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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 13 2014 08:15 GMT
#101
So, if the same rules were applied by foreign teams, only HasuObs would be able to get this status right ?
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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
November 13 2014 08:17 GMT
#102
On November 13 2014 17:15 Boucot wrote:
So, if the same rules were applied by foreign teams, only HasuObs would be able to get this status right ?

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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 13 2014 08:17 GMT
#103
On November 13 2014 17:00 tar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2014 16:40 Magnet wrote:
Yay for technicalities that keep the best/most entertaining players out of premiere leagues. A great idea overall. 10/10.


exactly. It's basically hurting themselves. But that's the problem with big organisations (especially if they are government-regulated), they stick to their rules no matter if the are still coherent with the actual outside world and changing those rules usually takes forever...


I'm not convinced KeSPA won't come around and change this before the season begins. Parting (and Fantasy and Rain, I guess?) is a big name in Proleague and unless they're really stupid they'll do their best to get him to play. I hope so, at least.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 13 2014 08:21 GMT
#104
haha this is fucking ridiculous and why would SKT not file a ruquest to release these restrictions on their ex-players...
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8497 Posts
November 13 2014 08:23 GMT
#105
On November 13 2014 17:21 Musicus wrote:
haha this is fucking ridiculous and why would SKT not file a ruquest to release these restrictions on their ex-players...


Because they are more part of the problem than the solution in this case?
tar
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany991 Posts
November 13 2014 08:29 GMT
#106
On November 13 2014 17:17 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2014 17:00 tar wrote:
On November 13 2014 16:40 Magnet wrote:
Yay for technicalities that keep the best/most entertaining players out of premiere leagues. A great idea overall. 10/10.


exactly. It's basically hurting themselves. But that's the problem with big organisations (especially if they are government-regulated), they stick to their rules no matter if the are still coherent with the actual outside world and changing those rules usually takes forever...


I'm not convinced KeSPA won't come around and change this before the season begins. Parting (and Fantasy and Rain, I guess?) is a big name in Proleague and unless they're really stupid they'll do their best to get him to play. I hope so, at least.


That might very well be the case. However, since they had to change their ruleset with kind of a retroactive effect (if it were to be applied to the upcoming season), I guess they'd take the "easy" way and make SKT1 to let the players' Pl rights go...

all so vague. let's just hope for the best. I for once am crossing fingers for it to happen, since I really want those players in next PL!
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SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
November 13 2014 08:30 GMT
#107
what a sad news...
Vasacast always in my <3
Ronyar
Profile Joined November 2011
France3 Posts
November 13 2014 08:30 GMT
#108
On November 13 2014 13:09 SC2Towelie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2014 12:52 Lumi wrote:
Typical KeSPA move, randomly screwing over the people who they make money off of for no respectable reason


Yes... "randomly screwing over people." Not saying I agree with the rule, but it was clearly defined in their contracts. So, they either chose to ignore it or just didn't read it, which is a huge mistake when you're dealing with an organization like Kespa, who are known for being very strict with their rules.


Sorry but this kind of thinking makes me mad. It's not because something is written in a contract that it's valid. It's clearly an abusive clause to limit 15 years old teenagers for 4 years without any compensation. Having non-competition clauses is ok and understandable but in any normal jurisdiction 4 years would be judged as unenforceable, in many countries it should require a financial compensation during the stated period of time.
Judging by what is told it's not even in their contract but in the rules of the tournament. This is complete bullshit. What the hell a tournament (Proleage) has to do with the commercial status of a player! The problem is that Kespa is managing the teams as well as the tournaments with the power to screw any player at any moment in any way.
I'm pretty sure that even in Korea all this bullshit would not stand a chance in a court, but nobody can attack Kespa because they could still annoy you for years in a million of other ways.
Hassan_RO
Profile Joined May 2012
Romania77 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-13 08:59:00
November 13 2014 08:58 GMT
#109
JESUS FKING CHRIST! God damned Kespa jail i hope they all die!
Seriously, when everyone is trying to save this game by growing the scene, encouraging new teams in PL, encouraging new tournaments, encouraging korean players to go abroad and expand their careers, Kespa seems to be doing everything it can to keep its dictatorship alive inside its own 8x10 prison cell.
Listen to negative edge, SC is NOT the dominant esport anymore, it is struggling to stay afloat! If you put sh1t like this on the map it only helps people retire faster or switch faster to LoL/Dota2!
And the icing on the cake is Rain and fantasy, having played more than 5 years at that team and STILL tied to that team because they were not free agents before? That is some serious bullcr@p, especially since most players in KR were moving through direct team transfers, not leaving team as free agent then joining another team.
Kespa needs to seriously get a reality check........they are stopping this game from growing.....
Also 5 years, when the full life of a progamer at the top (proleague) level can sometimes be below that? utter nonsense!

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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
November 13 2014 09:04 GMT
#110
kespa once again proves it's the nfl of esports when it comes to idiotic rules and regulations.
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
November 13 2014 09:04 GMT
#111
One more event that makes me think that kespa players leaving their team and looking for foreign teams are somewhat fed up to some degree...

Please Kespa, step into modern esports and don't be so restrictive about what your player can do. It'll feel bad as you let some monopoly/power let go, but it'll be good as you won't appear like the bad guys of esports...
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SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
November 13 2014 09:06 GMT
#112
they will have the 50% less viewers during Startale-YFW matches 'cause of PartinG missing.
Vasacast always in my <3
AdelSC123
Profile Joined March 2010
France362 Posts
November 13 2014 09:19 GMT
#113
kespa prolly cant back out out f this rule for contractual reasons. SKT wont hurt its chances of winning AND wont put themselves in a weak spot to negotiate other contracts with other players for no reason. If Startale wants Parting to play in proleague they'll have to give SKT a reason to (ie: money).
zyce
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States649 Posts
November 13 2014 09:30 GMT
#114
Nice one, Kespa. Back in the news at least, I guess?
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
November 13 2014 09:43 GMT
#115
How funny now sounds the statement about attracting foreign teams to Proleague

I hope Kespa will settle this...
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Symbioth
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland103 Posts
November 13 2014 09:45 GMT
#116
This is absolutely ridicilous, if not just downright stupid. Another example of how Kespa abuses the rights of players with completely over-the-top, senslessly restrictive rules. This is just so wrong, how can players be treated this way :/
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-13 09:48:42
November 13 2014 09:47 GMT
#117
Would be Sad not to see such a great personality as PartinG in ProLeague. I hope Kespa fixes this.
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Tzyx
Profile Joined August 2010
Northern Ireland281 Posts
November 13 2014 09:49 GMT
#118
Nice to see WCS get changed so heavily to give these folks more points lol. The hell is wrong with them. They do so much cool stuff and then this kinda crap pops up.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
November 13 2014 09:52 GMT
#119
rofl Kespa. Sick shit right there.
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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
November 13 2014 09:54 GMT
#120
Hopefully SKT do the right thing, once again, KeSPA proves they are a moronic organisation.
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