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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
June 04 2014 17:33 GMT
#61
To everyone calculating the flight costs from Mexico City - I don't think major lives in Mexico City, plus you are forgetting to account for taxi rides which he claims could total up to 200 dollars.

The reason this is an issue is because in last years WCS, anyone in the Americas had fully subsidized travel, and anyone who was outside had to pay completely out of pocket. Now suddenly major is getting the short end of the stick because blizzard is shelling out $1000 per Korean and forcing major to eat some costs he wouldn't have had to before (in a tournament that is in HIS region). So I think he is justifiably a bit angry. I think costs could be covered from places without their own WCS, like TW, SEA, and China, but costs from Korea should not be subsidized that much . . .

Would be useful to have this information in the op perhaps wax so people aren't confused about why major is displeased
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
June 04 2014 17:33 GMT
#62
ITT: Ignorance and people who didn't read the WCS documentation, spurred on by a player who is ignorant and didn't read the WCS documentation. Blind leading the blind.
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eScaper-tsunami
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada313 Posts
June 04 2014 17:33 GMT
#63
On June 05 2014 02:29 zanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2014 02:29 eScaper-tsunami wrote:
On June 05 2014 02:18 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On June 05 2014 02:16 zanga wrote:
On June 05 2014 02:10 Waxangel wrote:
On June 05 2014 02:04 zanga wrote:
I'll dump my post from the other thread here:

Is he serious?
#Impulsive

SNA (Santa Ana airport) is 15 minutes from the center of Anaheim..... for $376
You can call United Airlines (or probably their webpage) and ask for this flight to buy it.



ESL NA studio is in Burbank iirc, so I think LAX would be the correct destination (I'm not frmo cali please don't hurt me)? Iono where Major lives tho


Roger that commander Wax!

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$378 to BUR - Bob Hope Burbank airport - almsot landing right in their studio!


Hahaha oh wow so you can even fly directly to the fucking regional airport for less, don't even have to use LAX as a hub.

I wish of all the things he'd forfeited, MajOr had forfeited Twitter first.


I'm pretty sure $378 doesn't include taxes, after tax should be around $500 give or take. Guess Major needs to find better deals before forfeiting, then again I don't think twittering a forfeit is actually a forfeit?


Incorrect, as far as I know it includes all taxes, all airport fees and everything , all details below:

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Oh wow lol, guess you did Major's work for him... now he just has to book the flights ha. And that is damn cheap....
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
June 04 2014 17:34 GMT
#64
On June 05 2014 02:33 eScaper-tsunami wrote:
Oh wow lol, guess you did Major's work for him... now he just has to book the flights ha. And that is damn cheap....


It's unlikely he will even have to book them. ESL will most likely handle it for him, they certainly did last season.
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Hadronsbecrazy
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom551 Posts
June 04 2014 17:34 GMT
#65
sad times
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KiWiKaKi
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada691 Posts
June 04 2014 17:35 GMT
#66
Sry guys but all these flights just wont work, major flies direct and first class only
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
June 04 2014 17:35 GMT
#67
that's kind of annoying he has to make it on twitter to get attention and stuff. one could simply talk with blizzard about it.
this is a unprofessional way to go about it, so yeah i hope courage will replace him if he cancels his participation
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olimoley
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States742 Posts
June 04 2014 17:35 GMT
#68
On June 05 2014 02:33 Superiorwolf wrote:
To everyone calculating the flight costs from Mexico City - I don't think major lives in Mexico City, plus you are forgetting to account for taxi rides which he claims could total up to 200 dollars.


Taxi rides to where? Does he know WCS has a personal driver for players during the event?
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
June 04 2014 17:36 GMT
#69
On June 05 2014 02:35 olimoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2014 02:33 Superiorwolf wrote:
To everyone calculating the flight costs from Mexico City - I don't think major lives in Mexico City, plus you are forgetting to account for taxi rides which he claims could total up to 200 dollars.


Taxi rides to where? Does he know WCS has a personal driver for players during the event?


That would involve reading any of the documentation he was sent at the start of Season 1 this year. What do you think?
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B-rye88
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada168 Posts
June 04 2014 17:37 GMT
#70
On June 05 2014 02:35 Undead1993 wrote:
that's kind of annoying he has to make it on twitter to get attention and stuff. one could simply talk with blizzard about it.
this is a unprofessional way to go about it, so yeah i hope courage will replace him if he cancels his participation


Honestly I hope Blizzard tells Major his tweet counts as forfeit, gives him only the guaranteed prize money for Ro32, and has Courage play.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 17:42:46
June 04 2014 17:37 GMT
#71
On June 05 2014 02:36 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2014 02:35 olimoley wrote:
On June 05 2014 02:33 Superiorwolf wrote:
To everyone calculating the flight costs from Mexico City - I don't think major lives in Mexico City, plus you are forgetting to account for taxi rides which he claims could total up to 200 dollars.


Taxi rides to where? Does he know WCS has a personal driver for players during the event?


That would involve reading any of the documentation he was sent at the start of Season 1 this year. What do you think?

I assume he lives far from his airport in Mexico but you'd have to ask him o.o

Honestly I see both sides of the argument, it's such a petty amount of money he'd have to pay especially compared to people outside the US, but major is someone who will let you know how I satisfied he is as I'm sure you've all seen his tweets in the past
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 17:43:12
June 04 2014 17:41 GMT
#72
Ok I just looked at some flights he might take and I think I could plan that trip for less than $500...

Also people saying people outside of NA shouldn't get more money explain to me how any Taiwanese/Chinese/Korean who has earned their way into the Ro16 could possibly get to the studio without their teams forking out TONS of cash if Blizzard didn't provide them with more money.

Sure you can say "It isn't their region why do we have to pay for Koreans to go?" but it is a little late for that. Now there are 10+ players who need travel expenses from Korea paid and you can't just hang them out to dry now.

Overall I think MajOr is a whiner although I wish Blizzard had the money to prevent this from being an issue. Still, seems that this information was available to him long before he qualified for the Ro16 so it seems odd that he is just protesting this now.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and we have long since figured out that immediately going to twitter with your complaint instead of the organization privately is immature and stupid. But hey whatever floats your boat.
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TheFlock
Profile Joined September 2011
United States389 Posts
June 04 2014 17:41 GMT
#73
On June 05 2014 02:36 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2014 02:35 olimoley wrote:
On June 05 2014 02:33 Superiorwolf wrote:
To everyone calculating the flight costs from Mexico City - I don't think major lives in Mexico City, plus you are forgetting to account for taxi rides which he claims could total up to 200 dollars.


Taxi rides to where? Does he know WCS has a personal driver for players during the event?


That would involve reading any of the documentation he was sent at the start of Season 1 this year. What do you think?


Do they really have one? Geez MajOr is gonna be eating his words, this is just getting embarrassing for him. I understand that he was used to last year getting everything paid for, but I guess he never expected to make it thru, so he didn't look up the rules and read the documentation until now???? Just plain silly Juan...
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JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 17:42:19
June 04 2014 17:41 GMT
#74
well maybe he thinks the chance of him going through again is less than likely, so he'd be paying money to go lose. I dunno what he is thinking to be honest.
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imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
June 04 2014 17:42 GMT
#75
Air flight from China to NA costs about $1500. Major being a crybaby as expected.
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Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 17:43:48
June 04 2014 17:42 GMT
#76
On June 05 2014 02:37 Superiorwolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2014 02:36 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On June 05 2014 02:35 olimoley wrote:
On June 05 2014 02:33 Superiorwolf wrote:
To everyone calculating the flight costs from Mexico City - I don't think major lives in Mexico City, plus you are forgetting to account for taxi rides which he claims could total up to 200 dollars.


Taxi rides to where? Does he know WCS has a personal driver for players during the event?


That would involve reading any of the documentation he was sent at the start of Season 1 this year. What do you think?

I assume he lives far from his airport in Mexico but you'd have to ask him o.o


He may go a little over the $500 mark for travel, but he is guaranteed $3,000 regardless. I don't understand the lashing out.. especially after he just qualified for ro16.
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jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
June 04 2014 17:43 GMT
#77
So according to the WCS rules, if he forfiets he only gets the prize money for 17th - 32nd place which is $2k, despite getting 2nd in his RO32 group (which guarantees him at least $3K). So even if it cost him $1000, which is clearly excessive to what people in this threat have found, to get to LA he is still giving up $500 by quitting. (Rule 20.0B).

It is just really hard to have any sympathy for Major with his drama-mongering. Perhaps we can just go ahead and give the spot to courage
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
June 04 2014 17:43 GMT
#78
On June 05 2014 02:41 JacobShock wrote:
well maybe he thinks the chance of him going through again is less than likely, so he'd be paying money to go lose. I dunno what he is thinking to be honest.


Maybe that attitude is why WCS NA is full of Koreans.
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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 17:44:24
June 04 2014 17:43 GMT
#79
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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
June 04 2014 17:45 GMT
#80
On June 05 2014 02:43 jakethesnake wrote:
So according to the WCS rules, if he forfiets he only gets the prize money for 17th - 32nd place which is $2k, despite getting 2nd in his RO32 group (which guarantees him at least $3K). So even if it cost him $1000, which is clearly excessive to what people in this threat have found, to get to LA he is still giving up $500 by quitting. (Rule 20.0B).

It is just really hard to have any sympathy for Major with his drama-mongering. Perhaps we can just go ahead and give the spot to courage


yes.. in the end even if he pays out of his pocket for taxi + etcetcetc he still ends up making more if he attends the ro16
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