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WCS America - Ro8 Preview - Season 2

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WCS America - Ro8 Preview - Season 2

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July 5th, 2014 18:51 GMT
2014 WCS

WCS America Season 2
Premier League



Previews and Predictions
Heart vs viOLet
Alicia vs Bomber
Polt vs HyuN
TaeJa vs Pigbaby

Brackets and standings on Liquipedia

Ro8 Preview


Countdown:

It is a quick turnaround for players in WCS America, as the Ro16 ended just three days ago and the quarterfinals are about to kick off today. With such a short time to prepare, the match ups should be intense and unscripted. WCS America certainly looks different than its European counterpart, as Terran is the most represented race in the top eight, with four of the boys in blue making it to the quarterfinals. In the end, eight Korean players will clash in this the final weekend of WCS America Season 2.


Heart vs viOLet



The first match of the day in the quarterfinals is a TvZ showdown between two players you wouldn't have been surprised to see in the top four of a 2012 MLG, (T)Ax.Heart and (Z)viOLet. Although the two are a few years removed from when they were at their peak tournament performance, both have experienced a resurgence as of late, as viOLet has benefited from getting an athlete visa in the US and Heart is showing a level of play that hasn't been seen from him in a long time.

Axiom's (T)Heart was for a long time a middle of the road Terran player, and his results and recognition reflected that. Being a "pretty good Korean Terran" is generally fairly high praise, but Heart wasn't known for much other than perhaps being a bit more cheesy than other Terrans at the time. He had a few good MLG events in a row back in 2012, but other than that hasn't had a huge impact on a Premier Tournament. All of that seems to be changing this year, as Heart has dropped his cheesy ways and become a respectable and dangerous dark horse contender.

Heart earned his way to the quarterfinals with some strong upsets and electrifying performances. He was placed into what was unquestionably the group of death in the Ro32 along with last season's champion Hyun, Jaedong, and Jim. Heart started off the group by upsetting Jaedong, and played Hyun close in an exciting series only to fall in the winner's match. However, he was able to take down Jim in the final match to get to the next stage. In the Ro16, Heart gave his most memorable performance in recent memory, as not only did he beat Pigbaby, but he also pulled off the greatest comeback of the season and potentially one of the greatest comebacks in all of Starcraft II against Xigua in game two of the winner's match. It was comparable to Mvp's comebacks against Tefel and INnoVation, and that is high praise indeed.

The good news for Heart here is that his TvZ has been one of the most fearsome in WCS America this season. On his kill list just this year are fearsome ZvT players like Scarlett and Jaedong. However, if there is one type of Zerg player that Heart has struggled marginally against it is a roach focused ZvT player (TSL Zergs) such as Hyun. viOLet showcased some strong roach/hydra timings to take out MajOr in the Ro16, and Heart will have to be prepared for such a TvZ style (on very short notice, as he only found out his opponent 3 days ago). Heart is one of perhaps a few "invisible Terrans" but with TvZ like his he could very well be pushing himself right into the spotlight.

Heart's opponent will be one of the two Korean-adopted-Americans to be playing in the quarterfinals: (Z)viOLet. viOLet is returning from a bit of a hiatus this year, and is attempting to get back to the form that earned him a spot as one of the top five Zerg players in the world back in 2012. His first few appearances in LANs after his hiatus showed a lot of rust and unfamiliarity, as it seemed that viOLet had lost a step after being pushed out of WCS competition in 2013 due to visa issues. However, with a third place finish at the recent MLG Anaheim and now reaching top eight in WCS America, viOLet seems to be coming back with a vengeance.

viOLet perhaps hasn't done anything groundbreaking in this WCS Season, but he has done what is expected of a player like him. He beat puCK and qxc to win his group in the Ro32, and finished second to Taeja by beating MajOr twice in the Ro16. His MLG run was a bit more impressive as he managed to win his pool with a 6-1 record over some stiff competition, and ended up finishing third in a strong field. viOLet certainly has recovered well from being knocked out in Challenger at the beginning of last season. The question is, can he continue to improve at this impressive rate and advance past the Ro8, or has viOLet hit his current cap? Only time will tell.

Unfortunately for viOLet, ZvT has been a matchup that has not been kind to him in recent weeks. Over the past month, viOLet is a disappointing 3-7 in ZvT Bo3's (MajOr is the only Terran that viOLet has beaten, winning over him at Red Bull Battlegrounds and twice in WCS). viOLet looked a rung below Taeja in the Ro16, and Heart has looked merciless in this recent TvZ's. viOLet's roach/hydra play against MajOr did look strong a few days ago, but will it be enough to stop Heart?

Overall Predictions:

Both of these players are currently on a large upswing, as viOLet is looking to reclaim the form he had back in late WoL while Heart is skyrocketing to levels that he has never attained in his entire career. While both of these players have been playing well recently, the thing that I can make a judgement on is the specific matchup that will be played. With Heart's recent TvZ prowess on display and viOLet in a bit of a ZvT slump sans MajOr, I think Heart may very well reach his first ever WCS Semifinal with a win here.

Heart 3-1 viOLet


Alicia vs Bomber



For the second season in a row, (P)Ax.Alicia and (T)RedBull.Bomber will face off in the WCS AM quarterfinals. The last time they met, Alicia managed to escape the ro8 with a narrow 3-2 victory after a tightly contested and quick series of games. To be honest though, those games were quite sloppy and underwhelming coming from two top tier players. Now fate has given them a second chance to make things right and show us what they’re truly capable of. Since both players are known for their inconsistency and volatility, I believe this will be a close series that can swing either way.

From Gangnam all the way to Los Angeles, Alicia has always been considered a solid player but never really a favorite to win a premier tournament. Nevertheless, the Korean Protoss finds ways to surprise us even when the odds and viewers are against him. In 2012, Alicia finished second place at three premier WoL tournaments (2 MLGs and NASL S3). Last season, he quietly made his way to the Ro8 and upset Bomber for his best result of 2014 thus far. Now he is in a position to make a second consecutive semifinal appearance – a result that will surely silence his critics. But despite his modest success, Alicia has yet to capture a premier level title. In this regard, Alicia reminds me of Squirtle: a talented Protoss who has the potential to be a threat but can’t go all the way. That being said, Alicia has played well throughout this WCS season and has a good chance to prove everyone wrong.

Alicia managed to advance from both group stages in first place and has only dropped two maps this entire tournament. It’s understandable that Alicia can be overshadowed by guys like Polt, HyuN, and TaeJa... but come on, seriously? To have those kinds of results and still not be considered a serious contender for the title… something has to be wrong there. Looking at the bracket, if Alicia gets past Bomber and meets viOLet in the semis, then we could be seeing Alicia again at the grand finals. I say this because Alicia defeated four Zergs, including HyuN and NesTea, on his way to the Ro8. However, now is not the time for Alicia to be worried about PvZ; first he must take care of his PvT.

Statistically, PvT is Alicia’s best matchup and there are four Terrans in the Ro8. While that may look favorably on paper, Alicia hasn’t played a Terran of Bomber’s caliber in a televised match for about two months. Therefore, his PvT style and build orders will be difficult to predict. Bomber has to expect the unexpected. The last time they played, Alicia won with a variety of all-ins ranging from voidray + gateway to mass gates off two base. As of now, it’s hard to say whether Alicia will stick to his timings or opt for more standard play. We could see anything from proxy stargate to mass blink stalkers to DT rush – anything to end the game quickly.

Alicia will certainly need to keep some tricks up his sleeve for a player like Bomber. Unlike Alicia, Bomber is someone who has been to the top and knows what it takes to get there. However, it has been a while since he won a major tournament. Bomber’s last taste of glory came in August 2013 at the WCS S2 Grand Finals. Since then, he has switched WCS regions from Korea to America but has yet to win a title under Red Bull. There were high expectations for Bomber to win last season but Bomber’s Law kicked in at the Ro8 and cut his campaign short. There’s just no telling when the Law will decide to rear its ugly head again.

Despite making it to the quarters, Bomber has shown some vulnerability in his recent matches. He had a disappointing 13-16th finish at MLG Anaheim and then barely squeezed through his WCS Ro16 group. Moreover, he doesn’t have many ranked TvP matches under his belt: the last good Protoss he played at a tournament was Stork at HSC. However, on the bright side, Bomber defeated Stork 2-0 with ease and also maintains a 63.4% win rate in PvT – his best matchup on paper. He also looked solid in his Ro32 group when he crushed Crank 2-0, but that was quite a while ago. A lot can change in a few weeks, and Bomber is notoriously inconsistent.

Bomber’s TvP reached it’s peak at the time when Protoss had no answers for the SCV pulls. This style suited Bomber particularly well because he likes to overwhelm his opponents with numbers alone. Actually, this is the way he likes to play in all three matchups. But as Protoss began to develop counters to the SCV pulls, Bomber initially struggled to adapt but eventually solidified his TvP. Now Bomber has learned to incorporate standard TvP with his own unique builds. Against Crank, he went for two early rax and pumped out a bunch of marines which caught the Protoss completely off guard. Bomber is someone who can go for early aggression or fast triple orbital, and he’s also not afraid to occasionally “pull the boys”.

Overall Predictions
This series is difficult to predict because both players have shown inconsistent results and unpredictable play. I believe it would be in Alicia’s best interest to keep the games short because Bomber will be very difficult to stop once he gets his macro going. Therefore, I would expect Alicia to stick with the same game plan from last season: hit the Terran with a flurry of all-ins and keep him on his toes. However, if Bomber has been preparing for this match, he will almost certainly be aware of this possibility. If he scouts well and can identify the builds, then I think he has a good shot of claiming revenge. Will history repeat itself, or will the Law hold off for just one more day?

Bomber 3 - 2 Alicia


Polt vs HyuN



(T)Polt is in many ways one of the founding fathers of SC2. He is one of the few players still alive from the first class that played in GSL Open Season 1 back in 2010. He is the first to have ever used the 1-1-1 in an official match, his first ever official match against MC. Many thought he was the villain when he pointed out Jinro’s weakness in his GSL games. But it wasn’t arrogance as much as the blunt truth. Polt has always been a careful study of his opponents and his meta. That is why he found MMA’s weakness in the Super Tournament Finals. That is why he transformed himself almost overnight from a 1 base rusher to a solid 3 base Terran. It is also why he was one of three players to have thrived during the era of blink stalkers in 2014.

While other Terrans consistently died trying to emulate the impossible micro or instincts of players like Taeja or Maru, Polt side-stepped that problem altogether. Polt understood his own weaknesses as well as his strengths. Polt just doesn’t have strong macro. He has decent enough macro to stay in the game. His battle micro is okay to above average (He suffers in large engagements but is superb in small skirmishes). What Polt is amazing at is tactical decision making. He forces his will upon the field and controls his enemy with feints, backstabs, surrounds and clutch decision making. How many times have we seen Polt pull out a comeback after taking a disadvantage in the early or mid game? Over a dozen times in just HotS alone by my count.

It is that intelligence, that force of will that separates Polt from the rest of his race. Others have come close to this style (most notably Ryung on long maps like Whirlwind or Red City), but none have been able to do it so consistently at the top level of competition. And that is why it is so easy to root for Polt. He often finds himself on the losing side of the game early on, but he forces the game into a battle of army movement. A battle of tactical decision making. And he wins again and again and again leaving the spectators in awe of his tactical genius. Last year, several of his games were included in the Best Games of the Year, and for some reason they were mostly nervy base trades from a disadvantage, only to win.

It is that gameplay that captured our imaginations. But it was his out of game actions that have solidified him as the figurehead of WCS NA. He moved to America, plays in America, learns English. In his first few seasons of WCS NA he was playing SC2, going to school and had a part-time job for months on end. In interviews he answers questions with his infectious charm and smile. When he wins he waves the Navy Jack in celebration. He has even cast WCS live in English. What started out as ironic chants of USA USA has become sincere chants of love and admiration for a player that is amazing both in and out of game. He is a player, a personality and even casted on his birthday. He is the darling of America and the player America loves the most.

Despite that seemingly overwhelming popularity, he faces an opponent that entertains almost as much as he does. (Z)HyuN is a showman. He has been all his pro gaming life. In BW he had a famous ceremony that had him walking in drunk to group ceremonies. In SC2 he walked into ComicCon cosplaying as Spider-man (much to DRG’s embarrassment). While just a funny moment that was forgotten later, that moment of the two of them walking on has always struck me as an important revelation of Hyun’s character.

No matter the game, no matter the situation Hyun will always be Hyun. He is comfortable with who he is, where he stands and how he plays. It’s why he wears an assortment of crazy pants. It’s why when the entire Zerg world moved on in ZvP to Swarmhosts and Muta-Corruptor while he alone stuck to the mass aggressive tech switches of early HotS. When nearly every zerg player in the world plays muta ling/bling he stuck religiously to the roach hydra builds. When asked why, he said it was because he liked to play that way. He found it fun.

And Hyun can make it work. He forces it to work because his instinctual sense of what the opponent will do next is second to none. His macro is some of the best in the world. And most importantly, he has some of the best mini-map awareness of any zerg which, coupled with his instincts and macro, ensures that his mass tech switches are the most deadly in the scene. When Hyun plays it feels like a force of nature: an overwhelming cyclone that smashes everything in its path.

Overall Predictions:

This will be a battle between the old WCS NA Champion and the current WCS NA Champion. The fight between Polt’s resilience and intelligence against Hyun’s instincts and brute force. And a fight between two ex-teammates. The deciding factor will be if Polt has learned anything from his last fight with Hyun. If he has formulated a counter strategy then he can take it. If not, Hyun will probably move on to the semi-finals.

Hyun 3-2 Polt


TaeJa vs Pigbaby



The final match of the night looks to be the most one sided on paper as Liquid'(T)TaeJa, who has won his last 26 Premier Tournament maps, is challenged by Pigbaby whose only appearances since leaving Jin Air have come in WCS America. And while Pigbaby has performed impressively here so far, almost anyone would look like an underdog against TaeJa in his current shape.

You must be getting tired of reading this every single time we write a preview about TaeJa but have you noticed what time of the year it is? I know, I know. We should probably find something fresh. Then again, if it ain't broke... And it most definitely ain't broke. The only reason why you are reading about TaeJa's summer over and over is because he just won't stop winning. In fact, he has not lost a game since the 10th of June when Innovation beat him 2-1 in the Dragon Invitational. A Dreamhack and a WCS America group later he has now amassed a 21 map winstreak. And to find the last best-of series that TaeJa has dropped to a protoss you have to dig even deeper: four months ago, sOs beat him 3-1 on his way to a 100k prize check. TaeJa is running hot and anyone he faces will have to play the series of a lifetime to take him down.

His recent success has even sparked the revival of a debate as old as StarCraft itself - "who's the best terran in the world?". Maru has had that title secured for a while now and even though that still seems to be the consensus in the community, TaeJa's runs have at least managed to make a few threads pop up, even though they are usually buried again rather quickly. But I guarantee you: if TaeJa keeps on going, more and more are going to appear. And they will stay open longer and longer.

A common argument against TaeJa is that he "earns his money by beating second class Koreans and foreigners". However, if we look at his recent victims - Jaedong, HerO, Oz, MC for example - these are players that can compete with the best, believe it or not. Yes, GSL Code S is and probably forever will be the toughest tournament in the entire world. But if TaeJa wins WCS America in the same fashion he won the last HSC and Dreamhack - and anything else would probably mean disappointment for him - he might have a legitimate say in the discussion. And a prime opportunity to prove himself one last time at Blizzcon.

You almost have to feel sorry for (P)Pigbaby. Against anyone else left in the competition he probably would not have been as severe an underdog. He would not be favored against Hyun, Polt or Bomber but I could at least present a more positive outlook on the series if he was playing against either of them. As it stands, the only way I see Pigbaby taking any maps off TaeJa at all is if he manages to trick him. TaeJa, like many other terrans, has experienced his fair share of map losses to various protoss all ins. Summer TaeJa has an uncanny ability to know exactly what's going on at all times, but the way he simply chokes players to death in a macro game, especially in TvP, should scare Pigbaby a whole lot more.

To be fair to him though, I have to note that his performance in WCS America has been admirable so far. He only dropped two maps in total to reach Premier League where he went on to impressively beat Revival and Huk to take first place in a stacked group that also included Liquid'HerO. The only series he has lost ever since leaving Jin Air unfortunately happened the last time he played a terran - against Heart in the Ro16. Nevertheless, Pigbaby tenaciously fought his way through Oz and XiGua to reach the Ro8 after all.

Ironically, his win record over the last four months is almost as high as TaeJa's, the only difference being that Pigbaby has played a total of 10 series over that period... against TaeJa's 34 Bo3+ series. But unless Pigbaby's absence has concealed far greater strength than he has shown so far, his win-loss ratio is likely to suffer drastically at the hands of TaeJa.

Overall Predictions:

I don't think TaeJa loses a map. That may sound drastic and discredit Pigbaby's impressive run in WCS America, but it took a championship-winning sOs to defeat a much weaker TaeJa to ring a Bo5 off him. With HerO, MC, Patience, Oz and Arthur among his recent murders, I consider TaeJa to be much, much stronger now than he was at IEM Katowice and with all due respect, sOs is a level above Pigbaby. I'd be happy if he managed to give TaeJa a run for his money or even score an upset but I don't think TaeJa will falter.

TaeJa 3 - 0 Pigbaby

Writers: Darkhorse, XXTN, stuchiu, DarkLordOlli
Photos: ESL.
Editors: lichter.
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
July 05 2014 18:58 GMT
#2
praise the passion
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Varroth
Profile Joined April 2014
Sweden471 Posts
July 05 2014 18:59 GMT
#3
Wait WCS America isnt today? I was told it would be the same day was Europe Ro8 and they even said it on the stream ''After Stardust vs First dont worry about not seeing any starcraft action as WCS America will begin shortly after Europe today'' or something along the lines of that.
Top10 favorite players: 1. Jaedong 2. Naniwa 3. Maru 4. ThorZaIN 5. Taeja 6. HerO 7. MC 8. Hyun 9. Soulkey 10. herO
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
July 05 2014 19:05 GMT
#4
On July 06 2014 03:59 Varroth wrote:
Wait WCS America isnt today? I was told it would be the same day was Europe Ro8 and they even said it on the stream ''After Stardust vs First dont worry about not seeing any starcraft action as WCS America will begin shortly after Europe today'' or something along the lines of that.

It is today
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 05 2014 19:06 GMT
#5
On July 06 2014 04:05 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 03:59 Varroth wrote:
Wait WCS America isnt today? I was told it would be the same day was Europe Ro8 and they even said it on the stream ''After Stardust vs First dont worry about not seeing any starcraft action as WCS America will begin shortly after Europe today'' or something along the lines of that.

It is today

So both the countdown here and Liquipedia are wrong? (Maybe they're the same source?)
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 05 2014 19:08 GMT
#6
On July 06 2014 03:59 Varroth wrote:
Wait WCS America isnt today?


sleep deprived plz4giv
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
July 05 2014 19:08 GMT
#7
On July 06 2014 04:06 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 04:05 Darkhorse wrote:
On July 06 2014 03:59 Varroth wrote:
Wait WCS America isnt today? I was told it would be the same day was Europe Ro8 and they even said it on the stream ''After Stardust vs First dont worry about not seeing any starcraft action as WCS America will begin shortly after Europe today'' or something along the lines of that.

It is today

So both the countdown here and Liquipedia are wrong? (Maybe they're the same source?)

I believe so. Should be starting in 3 hours. Unless I'm an idiot?
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Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
July 05 2014 19:09 GMT
#8
Lets say all Terrans advance.
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Varroth
Profile Joined April 2014
Sweden471 Posts
July 05 2014 19:15 GMT
#9
On July 06 2014 04:08 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 03:59 Varroth wrote:
Wait WCS America isnt today?


sleep deprived plz4giv


Oh that explains it! Of course you're forgiven ^^
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
July 05 2014 19:24 GMT
#10
TaeJa 10-0
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kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
July 05 2014 19:25 GMT
#11
Heart
Bomber
Polt
Taeja

Bomber
Polt

Polt is NA Champion
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
July 05 2014 19:32 GMT
#12
LOL, as soon as I saw it i knew it was a Meru piece! :DD
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 05 2014 19:33 GMT
#13
Hope all the terrans lose so lots of people are sad
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Zenith_Zaephyr
Profile Joined March 2013
13 Posts
July 05 2014 19:33 GMT
#14
On July 06 2014 04:25 kaykoose wrote:
Heart
Bomber
Polt
Taeja

Bomber
Polt

Polt is NA Champion


This guy is probably Terran...

I wish your hopes won't be smashed by another race.... (Go Hyun !)
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Axxis
Profile Joined May 2010
United States133 Posts
July 05 2014 19:35 GMT
#15
On July 06 2014 04:25 kaykoose wrote:
Heart
Bomber
Polt
Taeja

Bomber
Polt

Polt is NA Champion


Honestly, I don't think your too far off here. I would say that violet has a chance to win against heart but polt should take hyun so tvt tvt semi's is a very real possibility.
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DeadByDawn
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom476 Posts
July 05 2014 19:43 GMT
#16
Yes please a TvT, preferably with Polt or Taeja in the final. Last time I saw a TvT the Jetsons was still on TV.
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
July 05 2014 19:46 GMT
#17
Could be a good day for Terran.. finally..
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AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
July 05 2014 19:46 GMT
#18
Heart
Alicia
Hyun
Taeja

Heart
Taeja

Heart is the NA Champion
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
Gullis
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden740 Posts
July 05 2014 19:48 GMT
#19
as long as all terrans advance I am happy
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Profile Joined September 2011
United States271 Posts
July 05 2014 20:12 GMT
#20
Head:
Heart over viOLet
Alicia over Bomber
Polt over Hyun
TaeJa over Pigbaby

Heart over Alicia
TaeJa over Polt

TaeJa over Heart

Heart (lol heart):
Heart over viOLet
Bomber over Alica
Polt over Hyun
TaeJa over Pigbaby

Bomber over Heart
Polt over TaeJa

Bomber over Polt
The Devil Terran - The Ambitious Terran - The Towel Terran - The Macro Master Terran - The Tyrant
ANLProbe
Profile Joined October 2013
667 Posts
July 05 2014 20:24 GMT
#21
I think HyuN will smash Polt. Polt's TvZ is extremely mediocre nowadays.
Go TAEJA
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
July 05 2014 20:28 GMT
#22
On July 06 2014 05:24 ANLProbe wrote:
I think HyuN will smash Polt. Polt's TvZ is extremely mediocre nowadays.


Mediocre is underestimating Polt imo. Don't forget he lives with Violet too and I'm sure they both have been practicing an insane amount of TvZ together in preparation for today.
JD, need I say more? :D
MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
July 05 2014 20:37 GMT
#23
Gotta compliment the writers for this article: generally all the previews are good, but this one shines out with passion and objectivity at the same time.
Really enjoied reading all the four sections.
This said...
Heart > Violet due to his proficiency at the matchup
Alicia > Bomber unless our beloved terran decides to scout more, I'm expecting the unexpected with Alicia today
Taeja > Pigbaby
And whatever Polt and Hyun goes, the viewers will be rewarded by great games.
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asongdotnet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1060 Posts
July 05 2014 20:50 GMT
#24
won't be there today but hoping to get some more good pics tmrw!
Pino
Profile Joined June 2013
1032 Posts
July 05 2014 21:13 GMT
#25
When I see Taeja micromanaging his bio, i wonder if his marine do not have 125 hp sometimes. It's just crazy he hasn't won yet WCS AM, i hope it's his time
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
July 05 2014 21:33 GMT
#26
On July 06 2014 04:46 AWalker9 wrote:
Heart
Alicia
Hyun
Taeja

Heart
Taeja

Heart is the NA Champion

Ooh, so close. You missed that last one though.
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Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
July 05 2014 21:36 GMT
#27
Whatever the results are, the games will be incredible i think. It's by far - imo- the best WCS NA bracket we have had so far.
Hoping for hyun or a full terran ro4, that'd be cool^^
ForGG. 29/11/2014
MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-06 00:51:56
July 06 2014 00:51 GMT
#28
nvm wrong thread
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MysterySC
Profile Joined October 2012
Andorra109 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-06 02:21:55
July 06 2014 01:00 GMT
#29
Good write up but Taeja is still winning tournaments by beating tier 2 koreans... JD, Hero and oZ are nowhere near Code S caliber. I have no doubt that Taeja could be Code S if he wanted to but he's not. If he wants Maru or Inno respect he should do something worth while.
<3 Hyvaa
Axxis
Profile Joined May 2010
United States133 Posts
July 06 2014 01:59 GMT
#30
I would say Taeja=Innovation. There was a time that would have sounded crazy but atm i don't think so. JD is code S material and hero isn't far from it when he's on. All round, comparing all matchups, he's as solid as myungsik/squirtle.
What we obtain too cheaply; we esteem too lightly. It is in dearness only that gives everything it's value.
MysterySC
Profile Joined October 2012
Andorra109 Posts
July 06 2014 02:24 GMT
#31
Did you see squirtle play last season? i really doubt he's back in Code S next season. Any reason you think JD is code S material? he gets knocked out of every tourney by RO16, RO32 NA and EU koreans. Why would he do better in Code S? Hero has lost to Huk the past 2 RO32s, i love Huk but he's not Code S and with the protoss caliber of WCS kr these days how would he have a hope to make it even into the tourney...
<3 Hyvaa
Axxis
Profile Joined May 2010
United States133 Posts
July 06 2014 02:53 GMT
#32
I'm saying solid, all around play, all matchups. PvP is volatile and shit happens but ya, you're probably right about hero. He really isnt code s material anymore but I just had to make a point about myungsik/squirtle.

JD has had some rough losses but we see this all the time with all the top players. Premier tournaments always see upsets and people get knocked out. Then they'll come back and go to the finals in the next. Once again, I'm not saying JD is a contender or anything but I think he could make it into code s if he didnt hit a hard group/bracket.

Korean protoss...yea...there are so many that are so damn good it's scary. People think toss is OP right now bc of korea but damn there are lots of good toss players. Most of these guys have been around for years practicing their ass of and playing in the toughest meta. No wonder they perform well.
What we obtain too cheaply; we esteem too lightly. It is in dearness only that gives everything it's value.
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
July 06 2014 03:14 GMT
#33
I think everyone's predictions just got annihilated
Trans Rights
Axxis
Profile Joined May 2010
United States133 Posts
July 06 2014 03:14 GMT
#34
and as I try to take up for my wcs NA players, pigbaby 3-0's Taeja, LOL. We don't have a player one that could make it into code a.........
What we obtain too cheaply; we esteem too lightly. It is in dearness only that gives everything it's value.
tjtombo
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States295 Posts
July 06 2014 03:15 GMT
#35
On July 06 2014 10:00 MysterySC wrote:
Good write up but Taeja is still winning tournaments by beating tier 2 koreans... JD, Hero and oZ are nowhere near Code S caliber. I have no doubt that Taeja could be Code S if he wanted to but he's not. If he wants Maru or Inno respect he should do something worth while.

Right, the player who just clean swept a tournament needs to "do something worthwhile". Your logic does not compute.
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard
Hadi2289
Profile Joined December 2013
Germany27 Posts
July 06 2014 03:15 GMT
#36
Dark Horses are still better than Trains. Dark Horse Pigbaby killed the TaeJa train and i loved it. 3-0 baby!
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
July 06 2014 04:13 GMT
#37
Man you guys sure got that Taeja prediction right
KT FlaSh FOREVER
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-06 04:19:47
July 06 2014 04:18 GMT
#38
On July 06 2014 12:14 Axxis wrote:
and as I try to take up for my wcs NA players, pigbaby 3-0's Taeja, LOL. We don't have a player one that could make it into code a.........


you got all that from Taeja going 0-3?

Hack and Ryung made code A when going back. Currently both code B, but so are a lot of Terrans.

Byul bombed in ro32 AM. Then he went back to Korea to be one of the top players of SPL and immediately make code S.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Picasso
Profile Joined October 2013
Korea (South)52 Posts
July 06 2014 04:28 GMT
#39
Pigbaby was a KeSPA Protoss (formerly Jin Air). He left the team to go solo due to his lack of coverage & opportunities to play matches (cuz the team is too stacked). Everyone underestimated him massively, including TaeJa, and TaeJa ended up paying his price. On top of that, he didn't go for various styles of play; he came out with his own flavor (producing 7-8 observers) and didn't use stuff that everyone cries about, such as oracles or storms. Anybody that plays TvP at a decent level knows that a zealot heavy composition isn't the typical toss deathball (due to zealots getting hard-countered by kiting), but he made it work. Nobody can discredit his 3-0 victory.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
July 06 2014 04:42 GMT
#40
On July 06 2014 12:14 Axxis wrote:
and as I try to take up for my wcs NA players, pigbaby 3-0's Taeja, LOL. We don't have a player one that could make it into code a.........

aLive just made code a and he was beaten badly by Suppy in Challenger
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jeri
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany335 Posts
July 06 2014 08:42 GMT
#41
taeja 0.3 vs pigbaby?!? srsly?!? my world is shattered...
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CNSnow
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Greece67 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-06 08:54:50
July 06 2014 08:53 GMT
#42
You almost have to feel sorry for (P)Pigbaby.....


Plus the 3-0 prediction, while Pigbaby was at Jin Air a few months ago, seem hilarious to me and the outcome wasn't as unexpected as you think.

While Teaja is a sold Terran and he is really good, we can not ignore the fact that he still wins tournaments that are full of EU players and low tier koreans (there are some exceptions, but very few and these are the most challenging matches that define the champion). There is a reason why he doesn't compete in Code S.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13972 Posts
July 06 2014 09:24 GMT
#43
WCS AM ded look at that ro4 wanted alicia violet polt taeja
got the opposite...
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Mojito99
Profile Joined October 2013
Germany154 Posts
July 06 2014 14:14 GMT
#44
On July 06 2014 13:28 Picasso wrote:
Pigbaby was a KeSPA Protoss (formerly Jin Air). He left the team to go solo due to his lack of coverage & opportunities to play matches (cuz the team is too stacked). Everyone underestimated him massively, including TaeJa, and TaeJa ended up paying his price. On top of that, he didn't go for various styles of play; he came out with his own flavor (producing 7-8 observers) and didn't use stuff that everyone cries about, such as oracles or storms. Anybody that plays TvP at a decent level knows that a zealot heavy composition isn't the typical toss deathball (due to zealots getting hard-countered by kiting), but he made it work. Nobody can discredit his 3-0 victory.


this playstyle has actually been the norm for the past 2-3 months, double upgrades, no storm before 20 min, mass zealots
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1478 Posts
July 07 2014 07:36 GMT
#45
This little piggy... won WCS :D.

Way to go.
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
July 07 2014 08:38 GMT
#46
Seen the matches, Pigbaby pretty good :D On his way to wreck NA.
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