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AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
June 04 2014 17:04 GMT
#21
They never said it was supposed to cover all costs this year, just help with costs. Since flights from Asia are more expensive it makes sense that makes sense that the financial help from Blizzard is greater to Koreans and Chinese,
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18407 Posts
June 04 2014 17:04 GMT
#22
On June 05 2014 02:01 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2014 01:55 sharkie wrote:
Sorry, but this just sucks by blizzard...
you cant just say all NA players get 500 and all non NA get 1k - thats unprofessional

I am sure there are places in NA where it costs more than 500 to go to LA...

God damn it paying more for ppl flying from the other globe is "unprofessional"? There is a common sense called "estimated cost" when running business and doing cost plans. Paying 1000$ for Korea and China is not enough and 500$ for Mexico is more than enough. In the end Koreans and Chinese end up paying more out of their/their team's own.

http://www.orbitz.com/flights/from-Mexico_City-to-Los_Angeles.o30682.d4309/
http://flights.expedia.com/flights-from-mexico-city-to-los-angeles-mex-to-lax/
Just see those numbers yourselves jesus.


This is WCS NA. Shouldn't they care more for their NA players?
olimoley
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States742 Posts
June 04 2014 17:04 GMT
#23
A flight from Mexico to LAX during the first week of WCS Ro16 costs $439.
A flight from Mexico to LAX during the second week of WCS Ro16 costs $432.

(source: Kayak)

If it wasn't for teams pushing hard for travel allowance this year Major would have had to pay every cent of that by himself.

Fact of the matter is where you're travelling from matters on how much your travel allowance is, you should be happy to even be getting a travel allowance. Imagine qualifying all 3 seasons, you'd be paying $1500 or more coming from Mexico.
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zanga
Profile Joined September 2011
659 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 17:07:13
June 04 2014 17:04 GMT
#24
I'll dump my post from the other thread here:

Is he serious?
#Impulsive

SNA (Santa Ana airport) is 15 minutes from the center of Anaheim..... for $376
You can call United Airlines (or probably their webpage) and ask for this flight to buy it.

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I don't even..............
*sigh*
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zanga
Profile Joined September 2011
659 Posts
June 04 2014 17:05 GMT
#25
....orr perhaps he lives on Antarctica, in which case I completely understand him.

But I am quite sure this is not the case
(:
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 17:08:10
June 04 2014 17:06 GMT
#26
MajOr has no idea what he is talking about. Flights from Mexico to LA do not cost more than $500 unless you are situated about as far south as you can get. I dunno where MajOr resides, gonna be honest about that, but Mexico City to LA flights cost about $350 return.

Literally a non-issue. They can't possibly care more for NA players because the NA players are not paying a cent for travel. Even with $1000 per player, KR teams are paying the excess, since getting a flight from Seoul to LA return for $1000 that doesn't have some ridiculous 18 hour layover is a matter of complete pot-luck.
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ECA.BruTATroN
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States282 Posts
June 04 2014 17:06 GMT
#27
I would spend the extra money and get at least $1000.00 more then i already have and have so much more exposure! but hey whatever ;D If you join my team we will pay your the extra charges :D
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Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
June 04 2014 17:07 GMT
#28
On June 05 2014 02:01 Squat wrote:
He's probably just blowing a load of hot air for the sake of it, not quite thinking it through. Wouldn't be the first time. Major's people skills are roughly comparable to Genghis Khan's.

Ha! Pretty sure you know "jack shit" about Genghis Khan then.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 17:13:51
June 04 2014 17:07 GMT
#29
On June 05 2014 02:04 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2014 02:01 digmouse wrote:
On June 05 2014 01:55 sharkie wrote:
Sorry, but this just sucks by blizzard...
you cant just say all NA players get 500 and all non NA get 1k - thats unprofessional

I am sure there are places in NA where it costs more than 500 to go to LA...

God damn it paying more for ppl flying from the other globe is "unprofessional"? There is a common sense called "estimated cost" when running business and doing cost plans. Paying 1000$ for Korea and China is not enough and 500$ for Mexico is more than enough. In the end Koreans and Chinese end up paying more out of their/their team's own.

http://www.orbitz.com/flights/from-Mexico_City-to-Los_Angeles.o30682.d4309/
http://flights.expedia.com/flights-from-mexico-city-to-los-angeles-mex-to-lax/
Just see those numbers yourselves jesus.


This is WCS NA. Shouldn't they care more for their NA players?

This is WCS, they should care about all of their players. Did the Europeans complain? LiveZerg flying in from Russia or Vortix from Spain costs pretty as much as Major from Mexico if not more.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
IAMPRO
Profile Joined November 2011
Afghanistan118 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 17:09:33
June 04 2014 17:07 GMT
#30
On June 05 2014 01:53 Ctone23 wrote:
Well I guess that's one way to ask Blizzard to cover the extra xD

Yeah, a completely retarded way and the least likely to succeed. I genuinely fear for some progamers' career prospects after they retire given their people skills can be so lacking.

Life tip for everyone: putting up someone's back from whom you want a favour is an ineffective way of getting what you want. (Plus it makes you come across as a dick).
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 17:10:39
June 04 2014 17:09 GMT
#31
On June 05 2014 02:07 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2014 02:01 Squat wrote:
He's probably just blowing a load of hot air for the sake of it, not quite thinking it through. Wouldn't be the first time. Major's people skills are roughly comparable to Genghis Khan's.

Ha! Pretty sure you know "jack shit" about Genghis Khan then.

Not exactly intended to be a historically accurate representation. Point was that Major has a history of being a bit of a bull in the china shop. Feel free not to expand on your rather opaque remark.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33388 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 17:11:29
June 04 2014 17:10 GMT
#32
On June 05 2014 02:04 zanga wrote:
I'll dump my post from the other thread here:

Is he serious?
#Impulsive

SNA (Santa Ana airport) is 15 minutes from the center of Anaheim..... for $376
You can call United Airlines (or probably their webpage) and ask for this flight to buy it.



ESL NA studio is in Burbank iirc, so I think LAX would be the correct destination (I'm not frmo cali please don't hurt me)? Iono where Major lives tho
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Anoteros
Profile Joined October 2013
44 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 17:12:12
June 04 2014 17:11 GMT
#33
$500 is not enough for a round trip depending on where you live. Right now if I grab a flight from Oakland, California to LA via Expedia.com and give myself two months in advance it comes out to $182 round-trip. That's in the same state, maybe a 30-45 minute flight in total. The only thing that makes up for this is that a Ro16 finish is a guaranteed $3000. Should Blizzard factor in these costs into the prize money? Well, that's another debate.

Cover the cost. Don't do a reimbursement-model so that you (Blizzard) have complete control over the situation and pricing and then send MajOr (despite being rude as hell about it) to WCS America.

Let's watch some damn StarCraft already. :D
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kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
June 04 2014 17:11 GMT
#34
Yea.... this is getting overblown but I'm not surprised.
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 17:14:15
June 04 2014 17:11 GMT
#35
I just did a very quick look-up of return flights from Mexico to LA and the cheapest I could find was $540 with United Airlines (prices from Canada to LA were roughly the same). Cheapest flight from Seoul to LA was $1540 (again with United). Also really can't see many other people coming further than Mexico for the majority of people within NA $500 should actually be enough. I should probably mention that I didn't shop around for these prices, it was pretty much just expedia.

So people within NA are still getting a better deal than Koreans and also Blizzard is under absolutely no obligation to pay travel in the first place. People know full well that RO16 onward is lan and will be expected to travel there if they advance (the prize pool is generous enough to warrant it imo). I can't quite understand all these people saying "Blizzard should do better, shame on them" this is just major been a drama queen.
B-rye88
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada168 Posts
June 04 2014 17:12 GMT
#36
On June 05 2014 02:07 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2014 02:01 Squat wrote:
He's probably just blowing a load of hot air for the sake of it, not quite thinking it through. Wouldn't be the first time. Major's people skills are roughly comparable to Genghis Khan's.

Ha! Pretty sure you know "jack shit" about Genghis Khan then.


Would have clearly been better if you said 'pretty sure you know "jack squat" ... '
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
June 04 2014 17:13 GMT
#37
On June 05 2014 02:11 Anoteros wrote:
$500 is not enough for a round trip depending on where you live. Right now if I grab a flight from Oakland, California to LA via Expedia.com and give myself two months in advance it comes out to $182 round-trip. That's in the same state, maybe a 30-45 minute flight in total. The only thing that makes up for this is that a Ro16 finish is a guaranteed $3000. Should Blizzard factor in these costs into the prize money? Well, that's another debate.

Cover the cost. Don't do a reimbursement-model so that you (Blizzard) have complete control over the situation and pricing and then send MajOr (despite being rude as hell about it) to WCS America.


I don't think you understand how flights work. Oakland to LA costing $182 has no bearing at all on the cost of other flights, it's not a miles per $ system. As has already been proven in this thread, flights from Mexico City to LAX cost less than $400 round trip
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
June 04 2014 17:14 GMT
#38
On June 05 2014 02:09 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2014 02:07 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
On June 05 2014 02:01 Squat wrote:
He's probably just blowing a load of hot air for the sake of it, not quite thinking it through. Wouldn't be the first time. Major's people skills are roughly comparable to Genghis Khan's.

Ha! Pretty sure you know "jack shit" about Genghis Khan then.

Not exactly intended to be a historically accurate representation. Point was that Major has a history of being a bit of a bull in the china shop. Feel free not to expand on your rather opaque remark.

TBH bull in a china shop is not accurate, they don't actually break stuff.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
June 04 2014 17:15 GMT
#39
Be happy you get $500...

A pro would not need the tournament organizer to pay for him anyway... he's gonna win the money back and then some in the tournament.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 04 2014 17:16 GMT
#40
I would start walking now.
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