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Lockz
Profile Joined October 2013
United States27 Posts
July 01 2014 09:51 GMT
#121
Best of luck JYP!
"Sometimes we all have to pick up our swords" Bregor
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3751 Posts
July 01 2014 10:04 GMT
#122
On July 01 2014 05:14 Josh_Video wrote:
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On July 01 2014 04:20 ReboundEU wrote:
- HuK...ever since he won MLG like 2 years ago or whatever..he has dropped really abruptly. That was like his last major win..he had a huge bang and then "gone"...went from over 9000 to 0 in 1 day. I swear with no bad intention, but each and every single time i catch him playing in competitions i see him lose.... if not..9/10 losses. I am starting to question that win he had in MLG personally. U can't win a huge and one of the most packed events at that time MLG and just drop out soooo brutally right after. IMO something is up with that.


Are you implying HuK either cheated or there was some sort of conspiracy? Well, first time for everything i guess.

Yeah, that assumption of ReboundEU is so stupid.

HuK won MLG Orlando but he didn't just drop. At Providence he was 5th - behind Leenock, NaNiwa, DRG and Mvp. It was excellent result and if it wasn't for NaNiwa's stellar performance, HuK would be the most remembered foreigner there. He was also 3rd at MLG Winter Arena and 4th at MLG Winter Championship - best foreigner at both events (NaNi was 2nd best at both - tied for 7th/8th).

The result is also consistent with HuK's GSL performance. Orlando was in October. In November HuK topped his Ro32 Code S group but in Ro16 he was 3rd, dropped to Code A Ro24 where he lost to KeeN 2-0 (december) then in Up & Down (later in december) he went 1-3 winning only his game against Alicia and losing PvZs vs Monster and Lucky and PvT vs NaDa. After that it was presence without any success in GSL after which he left. So I'd say his results are very consistent. Orlando was definitely a tournament Code S Round of 8 player was able to win. But a player who fall out of Code A wasn't really that strong.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
July 01 2014 10:07 GMT
#123
On July 01 2014 11:10 juicyjames wrote:
to Prime?

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Pretty sure it's a joke, but it would be nice tho
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
July 01 2014 10:17 GMT
#124
On July 01 2014 18:41 Mahtasooma wrote:
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On July 01 2014 02:11 URLateral wrote:
You need to update that roster to only show Jaedong and ur good.


Internet win of the day award


Well i heard they had 3 new players

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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26224 Posts
July 01 2014 10:24 GMT
#125
Argh, I feel they dropped the ball in making the most of their Korean pickups, albeit I don't really know much about the internal goings on. JYP and Oz are among my favourite Protosses and Revival and Alive got to remind everyone what they can do.

Best of luck to both parties in the future
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
July 01 2014 10:29 GMT
#126
"Words cannot express gratitude."
sounds like it's from Spartacus (the Starz series).
azzih
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany98 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 11:18:17
July 01 2014 11:17 GMT
#127
He wasnt important to EG anyways. When did he last show anything from importance? Must have been a long time ago. EG should build a new SC2 Squad, just keep incontrol and Demuslim and maybe Suppy and Jaedong. Fire the lazy rest and sign new talented guys that are willing to actually do something for their money or somehow add a certain value to the EG brand.
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SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
July 01 2014 11:23 GMT
#128
Imho EG needs to find someone asap.
Vasacast always in my <3
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 01 2014 11:26 GMT
#129
On July 01 2014 20:17 azzih wrote:
He wasnt important to EG anyways. When did he last show anything from importance? Must have been a long time ago. EG should build a new SC2 Squad, just keep incontrol and Demuslim and maybe Suppy and Jaedong. Fire the lazy rest and sign new talented guys that are willing to actually do something for their money or somehow add a certain value to the EG brand.


Why would EG keep Demuslim if they wanted to build a new winning squad?
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RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
July 01 2014 12:04 GMT
#130
Only one Korean left in EG. And I thought 1-2 years ago that the foreigners of EG were the ones in danger!
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 12:26:37
July 01 2014 12:25 GMT
#131
On July 01 2014 20:26 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
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On July 01 2014 20:17 azzih wrote:
He wasnt important to EG anyways. When did he last show anything from importance? Must have been a long time ago. EG should build a new SC2 Squad, just keep incontrol and Demuslim and maybe Suppy and Jaedong. Fire the lazy rest and sign new talented guys that are willing to actually do something for their money or somehow add a certain value to the EG brand.


Why would EG keep Demuslim if they wanted to build a new winning squad?

Winning squad? As far I know, they only pick polarized and/or favored players in sc2. I am not sure about other games, but at wc3 they rather picked winning/top (results) players than everything else.
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SirPinky
Profile Joined February 2011
United States525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 13:54:12
July 01 2014 13:50 GMT
#132
On July 01 2014 09:01 Zealously wrote:
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On July 01 2014 08:35 iNcontroL wrote:
On July 01 2014 06:38 SirPinky wrote:
With the exception of Jaedong, why does the EG roster look like a group of tranditionally underperforming players, occupied school students, or "wannabe" casters? Don't get me wrong, I think these guys are great, but it does not look like a high level team anymore.

EG roster :
DeMusliM - Wannabe caster and continuously underperforming. White-ra (who most consider retired) beat him in the last HSC.
HuK - defeated by Sjaac first round of MLG
iNcontroL - Wannabe caster more than player
Jaedong - Only high level EG player (imo)
Suppy - Student - fulltime school at UC Berkeley
ThorZaIN - Student
Xenocider - Very young and I'm still perplexed with this EG pickup. I don't know the last thing he has won or even participated.


What the fuck is a "wannabe caster" ? How are people like you even around?


Someone who wants to be a caster I guess

I mean technically he's not wrong, you do want to cast, don't you?



I think Incontrol is taking this too personally; especially for someone that wants to be a public figure. Zealously is correct, my criticism comes that you want to cast more than play. Is that inaccurate? I recall an interview documentary the CFO of EG management noting you were under contract as a player and you were entitled to pursue other opportunities once the contract ended. But he stressed EG's main focus is to make money - they run a business based on players (not a media casting center). I'm not going to presume I know what is going on at EG based on one interview and documentary, but given Incontrol's public appearances and, admittedly, less time to practice as a player, what would he/you like to be called?

And "why are people like me around"? I'm a person who has put thousands of dollars into sponsoring private tournaments and showmatches for the love of the game. I am also someone who rents the "GG" documentary and indirectly supports people like you and EG. I am a fan of the game. So let's not forget the Idra incident and learn from it when comments are made, "how are people like you even around." It is pretty much saying the same thing (less the expetives). My comments, which one might perceive as "harsh", held some level of merit given the current state of the EG roster. Sorry for bringing a raw reality from a publics perspective. Or would you perfer I just use the classic "Goodluck <insert happyface/emoticon>"?
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qapuk
Profile Joined January 2011
United States71 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 14:09:24
July 01 2014 14:09 GMT
#133
what team is stephano on now? the search function says EG, but he isnt listed above
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
July 01 2014 14:12 GMT
#134
On July 01 2014 23:09 qapuk wrote:
what team is stephano on now? the search function says EG, but he isnt listed above

meltdown, i guess
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 14:15:11
July 01 2014 14:12 GMT
#135
On July 01 2014 23:09 qapuk wrote:
what team is stephano on now? the search function says EG, but he isnt listed above

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Meltdown

(Fixed it on TLPD)
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 01 2014 15:13 GMT
#136
On July 01 2014 22:50 SirPinky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 09:01 Zealously wrote:
On July 01 2014 08:35 iNcontroL wrote:
On July 01 2014 06:38 SirPinky wrote:
With the exception of Jaedong, why does the EG roster look like a group of tranditionally underperforming players, occupied school students, or "wannabe" casters? Don't get me wrong, I think these guys are great, but it does not look like a high level team anymore.

EG roster :
DeMusliM - Wannabe caster and continuously underperforming. White-ra (who most consider retired) beat him in the last HSC.
HuK - defeated by Sjaac first round of MLG
iNcontroL - Wannabe caster more than player
Jaedong - Only high level EG player (imo)
Suppy - Student - fulltime school at UC Berkeley
ThorZaIN - Student
Xenocider - Very young and I'm still perplexed with this EG pickup. I don't know the last thing he has won or even participated.


What the fuck is a "wannabe caster" ? How are people like you even around?


Someone who wants to be a caster I guess

I mean technically he's not wrong, you do want to cast, don't you?



I think Incontrol is taking this too personally; especially for someone that wants to be a public figure. Zealously is correct, my criticism comes that you want to cast more than play. Is that inaccurate? I recall an interview documentary the CFO of EG management noting you were under contract as a player and you were entitled to pursue other opportunities once the contract ended. But he stressed EG's main focus is to make money - they run a business based on players (not a media casting center). I'm not going to presume I know what is going on at EG based on one interview and documentary, but given Incontrol's public appearances and, admittedly, less time to practice as a player, what would he/you like to be called?

And "why are people like me around"? I'm a person who has put thousands of dollars into sponsoring private tournaments and showmatches for the love of the game. I am also someone who rents the "GG" documentary and indirectly supports people like you and EG. I am a fan of the game. So let's not forget the Idra incident and learn from it when comments are made, "how are people like you even around." It is pretty much saying the same thing (less the expetives). My comments, which one might perceive as "harsh", held some level of merit given the current state of the EG roster. Sorry for bringing a raw reality from a publics perspective. Or would you perfer I just use the classic "Goodluck <insert happyface/emoticon>"?


The doc you are referencing but have no specific idea about was filmed in 2011
. I have since been casting year round at most of the major events ranging from lone star clash to blizzcon. "Wannabe" has a negative ring to it and all your bullshit about adding a "real perspective" becomes self-important dribble when you can't string together two accurate sentences to what you are adding "perspective" on.

Save the "I rented the doc so I'm supporting you" bull crap btw. Supporting me indirectly doesn't give you some kind of priveledge to be a douche and then lecture me on how defenseless I am because you shell out money to rent docs.
Idra called the entire fan base idiots.. I'm singling you out because you are trying to pass outdated info as some kind of accurate criticism and then getting uppity when your post gets responded to.
azzih
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany98 Posts
July 01 2014 15:22 GMT
#137
On July 01 2014 22:50 SirPinky wrote:

I think Incontrol is taking this too personally; especially for someone that wants to be a public figure. Zealously is correct, my criticism comes that you want to cast more than play. Is that inaccurate? I recall an interview documentary the CFO of EG management noting you were under contract as a player and you were entitled to pursue other opportunities once the contract ended. But he stressed EG's main focus is to make money - they run a business based on players (not a media casting center). I'm not going to presume I know what is going on at EG based on one interview and documentary, but given Incontrol's public appearances and, admittedly, less time to practice as a player, what would he/you like to be called?


EG gets money from their sponsors, and their goal is to get their names and products advertised. Incontrol does more for that than any player in EG's roster, due to his prominent caster role.

Also he may practice 10 hours per day and still wouldnt be a top-top player. He's just not that talented in this game and with 28 hes maybe also too old. But as a caster he can look back at a really rich gaming experience, hes funny and i like his direct talking. So he does the best with his talents and i personally really like his casting. So if i were incontrol i would also be pissed if someone calls me at my job a "wannabe", especially if i put a lot of time and passion in it.
Germany
SirPinky
Profile Joined February 2011
United States525 Posts
July 01 2014 16:23 GMT
#138
On July 02 2014 00:13 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 22:50 SirPinky wrote:
On July 01 2014 09:01 Zealously wrote:
On July 01 2014 08:35 iNcontroL wrote:
On July 01 2014 06:38 SirPinky wrote:
With the exception of Jaedong, why does the EG roster look like a group of tranditionally underperforming players, occupied school students, or "wannabe" casters? Don't get me wrong, I think these guys are great, but it does not look like a high level team anymore.

EG roster :
DeMusliM - Wannabe caster and continuously underperforming. White-ra (who most consider retired) beat him in the last HSC.
HuK - defeated by Sjaac first round of MLG
iNcontroL - Wannabe caster more than player
Jaedong - Only high level EG player (imo)
Suppy - Student - fulltime school at UC Berkeley
ThorZaIN - Student
Xenocider - Very young and I'm still perplexed with this EG pickup. I don't know the last thing he has won or even participated.


What the fuck is a "wannabe caster" ? How are people like you even around?


Someone who wants to be a caster I guess

I mean technically he's not wrong, you do want to cast, don't you?



I think Incontrol is taking this too personally; especially for someone that wants to be a public figure. Zealously is correct, my criticism comes that you want to cast more than play. Is that inaccurate? I recall an interview documentary the CFO of EG management noting you were under contract as a player and you were entitled to pursue other opportunities once the contract ended. But he stressed EG's main focus is to make money - they run a business based on players (not a media casting center). I'm not going to presume I know what is going on at EG based on one interview and documentary, but given Incontrol's public appearances and, admittedly, less time to practice as a player, what would he/you like to be called?

And "why are people like me around"? I'm a person who has put thousands of dollars into sponsoring private tournaments and showmatches for the love of the game. I am also someone who rents the "GG" documentary and indirectly supports people like you and EG. I am a fan of the game. So let's not forget the Idra incident and learn from it when comments are made, "how are people like you even around." It is pretty much saying the same thing (less the expetives). My comments, which one might perceive as "harsh", held some level of merit given the current state of the EG roster. Sorry for bringing a raw reality from a publics perspective. Or would you perfer I just use the classic "Goodluck <insert happyface/emoticon>"?


The doc you are referencing but have no specific idea about was filmed in 2011
. I have since been casting year round at most of the major events ranging from lone star clash to blizzcon. "Wannabe" has a negative ring to it and all your bullshit about adding a "real perspective" becomes self-important dribble when you can't string together two accurate sentences to what you are adding "perspective" on.

Save the "I rented the doc so I'm supporting you" bull crap btw. Supporting me indirectly doesn't give you some kind of priveledge to be a douche and then lecture me on how defenseless I am because you shell out money to rent docs.
Idra called the entire fan base idiots.. I'm singling you out because you are trying to pass outdated info as some kind of accurate criticism and then getting uppity when your post gets responded to.


Interpret it how you want. And I'm not the one getting "uppity" and using profanity, calling people "douches." I thought you would be more articulate as an English major. You still haven't answered the question: I said "wannabe" because you are either a player or a caster. Which one are you? Or, to be more clear, which one do you want to pursue more? It is clear there is not enough hours in the day to do both. That is like me wanting to be a doctor and a fire fighter at the same time. That dream died when i was 5, I guess. The funny part is I actually like your casting. It seems you are a little over sensitive on the subject. I would hope someone who is in the public spotlight as much as you would have thicker skin. If you can't answer that question directly, then I would suggest you go into politics.
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Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 01 2014 16:43 GMT
#139
Holy shit
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
July 01 2014 16:50 GMT
#140
Don't be a douchebag Incontrol pls.
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