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sm1995
Profile Joined July 2014
Korea (South)69 Posts
August 25 2014 14:36 GMT
#101
In interview, he wants to play in foreign league. Maybe he wants to earn money more easily like wcs point thief(mc polt hyun stardust san)
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Kofuku
Profile Joined January 2014
31 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-25 14:41:20
August 25 2014 14:39 GMT
#102
I want to see the best compete with the best, of course, but at the end of the day, most SC2 pros are barely adults who haven't done their military service, haven't gone to college, and don't really stand to gain any tangible long-term benefits from the years they have dedicated to entertaining us. There is a lot more money to be made in the foreign tournament scene than in the impossibly difficult domestic scene, so transferring to a non-KeSPA/foreign/"lower-tier" team that is willing to give them more opportunities to play for that tournament cash is just pragmatic.

If they were like pro athletes in mainstream sports earning a huge wage that would keep them comfortable for a long time, then it might at least be an interesting philosophical argument, but trying to shame players like these as running away from the most difficult competition just because they want to maximize what they can earn (or potentially earn) from their very short windows as SC2 pros is just too unsympathetic
sm1995
Profile Joined July 2014
Korea (South)69 Posts
August 25 2014 14:41 GMT
#103
Ah my misunderstood. He will go to foreign team , not going wcs am or eu. Because foreign team is much easy for participating many foreign laegue. But his ability will fall... i cant agree his decision. He will be next jaedong
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sm1995
Profile Joined July 2014
Korea (South)69 Posts
August 25 2014 14:45 GMT
#104
On August 25 2014 23:39 Kofuku wrote:
I want to see the best compete with the best, of course, but at the end of the day, most SC2 pros are barely adults who haven't done their military service, haven't gone to college, and don't really stand to gain any tangible long-term benefits from the years they have dedicated to entertaining us. There is a lot more money to be made in the foreign tournament scene than in the impossibly difficult domestic scene, so transferring to a non-KeSPA/foreign/"lower-tier" team that is willing to give them more opportunities to play for that tournament cash is just pragmatic.

If they were like pro athletes in mainstream sports earning a huge wage that would keep them comfortable for a long time, then it might at least be an interesting philosophical argument, but trying to shame players like these as running away from the most difficult competition just because they want to maximize what they can earn (or potentially earn) from their very short windows as SC2 pros is just too unsympathetic

Im not blaming them. But blaming league institution. Grand final is for better player right?? But because of runner, foreigner's opportunity is getting smaller and GF is not for better player. Is this really right thing??. I really dont care about how much they earn. But GF should be composed with many gsl players.
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-25 14:51:25
August 25 2014 14:50 GMT
#105
TRUE will stay and train in the Axiom house for the duration of his current GSL run, to try and ensure he has a good training environment to support his championship effort. This does not mean he is not looking for a team and interested parties should contact him.
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-25 15:03:55
August 25 2014 15:03 GMT
#106
It's a shame Axiom lacks da monies because there are so many quality players right now that could do with some teams. Journey, Ragnarok and now TRUE.

So much talent. qq

On the other hand, it's really nice of Axiom to support TRUE.
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SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
August 25 2014 15:08 GMT
#107
On August 25 2014 23:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
TRUE will stay and train in the Axiom house for the duration of his current GSL run, to try and ensure he has a good training environment to support his championship effort. This does not mean he is not looking for a team and interested parties should contact him.

So Axiom.TRUE confirmed?:-)
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KatatoniK
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom978 Posts
August 25 2014 15:10 GMT
#108
On August 25 2014 23:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
TRUE will stay and train in the Axiom house for the duration of his current GSL run, to try and ensure he has a good training environment to support his championship effort. This does not mean he is not looking for a team and interested parties should contact him.


This is why you're awesome TB, helping out players who aren't in your own team. Hopefully TRUE takes this GSL one step further than he did last time.

I hope a team picks him up soon he's such a creative Zerg.
Flying on the Jin Air hype plane. Lets go Maru, Rogue, sOs and the handsome CJ herO
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
August 25 2014 15:11 GMT
#109
On August 26 2014 00:08 SuperHofmann wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 23:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
TRUE will stay and train in the Axiom house for the duration of his current GSL run, to try and ensure he has a good training environment to support his championship effort. This does not mean he is not looking for a team and interested parties should contact him.

So Axiom.TRUE confirmed?:-)


No. Interested teams should contact him with offers.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 25 2014 15:13 GMT
#110
On August 26 2014 00:11 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 00:08 SuperHofmann wrote:
On August 25 2014 23:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
TRUE will stay and train in the Axiom house for the duration of his current GSL run, to try and ensure he has a good training environment to support his championship effort. This does not mean he is not looking for a team and interested parties should contact him.

So Axiom.TRUE confirmed?:-)


No. Interested teams should contact him with offers.

When your amazing practice environment allows him to win GSL, will you pick him up then?
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
August 25 2014 15:15 GMT
#111
On August 25 2014 23:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
TRUE will stay and train in the Axiom house for the duration of his current GSL run, to try and ensure he has a good training environment to support his championship effort. This does not mean he is not looking for a team and interested parties should contact him.

Smart move. Should be a win win situation since you get a top player to practice with too.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 25 2014 15:17 GMT
#112
On August 25 2014 23:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
TRUE will stay and train in the Axiom house for the duration of his current GSL run, to try and ensure he has a good training environment to support his championship effort. This does not mean he is not looking for a team and interested parties should contact him.


Very awesome of you TB to let him stay with your guys for a little while. I was worried that without a real practice house he wouldn't last in GSL
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JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
August 25 2014 16:09 GMT
#113
This wasn´t a smart move at all. :-/ Don't know what he's expecting.
Foreign teams' demand for korean players has gone down quite a bit over the past ~6 months, unless you are very popular or very very very good there is almost no chance to get picked up by one of them. In my opinion True is neither very popular nor at the very top. He is pretty good right now, which makes him an expensive player, but still has to prove himself.
Pino
Profile Joined June 2013
1032 Posts
August 25 2014 16:33 GMT
#114
On August 25 2014 23:36 sm1995 wrote:
In interview, he wants to play in foreign league. Maybe he wants to earn money more easily like wcs point thief(mc polt hyun stardust san)


Not many teams can afford to pay salary + travel expenses. And most of these teams are already stacked.
RookUK
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United Kingdom283 Posts
August 25 2014 17:11 GMT
#115
This is pretty horrible news for Jin Air in my view - TRUE has become a genuine heavy hitter recently so he's a big loss.

I really hope the team picks up a couple of quality players and bulks up a bit because Jin Air is just too lean right now.
Cluster__
Profile Joined September 2013
United States328 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-25 17:15:50
August 25 2014 17:15 GMT
#116
i expect myInsanity to pick him up within 24hours

but would personally love to see him on liquid or Root
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
August 25 2014 17:15 GMT
#117
On August 26 2014 01:33 Pino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 23:36 sm1995 wrote:
In interview, he wants to play in foreign league. Maybe he wants to earn money more easily like wcs point thief(mc polt hyun stardust san)


Not many teams can afford to pay salary + travel expenses. And most of these teams are already stacked.


Correct. Not many tournaments offer flights and those that do are doing so in heavily stacked qualifier formats in which only the winner of the qualifier gets flights covered. Flight expenses are a massive part of team budgets, particularly since they are so unpredictable.
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showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
August 25 2014 18:44 GMT
#118
On August 25 2014 23:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
TRUE will stay and train in the Axiom house for the duration of his current GSL run, to try and ensure he has a good training environment to support his championship effort. This does not mean he is not looking for a team and interested parties should contact him.


Perfect win-win scenario. TRUE gets some quality training and hopefully a good run in GSL. Axiom gets a fresh perspective from a former Kespa zerg. Love to see what Impact learns from him.

I hope he catches on somewhere soon.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 25 2014 18:46 GMT
#119
Learn from TRUE at your peril. The guy is legitimately insane, much like Suhosin. Not sure trying to copy some of the stuff he does is the best idea
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Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
August 25 2014 19:17 GMT
#120
On August 25 2014 23:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
TRUE will stay and train in the Axiom house for the duration of his current GSL run, to try and ensure he has a good training environment to support his championship effort. This does not mean he is not looking for a team and interested parties should contact him.

I'm curious how it happens. Did you have some connection with the player before? Were you the one who proposed him to come to your house, or did he ask you?
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