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Classic wins GSL Code S Season 2

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Classic wins GSL Code S Season 2

Text bylichter
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June 30th, 2014 14:12 GMT
2013 GSL Season 2

GSL Season Two
Code S Finals



Brackets and standings on Liquipedia

Code S Finals: Classic vs soO


by lichter

After six years of watching friends and teammates become champions, waiting in the sidelines to lift them up in celebration, (P)Classic has finally earned his leading man status as the Code S Season 2 champion by defeating soO 4 - 2 in an exciting series.

His time on eSTRO as a number 1 draft pick in Brood War was never considered a success, and his transfer to STX similarly saw him fail to live up to the lofty expectations placed upon him. The switch to SC2 was supposed to be a lifeline for the talented former Terran, but once again his friends and teammates achieved greatness before him. Even after his switch to Protoss, his success in Proleague was just a footnote in the warpath that was INnoVation. The past two champions, Zest and Dear, had actually been unheralded players on a struggling eSTRO team, and it must have stoked a great fire within Classic to hear them bathed in applause and watch them glean at their reflections on their trophies.

But now, (P)Classic knows exactly how it feels.

4

Classic

(P)Classic <King Sejong Station> (Z)soO
(P)Classic <Alterzim Stronghold> (Z)soO
(P)Classic <Frost> (Z)soO
(P)Classic <Habitation Station> (Z)soO
(P)Classic <Overgrowth> (Z)soO
(P)Classic <Merry Go Round> (Z)soO
(P)Classic <Waystation> (Z)soO
2

soO



And yet, for some reason, it still feels like a footnote, this time to (Z)soO's ascendance to SC2's greatest Kong.

The story of the long suffering squad player finally succeeding has been played out more times than we can remember, and Classic's place as the third straight first-time Protoss champion has diluted whatever compelling narrative that could be spun from his finest day as a progamer. Yet that does not change the fact that this was a special moment for one of the most improved players since the release of Heart of the Swarm.

He played out the series brilliantly by winning 4 games to 2, with each of his wins looking dominant and untroubled. On King Sejong Station, Classic showed army movement and positioning that drew first blood after a failed proxy oracle. His ability to move around the map at the right place at the right time, pinpointing the best bases to assault and sacrificing a worthwhile number of units, allowed him to strangle soO like few Protosses have been able to manage. His killer instinct and positioning once again proved decisive on Frost, with his attack through the bridge forcing soO to defend poorly when he could have retreated. Only a missing observer gave soO a glint of hope, but a blink on top of swarm hosts wiped out the only advantage Zerg had. soO would delay until Brood Lords, but another incisive blink spelled his doom.

The series would be tied at 2 apiece after 4 games however, as soO fought back in both Games 2 and 4. Speedling runbys were crucial in both victories, as a wayward zealot opened the floodgates on Alterzim to constantly draw back Classic's pressuring army. This gave soO enough time to amass an ideal ultra-queen-infestor-corruptor army to counter Classic's stalkers, colossus and voidrays, and a poorly executed attack on creep meant Classic had no avenue for escape and no remax available. It was a different sort of speedling attack that changed the game in soO's favor on Habitation Station. Facing a potential 1-3 deficit, soO held off early zealot stalker pressure before punishing Classic's greedy attempt at taking the gold with a flush of lings. Destroying the nexus, soO forced Classic into desperate move outs hoping to equalize, but soO easily cleaned up whatever force his teammate had to offer. The SKT Protoss was still able to force a base trade that looked flatteringly close, but once mutas were out it was a mere matter of eliminating probes and sitting behind spine crawlers.

With everything square and down to a best of 3, Classic was not to be denied. A scrappy Game 5 on Overgrowth swung in his favor when soO failed to preserve his fourth base from stalkers, and the harassment would not stop from there. Classic's mostly blink stalker army was constantly moving left to right, and a warp prism was always able to find holes in soO's defenses. No base beyond the zerg's 3rd would stay alive for more than a few minutes and mutas never had the time to do significant damage to Classic. Mined out on 3 bases and left with nothing but drones, soO typed out a frustrated "gg" despite still being close in supply. It would not get any better for the SKT Zerg on Merry Go Round, as the neo-Chintoss ended the series and claimed his title in classic Protoss fashion: a 2-base 7 gate all in with phoenixes. Despite scouting it early, soO uncharacteristically under-reacted, rolling out the red carpet for his opponent to walk all the way towards his natural ramp. Forcefields were cast, hydras were lifted, and drones died. The series was over.

It was a striking variety of games as all 6 followed a different script. Classic may have relied mostly on stargate builds, but each game was different enough to perplex soO and keep him from reaching his usually dominant muta-corruptor mid game. It was a strong performance that left little in doubt: Classic was the best player of the season.

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And yet, despite joining a pantheon shared by some of the game's greatest players, Classic may still find himself behind teammates Rain and PartinG on many people's lists of best Protosses, including that of Artosis and Tasteless. It seems that a GSL title may ensure riches and WCS points, but it no longer assures a continued rise to prominence. For every Maru, Zest, or Soulkey, we have seen our fair share of Snipers and Seeds. And though it was Classic that ended the evening a champion, it was soO who broke records and made history. The SKT Zerg may have lost his chance at redemption to his teammate, but soO has defeated a threat that looms beyond the celebration of Classic's victory: anonymity.

In the face of failure upon failure on the grandest of stages, soO has persevered. Where many other champions have fallen after triumph, the red ribbon Zerg has grown season upon season to prove his valor and his mettle. Though we teasingly call him our Kong, it is only in the hearts of the coldest of fans that he has yet to earn a place as the tragic hero. He has risen from the doldrums of Proleague specialists and Ro16 stalwarts; he has graduated from the gatekeepers and Lucky Ones; and he has found a place in SC2's lore to call his own.

In his Proleague MVP interview versus CJ Entus a day after losing his third straight GSL final, soO looked somber, perhaps distressed, and he answered his questions with surprising conciseness. During his game against GuMiho however, in his eyes you could see the conflagration in his soul. Though many feel that this latest defeat will finally soften his resolve, the real Iron Zerg still hungers to break his silver mold. Neither the ache of disappointment nor a place in history has yet to allay his ambition, and it is that determination that Classic must emulate. Forget double champions Zest or Dear, WCG/WCS champion PartinG, or OSL champion Rain. In an age of Protoss dominance, he must do more than just win a title or two to elevate himself above his peers. His struggle against a return to anonymity begins now. It's where he has come from, and it is where he refuses to return. He has changed his identity to get here, and he has pushed aside his more distinguished teammates to attain a glory once so distant. You have to believe that he is capable, and that his friendship with soO will be vital.

Classic may have won the title, but he still has much to learn from his old roommate. Classic has earned the right to be GSL champion, but soO has earned the right to be remembered as one of the game's greats.

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Writers: lichter.
Graphics: GOM eXP.
Editor: lichter.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 30 2014 14:13 GMT
#2
Haha soO
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EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
June 30 2014 14:21 GMT
#3
Ty for the write-up, even tho games were underwhelming and another protoss won.
MirageTaN
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore871 Posts
June 30 2014 14:22 GMT
#4
soO the new YellOw of Sc2
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ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
June 30 2014 14:22 GMT
#5
the new kong has arrived
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
June 30 2014 14:23 GMT
#6
SoO is literally one of the best SC2 players outside of GSL finals, in the finals he is one of the best chokers though...
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
June 30 2014 14:25 GMT
#7
This makes 4 Protoss GSL Champs in a row right? They tied the Zerg record from 2012-2013.

One more and they break it.

Crazy shit.
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Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-30 14:31:29
June 30 2014 14:28 GMT
#8
On June 30 2014 23:25 Vindicare605 wrote:
This makes 4 Protoss GSL Champs in a row right? They tied the Zerg record from 2012-2013.

One more and they break it.

Crazy shit.


3 Zest, Dear, Classic i think
unless u count GSL global championship?
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
June 30 2014 14:29 GMT
#9
King Kong. Well played Classic well played.
Picasso
Profile Joined October 2013
Korea (South)52 Posts
June 30 2014 14:35 GMT
#10
^knew there were gonna be balance whines even before I clicked on this thread. Can't everyone just forget whatever opinions they might have about balance for a bit and celebrate someone's hard work and dedication paying off? He's been in the scene for 6 years goddamn it
Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
June 30 2014 14:42 GMT
#11
It is insane that all three people who beat soO were all on eSTRO way back in the day, I had no idea!

Poor soO, 4th time's the charm. I'm still very happy for Classic though.
I root for CJ because their fb posts are hilarious
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 30 2014 14:58 GMT
#12
On June 30 2014 23:25 Vindicare605 wrote:
This makes 4 Protoss GSL Champs in a row right? They tied the Zerg record from 2012-2013.

One more and they break it.

Crazy shit.


Terran had 3 in a row too (4 if you count Blizzard Cup) back in 2011.

Mvp -> MMA -> Jjakji (-> MMA).
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
June 30 2014 15:04 GMT
#13
Kespa was never the elephant but the masses of Protoss players they brought with them. All the fault of the hybrid PL, were Protoss was looking so good in Sc2, tempted so many to go for Protoss. (Just like the WoL Beta caused a heavy Terran influence)
Glad Classic won, but I guess next season I should root for soO.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
June 30 2014 15:10 GMT
#14
This soO's desperate smile, oh boy.
<3

On June 30 2014 23:23 Ramiz1989 wrote:
SoO is literally one of the best SC2 players outside of GSL finals, in the finals he is one of the best chokers though...


It's unbelievable that you can choke 3 times in a row.
More likely, he was a bit unlucky, but it's thin line between GSL champion and GSL finalist.
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c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
June 30 2014 15:19 GMT
#15
Oh man, feel bad for soO.
GreenMash
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway1746 Posts
June 30 2014 15:20 GMT
#16
On June 30 2014 23:58 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 23:25 Vindicare605 wrote:
This makes 4 Protoss GSL Champs in a row right? They tied the Zerg record from 2012-2013.

One more and they break it.

Crazy shit.


Terran had 3 in a row too (4 if you count Blizzard Cup) back in 2011.

Mvp -> MMA -> Jjakji (-> MMA).

Then you could say its 5 toss with Rain winning Hot6 cup
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DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
June 30 2014 15:24 GMT
#17
The caption for this article on the main page has at least 3 errors in it.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-30 15:28:29
June 30 2014 15:26 GMT
#18
On July 01 2014 00:20 GreenMash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 23:58 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:25 Vindicare605 wrote:
This makes 4 Protoss GSL Champs in a row right? They tied the Zerg record from 2012-2013.

One more and they break it.

Crazy shit.


Terran had 3 in a row too (4 if you count Blizzard Cup) back in 2011.

Mvp -> MMA -> Jjakji (-> MMA).

Then you could say its 5 toss with Rain winning Hot6 cup


Well, I go by GOM's definition. They apparently considered MMA and Life x2 champs (both have 2 pins iirc), yet Rain doesn't. Mvp has 1 of his pins from the world championship as well, which wasn't a regular season.

Besides that though, I'm not seeing how we even got 4 protoss in a row? Are we counting Dear's s3 final victory? sOs' Blizzcon win?

I got Dear -> Zest -> Classic by my count as far a gsl champs go.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
sc2isnotdying
Profile Joined June 2014
United States200 Posts
June 30 2014 15:33 GMT
#19
On June 30 2014 23:25 Vindicare605 wrote:
This makes 4 Protoss GSL Champs in a row right? They tied the Zerg record from 2012-2013.

One more and they break it.

Crazy shit.


There are only 3 races and Terran has had a rough time of it lately. A coin coming up heads 3 times in a row is not crazy. (Terran isn't at a 0% winrate but you get the point)
Jornada
Profile Joined February 2012
United States223 Posts
June 30 2014 15:36 GMT
#20
I am a Protoss player... I love Protoss and enjoy playing them. But i do understand the state of the game right now. Protoss is Strong... I will not say they are OP because they are not. Protoss doesnt need to be fix in my personal opinion.. i think Terran and zerg needs another slight buff.

I am glad classic won but i kind of get tired of playing ladder with people constantly complaining about protoss... that i have taken a break from the game myself.
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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
June 30 2014 15:39 GMT
#21
Congrats to classic, I haven't seen him play much recently and remember him as the mediocre guy who played in pro league sometimes
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beefos
Profile Joined February 2013
France1 Post
June 30 2014 15:40 GMT
#22
How does a Terran win a GSL?


=> Switch to protoss!

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[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
June 30 2014 15:40 GMT
#23
The sad face of Soo after the last match almost broke my heart.

Three time he qualified for the finals. One he showed that he is on par with Classic, his teammate won two games in a row and grabbed the trophy.

All the practice, all the hard work and still no title.
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Alvis
Profile Joined July 2011
876 Posts
June 30 2014 15:49 GMT
#24
[image loading]
Soo TT
Josh_Video
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada798 Posts
June 30 2014 15:51 GMT
#25
On July 01 2014 00:40 beefos wrote:
How does a Terran win a GSL?


=> Switch to protoss!


Is that really going to be your first post? Come on, don't start your post history with balance whine.
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Snijjer
Profile Joined September 2011
United States989 Posts
June 30 2014 16:10 GMT
#26
On July 01 2014 00:24 DinoMight wrote:
The caption for this article on the main page has at least 3 errors in it.


Yeah it's kinda funny.
sc2isnotdying
Profile Joined June 2014
United States200 Posts
June 30 2014 16:13 GMT
#27
I think most fans would agree that Soo is overall a better player than Classic, so it's tempting to see this result as evidence of imbalance. I wouldn't jump to that conclusion, though. Not only is it foolish to put so much weight on one result, I really don't think Soo played his best game. (Not that I want to discredit Classic, who played great nor do I want to say Soo choked, but...)

Anyways it was a teamkill and SKT was simultaneously preparing for two important pro-league matches, so these are definitely not representative results. I wish GOM and KeSPA would work out a schedule where Code S/Proleague finals would get the week to themselves. It would be nice to see the players be able to devote all their focus to the grand finals.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
June 30 2014 16:27 GMT
#28
On July 01 2014 01:10 Snijjer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 00:24 DinoMight wrote:
The caption for this article on the main page has at least 3 errors in it.


Yeah it's kinda funny.


I probably dragged the text while trying to highlight stuff I have no idea how I could have butchered it that badly =/
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Tamagoshi
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil981 Posts
June 30 2014 16:41 GMT
#29
Congratz Classic!

And I want soO to lose in the finals again in S3. And be the champion of Blizzcon. That would be sweet
Cluster__
Profile Joined September 2013
United States328 Posts
June 30 2014 16:42 GMT
#30
see you in the next finals soO
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China2430 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-30 16:47:58
June 30 2014 16:43 GMT
#31
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-30 16:49:04
June 30 2014 16:47 GMT
#32
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
June 30 2014 16:49 GMT
#33
On July 01 2014 00:26 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 00:20 GreenMash wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:58 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:25 Vindicare605 wrote:
This makes 4 Protoss GSL Champs in a row right? They tied the Zerg record from 2012-2013.

One more and they break it.

Crazy shit.


Terran had 3 in a row too (4 if you count Blizzard Cup) back in 2011.

Mvp -> MMA -> Jjakji (-> MMA).

Then you could say its 5 toss with Rain winning Hot6 cup


Well, I go by GOM's definition. They apparently considered MMA and Life x2 champs (both have 2 pins iirc), yet Rain doesn't. Mvp has 1 of his pins from the world championship as well, which wasn't a regular season.

Besides that though, I'm not seeing how we even got 4 protoss in a row? Are we counting Dear's s3 final victory? sOs' Blizzcon win?

I got Dear -> Zest -> Classic by my count as far a gsl champs go.

No, idiot, its Dear GSL-> Zest GSL -> Zest GSL Global Championship -> Classic GSL
And Rains Hot6 not GSL according to you, and that is correct, but the win counts as Gom says, it might be a cup, but its still a Gom championship, so 5 protoss wins in a row for GOM, and 4 in terms of GSL.
BTW, if you think im wrong on that point go check GOM on liquipedia and look at the place where they say cups, butnot where the it says players who won GSL, thats just GSL, not the cup, or Arena of Legend champions, so obviously Rain didnt count IN THE GSL, but it was still a win, so yeah, my point finished 5 toss wins in a Row, yeah Toss is awesome.

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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-30 17:04:26
June 30 2014 17:03 GMT
#34
On July 01 2014 00:26 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 00:20 GreenMash wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:58 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:25 Vindicare605 wrote:
This makes 4 Protoss GSL Champs in a row right? They tied the Zerg record from 2012-2013.

One more and they break it.

Crazy shit.


Terran had 3 in a row too (4 if you count Blizzard Cup) back in 2011.

Mvp -> MMA -> Jjakji (-> MMA).

Then you could say its 5 toss with Rain winning Hot6 cup


Well, I go by GOM's definition. They apparently considered MMA and Life x2 champs (both have 2 pins iirc), yet Rain doesn't. Mvp has 1 of his pins from the world championship as well, which wasn't a regular season.

Besides that though, I'm not seeing how we even got 4 protoss in a row? Are we counting Dear's s3 final victory? sOs' Blizzcon win?

I got Dear -> Zest -> Classic by my count as far a gsl champs go.


Oh shit, I forgot that sOs's win at Blizzcon was in that same time frame also.

That doesn't technically count, but it definitely should. Even if it wasn't a GSL.

Going by Liquipedia, we have 3 GSL seasons and one world championship for Protoss. Dear in Season 3, Zest x2 and now Classic.
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Guileful
Profile Joined November 2012
Kazakhstan137 Posts
June 30 2014 17:27 GMT
#35
soO and Jaedongs curse
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
June 30 2014 18:09 GMT
#36
Zerg is strong in all continents
Terran decided to conquer zerg lands outside of korea
Protoss stayed at home to dominate GSL
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
eightym
Profile Joined May 2011
United States76 Posts
June 30 2014 18:15 GMT
#37
For the record, Classic is a talented protoss player who switched from terran roughly a year ago. Congratulations.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
June 30 2014 18:31 GMT
#38
soO the new marineking ?
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caznitch
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada645 Posts
June 30 2014 18:34 GMT
#39
I felt really bad for soO after the loss. It felt like he stayed in his booth for 20 mins and no amount of coaxing would get him out.
why?
Hadronsbecrazy
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom551 Posts
June 30 2014 18:51 GMT
#40
Wings of Liberty , Terran Campaign, Kong: MarinekingPrime (T)

Heart of the Swarm, Zerg Campaign, Kong Jaedong/soO (Z)

Legacy of the Void, Protoss Campaign, Kong: (Enter Protoss PLayer here)

You saw it here first xD

No need Build Orders, Only Micro,Favourite Players: Maru, Zest, soOjwa , CJherO
Roboroadkill
Profile Joined August 2013
United States16 Posts
June 30 2014 19:06 GMT
#41
soO? Where did you go?

He didn't seem like the soO we all know in this series. I cannot believe that he didn't prepare better for the Phoenix all in in game 6, i was screaming in my head (I would have literally screamed but it was 1 in the morning) to get some static D or something, but no he just made pure ling hydra (The worst thing to make against a phoenix all in)

Sigh. . . Maybe 4th time is the charm.
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eScaper-tsunami
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada313 Posts
June 30 2014 19:09 GMT
#42
I just want soO to make it to every finals and say sup?
RuhRoh is my herO
Pontius Pirate
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United States1557 Posts
June 30 2014 19:21 GMT
#43
People keep saying that soO is really good, but every time I tune in to his games, I end up being disappointed in his play. Honestly, I was far more impressed with Solar this season as a whole, and to a lesser degree, Soulkey as well. Roro seems to wow me every time I see him in proleague. As much as I'd like to pick one tournament and declare it to be the end all to be all determinant of skill, I don't think it's accurate to say that soO is a world's best zerg.
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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4408 Posts
June 30 2014 19:25 GMT
#44
On July 01 2014 04:21 Pontius Pirate wrote:
People keep saying that soO is really good, but every time I tune in to his games, I end up being disappointed in his play. Honestly, I was far more impressed with Solar this season as a whole, and to a lesser degree, Soulkey as well. Roro seems to wow me every time I see him in proleague. As much as I'd like to pick one tournament and declare it to be the end all to be all determinant of skill, I don't think it's accurate to say that soO is a world's best zerg.


It's not one tournament it's 3 tournaments in a row. He also does pretty dang well in proleague and got 3rd/4th in the GSL global championship.
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-30 19:36:52
June 30 2014 19:33 GMT
#45
Is there any reason I am unable to watch the VODS of the finals? I've been holding off coming here in hopes that it would correct itself, but I still have the same problem. Do I need a YEAR long ticket to watch the finals VODS, as opposed to a season ticket. This is quite frustrating.


edit: It would appear it's not even apart of my subscriptions. I'm not sure why, I watched every match of last season and this season, yet for some reason I seem to have lost both subscriptions.
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
June 30 2014 19:34 GMT
#46
his head looks abnormally balloonish in the banner
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Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-30 20:01:22
June 30 2014 20:01 GMT
#47
On July 01 2014 04:21 Pontius Pirate wrote:
People keep saying that soO is really good, but every time I tune in to his games, I end up being disappointed in his play. Honestly, I was far more impressed with Solar this season as a whole, and to a lesser degree, Soulkey as well. Roro seems to wow me every time I see him in proleague. As much as I'd like to pick one tournament and declare it to be the end all to be all determinant of skill, I don't think it's accurate to say that soO is a world's best zerg.


If you're unlucky to see only soO's scrappy finals, well, happens.

But it's hilarious to argue on who is best Zerg in the world when you have guy who stays in GSL finals for a year already, smashing all other top Zergs on his road to finals.

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mechengineer123
Profile Joined March 2013
Ukraine711 Posts
June 30 2014 20:40 GMT
#48
Classic is the guy who switched from T to P not too long ago right? :D I would recommend more T's to do that.
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
June 30 2014 20:52 GMT
#49
To all the whiners on this thread... did you actually watch the games? Do you really think soO played better than Classic?

Please be honest. Protoss may have its problems but I think imbalance didn't make Classic the winner here.
Radicalness
Profile Joined September 2011
United States271 Posts
June 30 2014 21:17 GMT
#50
There's always next season soO...
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Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
June 30 2014 21:24 GMT
#51
On July 01 2014 05:40 mechengineer123 wrote:
Classic is the guy who switched from T to P not too long ago right? :D I would recommend more T's to do that.

Over a year and a half I think.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-30 21:45:47
June 30 2014 21:42 GMT
#52
On July 01 2014 04:21 Pontius Pirate wrote:
People keep saying that soO is really good, but every time I tune in to his games, I end up being disappointed in his play. Honestly, I was far more impressed with Solar this season as a whole, and to a lesser degree, Soulkey as well. Roro seems to wow me every time I see him in proleague. As much as I'd like to pick one tournament and declare it to be the end all to be all determinant of skill, I don't think it's accurate to say that soO is a world's best zerg.


Well, on results you can't really contend with soO right now as far as Zergs go. So I can understand giving him that title.

However, when it comes to gameplay, I can't help feeling like Soulkey is still superior. Soulkey just seems to excel in everything, but especially in using SH and playing from behind.

I'm not even really a fanboy of Soulkey either. Guy just seems to always end up walking a harder path than soO and going out earlier than expected. At least aside from that one time soO crapped on him 3-0 (so maybe he's better in ZvZ at least). Soulkey is totally killing him in SPL at least.
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Hadronsbecrazy
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom551 Posts
June 30 2014 21:54 GMT
#53
On July 01 2014 04:33 dutchfriese wrote:
Is there any reason I am unable to watch the VODS of the finals? I've been holding off coming here in hopes that it would correct itself, but I still have the same problem. Do I need a YEAR long ticket to watch the finals VODS, as opposed to a season ticket. This is quite frustrating.


edit: It would appear it's not even apart of my subscriptions. I'm not sure why, I watched every match of last season and this season, yet for some reason I seem to have lost both subscriptions.



you can get free vods on youtube, albeit with korean commentary. Still i feel its good :D
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The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-30 23:39:41
June 30 2014 23:34 GMT
#54
Great play from Classic. SoO deserves all the respect in the world for making three straight finals, showing that he's probably the strongest player overall at the moment and I say this even though, according to the TLPD, Taeja and Innovation are the top three players in the world. . . . lol.

In any event I do want to express some disappointment with the casting. Tasteless' casting was abysmal. He wasn't funny and about all he contributed to the cast was to continually point out "mistakes". This was a mistake, that's a mistake, that's sloppy, this is an error, etc. You'd think you were watching a bronze league heroes game if you just listened to him prattle on. While hyping small things is unnecessary and no one is playing perfect the level of criticism coming from him is pretty unbearable, especially when it's coming from someone who clearly isn't that knowledgeable (anymore). Artosis's favorite players weren't playing and he had tough mustering any enthusiasm even though he at least acknowledges that SoO is playing extremely well. I almost had to mute the cast at points. In any event, I'm not sure whom I'd want to cast the GSL finals. I like Grubby probably the best as the "analyst" and Rotterdam for the right blend of comedy, light analysis and criticism. Although I find Wolf to be intolerable for many of the same reasons I now find Tasteless intolerable, I enjoy the Proleague casts, especially when Moonglade joins them.
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Axxis
Profile Joined May 2010
United States133 Posts
June 30 2014 23:46 GMT
#55
Some great games! I'm loving these protoss! There are a half a dozen that have really stepped their game up and started to really shine. For once we have leaders to look up to. We're no longer reliant upon gimmicks and cheezy builds. Finaly we can actually keep up in a macro game and everyone cries about it. Well say what you must but these top protoss are damn good. Hope you win another Classic!
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myxoma_strain
Profile Joined December 2013
United Kingdom371 Posts
July 01 2014 00:12 GMT
#56
If soo lost to estro protosses three times in a row, this means only one thing: Flying is going to come out of retirement for next season
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
July 01 2014 00:33 GMT
#57
On July 01 2014 06:54 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 04:33 dutchfriese wrote:
Is there any reason I am unable to watch the VODS of the finals? I've been holding off coming here in hopes that it would correct itself, but I still have the same problem. Do I need a YEAR long ticket to watch the finals VODS, as opposed to a season ticket. This is quite frustrating.


edit: It would appear it's not even apart of my subscriptions. I'm not sure why, I watched every match of last season and this season, yet for some reason I seem to have lost both subscriptions.



you can get free vods on youtube, albeit with korean commentary. Still i feel its good :D


could you PM the channel you watch it on?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 01 2014 00:43 GMT
#58
On July 01 2014 09:33 dutchfriese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 06:54 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
On July 01 2014 04:33 dutchfriese wrote:
Is there any reason I am unable to watch the VODS of the finals? I've been holding off coming here in hopes that it would correct itself, but I still have the same problem. Do I need a YEAR long ticket to watch the finals VODS, as opposed to a season ticket. This is quite frustrating.


edit: It would appear it's not even apart of my subscriptions. I'm not sure why, I watched every match of last season and this season, yet for some reason I seem to have lost both subscriptions.



you can get free vods on youtube, albeit with korean commentary. Still i feel its good :D


could you PM the channel you watch it on?


Don't even think you need a PM since the VODs are from GOM's Korean channel.

https://www.youtube.com/user/expKR/videos
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FoShao
Profile Joined November 2012
United States256 Posts
July 01 2014 00:55 GMT
#59
This finals felt really lack luster to me :/ not sure if it was because of them being teammates or what. Their decision making seemed so bad in comparison to their games up to the finals. Was also super surprised Classic won. If SoO had been playing as well as he did in his finals against Zest, he would have wrecked Classic.
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
July 01 2014 01:19 GMT
#60
On July 01 2014 09:43 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 09:33 dutchfriese wrote:
On July 01 2014 06:54 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
On July 01 2014 04:33 dutchfriese wrote:
Is there any reason I am unable to watch the VODS of the finals? I've been holding off coming here in hopes that it would correct itself, but I still have the same problem. Do I need a YEAR long ticket to watch the finals VODS, as opposed to a season ticket. This is quite frustrating.


edit: It would appear it's not even apart of my subscriptions. I'm not sure why, I watched every match of last season and this season, yet for some reason I seem to have lost both subscriptions.



you can get free vods on youtube, albeit with korean commentary. Still i feel its good :D


could you PM the channel you watch it on?


Don't even think you need a PM since the VODs are from GOM's Korean channel.

https://www.youtube.com/user/expKR/videos



I didn't want to break any rules. Thanks for the link though.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
July 01 2014 01:25 GMT
#61
On July 01 2014 09:12 myxoma_strain wrote:
If soo lost to estro protosses three times in a row, this means only one thing: Flying is going to come out of retirement for next season

Either that or hyvaa switches to Protoss.
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
July 01 2014 01:28 GMT
#62
code B terran = best protoss in the world?
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FlowOfIdeas
Profile Joined December 2013
30 Posts
July 01 2014 01:55 GMT
#63
Who is Classic?

User was warned for this post
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 01 2014 01:56 GMT
#64
On July 01 2014 09:12 myxoma_strain wrote:
If soo lost to estro protosses three times in a row, this means only one thing: Flying is going to come out of retirement for next season


PLEASE YES
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tesTOSSterone
Profile Joined July 2013
Canada15 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 05:21:18
July 01 2014 05:18 GMT
#65
You would think that a website mostly dedicated to Starcraft news would have have an article about the winner of arguable the most important tournament the day of it happening or at least the following day. This article was almost 3 days late, thanks for trying tho.
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pichoo
Profile Joined May 2014
Australia123 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 05:29:25
July 01 2014 05:28 GMT
#66
All VODS for the season will be available on 12 July on GOM youtube, if i remember correctly, it was mentioned during the match break.

Tastetosis is the reason I love GSL so much, other than the top korean players. Often times other caster would get very technical and not funny on other tournaments. But recently I do notice tasteless sometimes get speechless when the player of his choice or fan favourite like Soo and Maru got beaten.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33419 Posts
July 01 2014 05:53 GMT
#67
On July 01 2014 10:56 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 09:12 myxoma_strain wrote:
If soo lost to estro protosses three times in a row, this means only one thing: Flying is going to come out of retirement for next season


PLEASE YES


or artosis iono
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holmesgenius
Profile Joined February 2013
Vietnam65 Posts
July 01 2014 06:13 GMT
#68
Yellow and Jeadong...like it. Dont be sad
Terran imbalance ---- Zerg wins ---- Protoss advances
frosecold
Profile Joined January 2011
Venezuela76 Posts
July 01 2014 14:24 GMT
#69
I wanted soO to win, he deserved it... And im saying that as a toss player
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covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 14:30:29
July 01 2014 14:30 GMT
#70
Classic best in the world!! SKT best KT
Darkkal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States60 Posts
July 02 2014 02:01 GMT
#71
i was actually a little disappointed with how the games played out

it didn't seem like a very high level series, both players seemed to throw really hard at points for strange reasons throughout the matches, not necessarily a commentary on balance, but the players themselves

regardless, congrats Classic on your championship
Riner1212
Profile Joined November 2012
United States337 Posts
July 02 2014 17:18 GMT
#72
On July 01 2014 10:55 FlowOfIdeas wrote:
Who is Classic?


an ex terran player that switched to protoss lol and won gsl. should indicate something lol.
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Winterhearted
Profile Joined October 2012
Ukraine28 Posts
July 02 2014 17:23 GMT
#73
Toss again, what a surprise!
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