis?
MC had an extremely easy qualifier and HyuN didn't make it to GSL or SSL.
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On December 24 2014 23:07 brickrd wrote:
funny how people complain about your MCs and Hyuns getting points for tournaments that invite them yet when anyone except the previous seasons top performers goes through GSL qualifiers everyone hates that too. i guess it would be okay to invite soo and zest and handicap them through qualis?
Totally agree.
I think some fans have an irrational belief that KR Koreans are supremely the best and when they got rekt in the qualifiers they insist it was by inferior players hence why they consider this GSL line-up 'weak'. In reality there are plaenty of non-Kespa/Korean scene players that have consistently shown themselves to be able to beat those that stayed in Korea.
Yes, MMA really is that good despite being on a foreign team. Yes, MC is still capable of beating anyone. Parting, Rain, Soulkey, Innovation - they've all shown that some players leave for Europe despite being good enough to win in KR. Playing in Europe doesn't make you inferior as these qualifiers have shown.
It's funny that all those complaining about weak line-ups are KT or SKT fans (literally - go and look at the team tags itt). I think they need to readjust their beliefs on who is good and bad. Some foreign team players are going to seriously shock them. MMA, San, Hyun are legitimately world class imo.
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Awesome to see a player like PenguiN in GSL. Finally you see some new face. I'm curious how hack will perform, and the former Europeans like MC, YoDa, First, MMA and so on!
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Poor Hack and First...lol
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I am interested to see what those Kespa elitists will say if both ssl and gsl are won by non kespa koreans
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On December 24 2014 23:50 IAMPRO wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2014 23:07 brickrd wrote:
funny how people complain about your MCs and Hyuns getting points for tournaments that invite them yet when anyone except the previous seasons top performers goes through GSL qualifiers everyone hates that too. i guess it would be okay to invite soo and zest and handicap them through qualis? Totally agree. I think some fans have an irrational belief that KR Koreans are supremely the best and when they got rekt in the qualifiers they insist it was by inferior players hence why they consider this GSL line-up 'weak'. In reality there are plaenty of non-Kespa/Korean scene players that have consistently shown themselves to be able to beat those that stayed in Korea. Yes, MMA really is that good despite being on a foreign team. Yes, MC is still capable of beating anyone. Parting, Rain, Soulkey, Innovation - they've all shown that some players leave for Europe despite being good enough to win in KR. Playing in Europe doesn't make you inferior as these qualifiers have shown. It's funny that all those complaining about weak line-ups are KT or SKT fans (literally - go and look at the team tags itt). I think they need to readjust their beliefs on who is good and bad. Some foreign team players are going to seriously shock them. MMA, San, Hyun are legitimately world class imo.
HyuN didn't qualify. MC has a 40% win rate vs Koreans. San is good. Hard to say for MMA tbh.
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Hm where's the "there is none" option. For once, I honestly believe there is no Group of Death. Every group has weak players, no group feels like it has at least 3 powerhouses.
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On December 24 2014 18:33 ANLProbe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2014 18:24 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On December 24 2014 18:23 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 24 2014 18:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
FINALLY!
Mostly good ro32 groups.
- MC is totally coming out of the first group.
Nah he is not, Rogue and Fantasy imo Get out. MC is 2-basing their asses into oblivion and doing a good ol' ceremony to top it off. MC has a around a 40% win rate vs Koreans. I seriously doubt he will go through.
But that winrate comes from playing the good Koreans that win oversea tournaments. Not the punching bags that fill up PL and are feeded to Flash and the others. So it doesn't say much.
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On December 25 2014 00:30 FeyFey wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2014 18:33 ANLProbe wrote:On December 24 2014 18:24 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On December 24 2014 18:23 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 24 2014 18:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
FINALLY!
Mostly good ro32 groups.
- MC is totally coming out of the first group.
Nah he is not, Rogue and Fantasy imo Get out. MC is 2-basing their asses into oblivion and doing a good ol' ceremony to top it off. MC has a around a 40% win rate vs Koreans. I seriously doubt he will go through. But that winrate comes from playing the good Koreans that win oversea tournaments. Not the punching bags that fill up PL and are feeded to Flash and the others. So it doesn't say much.
MC only beat the "punch-bags". The only non punch bag player that he beat was Losira who is way past his day. He lost to jjakji who has been pretty bad the majority of this year, twice.
And anyway the punch bags of Korea are much stronger than the majority of EU. The so called punch bags rarely get played in PL anyway.
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Wow the group with Dark MMA and Dear super underrated, but the poll is just about how I feel about the groups in terms of strength.
Predictions:
A: Rogue, MC
B: San, Soulkey
C: Rain, Life
D: TY, Bomber
E: Parting, Maru
F: herO, Terminator
G: Dark, Dear
H: Solar, Innovation
5 7 4
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your Country52797 Posts
Oh jeez, that group C is scary.
FanTaSy + PenguiN
Soulkey + San
Life + Gumiho
Bomber + YongHwa
First + PartinG
TaeJa + Terminator (Why are they in the same group? -_-)
Dark + Dear
Heart + Solar
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You're all very bold to make predictions before we're 100% certain about the map pool
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On December 25 2014 01:02 TheDwf wrote:
You're all very bold to make predictions before we're 100% certain about the map pool
I thought they were using Blizzard map pool announced last week (with tweak here and there on the new maps), but I imagine the maps won't have too much of an impact.
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On December 25 2014 01:02 TheDwf wrote:
You're all very bold to make predictions before we're 100% certain about the map pool
Ehhh, I wouldn't say that makes that big of a difference for a group prediction. However, I wouldn't make map score predictions without knowing the maps.
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your Country52797 Posts
On December 25 2014 01:02 TheDwf wrote:
You're all very bold to make predictions before we're 100% certain about the map pool
Shouldn't affect who advances that much. Maybe the first and second place could be switched, or occasionally third place will advance instead of second place.
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Can't wait to see Taeja get rekted by herO.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On December 25 2014 01:11 vult wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2014 01:02 TheDwf wrote:
You're all very bold to make predictions before we're 100% certain about the map pool I thought they were using Blizzard map pool announced last week (with tweak here and there on the new maps), but I imagine the maps won't have too much of an impact.
UHHH
That's even more bold.
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Hoping FanTaSy dominates this tournament. After watching his stream he just seems far better skill wise than his results have dictated so far in Sc2
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United States97276 Posts
On December 25 2014 01:02 TheDwf wrote:
You're all very bold to make predictions before we're 100% certain about the map pool
Go bold or go home.
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
On December 25 2014 02:31 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2014 01:02 TheDwf wrote:
You're all very bold to make predictions before we're 100% certain about the map pool Go bold or go home.
For me its more like go bald or go home :<
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On December 25 2014 02:19 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2014 01:11 vult wrote:On December 25 2014 01:02 TheDwf wrote:
You're all very bold to make predictions before we're 100% certain about the map pool I thought they were using Blizzard map pool announced last week (with tweak here and there on the new maps), but I imagine the maps won't have too much of an impact. UHHH That's even more bold.
Nahhhh idk what you're talking about 
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Wowowow... some really great groups! Super excited for groups B, C, F, and H in particular!
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A: MC and Rogue - MC is the best Protoss in the world and has the results to back it up. Rogue beat Soulkey. That's enough to beat anyone.
B: MarineKing and Soulkey - MarineKing is the best Terran in the world right now. Soulkey, although in a slump, is still better than other players.
C: Life and Rain - Life is hands down THE BEST player in the world right now. Since fOrGG is in Europe, absolutely nobody in Korea can stop him. Rain is just a solid player that will barely make it out of this group.
D: Bomber and Dream - Bomber and Dream are just better than the other two players.
E: Maru and Parting - Maru and Parting are just better than the other two.
F: Terminator and herO - Normally I'd say herO and Taeja, but Taeja is in a huge slump right now and has been losing to Protoss left and right. herO is just really really good.
G: MMA and Dear - MMA is just the best player in this group and Dear is slowly coming back to his championship form.
H: Solar and Innovation - No explanation needed. These players are superior to the other two.
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The groups seem to be well balanced at first glance.
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People are underrating group H. Heart and Super are very good. In particular throughout 2014 Heart has been one of the best TvZ players in the world.
Except group E, where I'd say Maru and PartinG are the clear favorites, most of these groups are pretty hard to call. Many have a few players with "bigger names" than others but if you're paying attention to people's recent results and 2014 form instead of just name brand recognition it's quite close.
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On December 25 2014 04:54 swag_bro wrote:
A: MC and Rogue - MC is the best Protoss in the world and has the results to back it up. Rogue beat Soulkey. That's enough to beat anyone.
B: MarineKing and Soulkey - MarineKing is the best Terran in the world right now. Soulkey, although in a slump, is still better than other players.
C: Life and Rain - Life is hands down THE BEST player in the world right now. Since fOrGG is in Europe, absolutely nobody in Korea can stop him. Rain is just a solid player that will barely make it out of this group.
D: Bomber and Dream - Bomber and Dream are just better than the other two players.
E: Maru and Parting - Maru and Parting are just better than the other two.
F: Terminator and herO - Normally I'd say herO and Taeja, but Taeja is in a huge slump right now and has been losing to Protoss left and right. herO is just really really good.
G: MMA and Dear - MMA is just the best player in this group and Dear is slowly coming back to his championship form.
H: Solar and Innovation - No explanation needed. These players are superior to the other two.
I'm genuinely not sure if you're trolling or stupid?
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On December 25 2014 05:05 ANLProbe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2014 04:54 swag_bro wrote:
A: MC and Rogue - MC is the best Protoss in the world and has the results to back it up. Rogue beat Soulkey. That's enough to beat anyone.
B: MarineKing and Soulkey - MarineKing is the best Terran in the world right now. Soulkey, although in a slump, is still better than other players.
C: Life and Rain - Life is hands down THE BEST player in the world right now. Since fOrGG is in Europe, absolutely nobody in Korea can stop him. Rain is just a solid player that will barely make it out of this group.
D: Bomber and Dream - Bomber and Dream are just better than the other two players.
E: Maru and Parting - Maru and Parting are just better than the other two.
F: Terminator and herO - Normally I'd say herO and Taeja, but Taeja is in a huge slump right now and has been losing to Protoss left and right. herO is just really really good.
G: MMA and Dear - MMA is just the best player in this group and Dear is slowly coming back to his championship form.
H: Solar and Innovation - No explanation needed. These players are superior to the other two. I'm genuinely not sure if you're trolling or stupid?
You are not the first one to feel that way.
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just feels a bit weak right now O_O
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A -
Fantasy, Rouge
B -
MarineKing, YoDa
C-
Life, Rain
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Dream, Bomber
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Maru, Parting
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TaeJa, herO
G-
Dark, Dear
H-
Solar, INnoVation
So hard to predict tho
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On December 25 2014 05:05 ANLProbe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2014 04:54 swag_bro wrote:
A: MC and Rogue - MC is the best Protoss in the world and has the results to back it up. Rogue beat Soulkey. That's enough to beat anyone.
B: MarineKing and Soulkey - MarineKing is the best Terran in the world right now. Soulkey, although in a slump, is still better than other players.
C: Life and Rain - Life is hands down THE BEST player in the world right now. Since fOrGG is in Europe, absolutely nobody in Korea can stop him. Rain is just a solid player that will barely make it out of this group.
D: Bomber and Dream - Bomber and Dream are just better than the other two players.
E: Maru and Parting - Maru and Parting are just better than the other two.
F: Terminator and herO - Normally I'd say herO and Taeja, but Taeja is in a huge slump right now and has been losing to Protoss left and right. herO is just really really good.
G: MMA and Dear - MMA is just the best player in this group and Dear is slowly coming back to his championship form.
H: Solar and Innovation - No explanation needed. These players are superior to the other two. I'm genuinely not sure if you're trolling or stupid?
He's the former.
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On December 25 2014 05:05 ANLProbe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2014 04:54 swag_bro wrote:
A: MC and Rogue - MC is the best Protoss in the world and has the results to back it up. Rogue beat Soulkey. That's enough to beat anyone.
B: MarineKing and Soulkey - MarineKing is the best Terran in the world right now. Soulkey, although in a slump, is still better than other players.
C: Life and Rain - Life is hands down THE BEST player in the world right now. Since fOrGG is in Europe, absolutely nobody in Korea can stop him. Rain is just a solid player that will barely make it out of this group.
D: Bomber and Dream - Bomber and Dream are just better than the other two players.
E: Maru and Parting - Maru and Parting are just better than the other two.
F: Terminator and herO - Normally I'd say herO and Taeja, but Taeja is in a huge slump right now and has been losing to Protoss left and right. herO is just really really good.
G: MMA and Dear - MMA is just the best player in this group and Dear is slowly coming back to his championship form.
H: Solar and Innovation - No explanation needed. These players are superior to the other two. I'm genuinely not sure if you're trolling or stupid?
swag_bro'd 
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On December 25 2014 05:28 Silvana wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2014 05:05 ANLProbe wrote:On December 25 2014 04:54 swag_bro wrote:
A: MC and Rogue - MC is the best Protoss in the world and has the results to back it up. Rogue beat Soulkey. That's enough to beat anyone.
B: MarineKing and Soulkey - MarineKing is the best Terran in the world right now. Soulkey, although in a slump, is still better than other players.
C: Life and Rain - Life is hands down THE BEST player in the world right now. Since fOrGG is in Europe, absolutely nobody in Korea can stop him. Rain is just a solid player that will barely make it out of this group.
D: Bomber and Dream - Bomber and Dream are just better than the other two players.
E: Maru and Parting - Maru and Parting are just better than the other two.
F: Terminator and herO - Normally I'd say herO and Taeja, but Taeja is in a huge slump right now and has been losing to Protoss left and right. herO is just really really good.
G: MMA and Dear - MMA is just the best player in this group and Dear is slowly coming back to his championship form.
H: Solar and Innovation - No explanation needed. These players are superior to the other two. I'm genuinely not sure if you're trolling or stupid? swag_bro'd
GumBa warned me
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I don't get the weak comments, the players that qualified are the players that are playing well right now. The huge crossover between SSL and GSL qualified players proves this.
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surprised by the pool, i thought that the group c would top the vote
btw swag_bro is a genius hahaha
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On December 25 2014 06:38 Dodgin wrote:
I don't get the weak comments, the players that qualified are the players that are playing well right now. The huge crossover between SSL and GSL qualified players proves this.
something something its all the koreigners something something no soO zest sOs something
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Taeja v Terminator rematch? Hahah.
I hope Taeja can win this time!
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On December 25 2014 06:38 Dodgin wrote:
I don't get the weak comments, the players that qualified are the players that are playing well right now. The huge crossover between SSL and GSL qualified players proves this.
People just don't want to believe that there were so many top level players who were outside WCS Korea last year. Definitely feels good to see so many people say "weak" because they massively underestimated the players returning to Korea. Yet I've seen so few outright admit it. Guess that would be too much to ask.
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On December 25 2014 07:08 Megiddosc wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2014 06:38 Dodgin wrote:
I don't get the weak comments, the players that qualified are the players that are playing well right now. The huge crossover between SSL and GSL qualified players proves this. People just don't want to believe that there were so many top level players who were outside WCS Korea last year. Definitely feels good to see so many people say "weak" because they massively underestimated the players returning to Korea. Yet I've seen so few outright admit it. Guess that would be too much to ask.
That's really not it. The list of names just doesn't feel like a very strong one compared to other times in sc. Sometimes the field "feels" really stacked, (even when it's not necessarily that competitive) This time, even though the best players who are playing right now are competing, it just doesn't feel that crazy stacked
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On December 25 2014 05:28 Silvana wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2014 05:05 ANLProbe wrote:On December 25 2014 04:54 swag_bro wrote:
A: MC and Rogue - MC is the best Protoss in the world and has the results to back it up. Rogue beat Soulkey. That's enough to beat anyone.
B: MarineKing and Soulkey - MarineKing is the best Terran in the world right now. Soulkey, although in a slump, is still better than other players.
C: Life and Rain - Life is hands down THE BEST player in the world right now. Since fOrGG is in Europe, absolutely nobody in Korea can stop him. Rain is just a solid player that will barely make it out of this group.
D: Bomber and Dream - Bomber and Dream are just better than the other two players.
E: Maru and Parting - Maru and Parting are just better than the other two.
F: Terminator and herO - Normally I'd say herO and Taeja, but Taeja is in a huge slump right now and has been losing to Protoss left and right. herO is just really really good.
G: MMA and Dear - MMA is just the best player in this group and Dear is slowly coming back to his championship form.
H: Solar and Innovation - No explanation needed. These players are superior to the other two. I'm genuinely not sure if you're trolling or stupid? swag_bro'd
Am I some meme on TL now when someone does not agree with my opinion? It's just an opinion... calm down.
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On December 25 2014 07:59 swag_bro wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2014 05:28 Silvana wrote:On December 25 2014 05:05 ANLProbe wrote:On December 25 2014 04:54 swag_bro wrote:
A: MC and Rogue - MC is the best Protoss in the world and has the results to back it up. Rogue beat Soulkey. That's enough to beat anyone.
B: MarineKing and Soulkey - MarineKing is the best Terran in the world right now. Soulkey, although in a slump, is still better than other players.
C: Life and Rain - Life is hands down THE BEST player in the world right now. Since fOrGG is in Europe, absolutely nobody in Korea can stop him. Rain is just a solid player that will barely make it out of this group.
D: Bomber and Dream - Bomber and Dream are just better than the other two players.
E: Maru and Parting - Maru and Parting are just better than the other two.
F: Terminator and herO - Normally I'd say herO and Taeja, but Taeja is in a huge slump right now and has been losing to Protoss left and right. herO is just really really good.
G: MMA and Dear - MMA is just the best player in this group and Dear is slowly coming back to his championship form.
H: Solar and Innovation - No explanation needed. These players are superior to the other two. I'm genuinely not sure if you're trolling or stupid? swag_bro'd Am I some meme on TL now when someone does not agree with my opinion? It's just an opinion... calm down.
I agree with swag_bro predictions. Maybe San instead of soulkey because soulkey was a patchzerg and Dark instead of MMA because he sucks. Also innovation can get out because he tends to choke
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On December 25 2014 08:08 TheAnarchy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2014 07:59 swag_bro wrote:On December 25 2014 05:28 Silvana wrote:On December 25 2014 05:05 ANLProbe wrote:On December 25 2014 04:54 swag_bro wrote:
A: MC and Rogue - MC is the best Protoss in the world and has the results to back it up. Rogue beat Soulkey. That's enough to beat anyone.
B: MarineKing and Soulkey - MarineKing is the best Terran in the world right now. Soulkey, although in a slump, is still better than other players.
C: Life and Rain - Life is hands down THE BEST player in the world right now. Since fOrGG is in Europe, absolutely nobody in Korea can stop him. Rain is just a solid player that will barely make it out of this group.
D: Bomber and Dream - Bomber and Dream are just better than the other two players.
E: Maru and Parting - Maru and Parting are just better than the other two.
F: Terminator and herO - Normally I'd say herO and Taeja, but Taeja is in a huge slump right now and has been losing to Protoss left and right. herO is just really really good.
G: MMA and Dear - MMA is just the best player in this group and Dear is slowly coming back to his championship form.
H: Solar and Innovation - No explanation needed. These players are superior to the other two. I'm genuinely not sure if you're trolling or stupid? swag_bro'd Am I some meme on TL now when someone does not agree with my opinion? It's just an opinion... calm down. I agree with swag_bro predictions. Maybe San instead of soulkey because soulkey was a patchzerg and Dark instead of MMA because he sucks. Also innovation can get out because he tends to choke
soulkey was a patchzerg
Exactly how? He won the GSL after HotS started >.>
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On December 25 2014 08:20 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2014 08:08 TheAnarchy wrote:On December 25 2014 07:59 swag_bro wrote:On December 25 2014 05:28 Silvana wrote:On December 25 2014 05:05 ANLProbe wrote:On December 25 2014 04:54 swag_bro wrote:
A: MC and Rogue - MC is the best Protoss in the world and has the results to back it up. Rogue beat Soulkey. That's enough to beat anyone.
B: MarineKing and Soulkey - MarineKing is the best Terran in the world right now. Soulkey, although in a slump, is still better than other players.
C: Life and Rain - Life is hands down THE BEST player in the world right now. Since fOrGG is in Europe, absolutely nobody in Korea can stop him. Rain is just a solid player that will barely make it out of this group.
D: Bomber and Dream - Bomber and Dream are just better than the other two players.
E: Maru and Parting - Maru and Parting are just better than the other two.
F: Terminator and herO - Normally I'd say herO and Taeja, but Taeja is in a huge slump right now and has been losing to Protoss left and right. herO is just really really good.
G: MMA and Dear - MMA is just the best player in this group and Dear is slowly coming back to his championship form.
H: Solar and Innovation - No explanation needed. These players are superior to the other two. I'm genuinely not sure if you're trolling or stupid? swag_bro'd Am I some meme on TL now when someone does not agree with my opinion? It's just an opinion... calm down. I agree with swag_bro predictions. Maybe San instead of soulkey because soulkey was a patchzerg and Dark instead of MMA because he sucks. Also innovation can get out because he tends to choke Exactly how? He won the GSL after HotS started >.>
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I agree with swag_bro predictions.
swag_bro'd by proxy
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Group of death is only used for groups that are actually a group of death. There doesn't have to be a group of death every season.
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On December 25 2014 08:20 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2014 08:08 TheAnarchy wrote:On December 25 2014 07:59 swag_bro wrote:On December 25 2014 05:28 Silvana wrote:On December 25 2014 05:05 ANLProbe wrote:On December 25 2014 04:54 swag_bro wrote:
A: MC and Rogue - MC is the best Protoss in the world and has the results to back it up. Rogue beat Soulkey. That's enough to beat anyone.
B: MarineKing and Soulkey - MarineKing is the best Terran in the world right now. Soulkey, although in a slump, is still better than other players.
C: Life and Rain - Life is hands down THE BEST player in the world right now. Since fOrGG is in Europe, absolutely nobody in Korea can stop him. Rain is just a solid player that will barely make it out of this group.
D: Bomber and Dream - Bomber and Dream are just better than the other two players.
E: Maru and Parting - Maru and Parting are just better than the other two.
F: Terminator and herO - Normally I'd say herO and Taeja, but Taeja is in a huge slump right now and has been losing to Protoss left and right. herO is just really really good.
G: MMA and Dear - MMA is just the best player in this group and Dear is slowly coming back to his championship form.
H: Solar and Innovation - No explanation needed. These players are superior to the other two. I'm genuinely not sure if you're trolling or stupid? swag_bro'd Am I some meme on TL now when someone does not agree with my opinion? It's just an opinion... calm down. I agree with swag_bro predictions. Maybe San instead of soulkey because soulkey was a patchzerg and Dark instead of MMA because he sucks. Also innovation can get out because he tends to choke Exactly how? He won the GSL after HotS started >.>
Rekt.
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Group G is kinda hard to call. Dark is looking stronger than ever but Dear and MMA are strong contenders too, and it would be a felony to count Seed out.
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On December 25 2014 07:59 swag_bro wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2014 05:28 Silvana wrote:On December 25 2014 05:05 ANLProbe wrote:On December 25 2014 04:54 swag_bro wrote:
A: MC and Rogue - MC is the best Protoss in the world and has the results to back it up. Rogue beat Soulkey. That's enough to beat anyone.
B: MarineKing and Soulkey - MarineKing is the best Terran in the world right now. Soulkey, although in a slump, is still better than other players.
C: Life and Rain - Life is hands down THE BEST player in the world right now. Since fOrGG is in Europe, absolutely nobody in Korea can stop him. Rain is just a solid player that will barely make it out of this group.
D: Bomber and Dream - Bomber and Dream are just better than the other two players.
E: Maru and Parting - Maru and Parting are just better than the other two.
F: Terminator and herO - Normally I'd say herO and Taeja, but Taeja is in a huge slump right now and has been losing to Protoss left and right. herO is just really really good.
G: MMA and Dear - MMA is just the best player in this group and Dear is slowly coming back to his championship form.
H: Solar and Innovation - No explanation needed. These players are superior to the other two. I'm genuinely not sure if you're trolling or stupid? swag_bro'd Am I some meme on TL now when someone does not agree with my opinion? It's just an opinion... calm down.
Swag_Bro is a meme, we have to ban him now
RIP dude, I'll never forget your swag, bro
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No groups of death, hopefully we'll have one in the Ro16 if Parting decides to make one again. Do they still even do group selections?
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Hi everyone, saw the groups and can't keep wounder, JD, sOs, Zest . can anyone explain the reasons of those 3 players not attending?
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On December 26 2014 17:39 StorKK wrote:Hi everyone, saw the groups and can't keep wounder, JD, sOs, Zest . can anyone explain the reasons of those 3 players not attending?
Jaedong will presumably play WCS in another region, sOs and Zest didn't qualify.
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On December 26 2014 17:39 StorKK wrote:Hi everyone, saw the groups and can't keep wounder, JD, sOs, Zest . can anyone explain the reasons of those 3 players not attending?
JD didn't participate in qualifiers, sOs and Zest failed to qualify.
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FanTa has a doable group. I'm glad, gogo FanTa!!!!~~~
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i'd be really stoked to see gumiho, life, maru, parting, or taeja win this GSL.
but, i will absolutely lose my shit if gumiho does. go gumiho!!!
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