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Proleague - SKT vs. KT, Part 4

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May 4th, 2014 00:48 GMT
SKPlanet PRoleague

Round 3, Week 4 Preview



Week 4 Preview
Playoff Panic

KT vs. SKT
Can SKT take revenge?

Brackets and standings on Liquipedia

Videos on Youtube

Round 3, Week 4 Preview

By: Waxangel

Week three saw telecom titans KT Rolster and SK Telecom T1 clinch playoff spots with plenty of games to spare, while the other six teams remained in a close race for the final two playoff berths. Although CJ Entus and IM have the 3rd and 4th place spots for now, there's still plenty of room for upheavals in the rankings depending on the results of the remaining games.

KT and SKT will need to stay on their toes, even if they have earned playoff spots far ahead of schedule. Both sides will be eyeing the #1 seed and the substantial advantage it bestows, and there's sure to be fierce fighting over first place. Here are the matches for week four:


Round 3 Standings
1.KT4-012-5+7
2.SKT4-114-6+8
3.CJ Entus2-210-8+2
4.IM2-311-9+2
5.Jin Air2-39-12-3
6.Samsung2-38-13-5
7.Prime1-35-10-5
8.MVP1-35-11-6
Teams that clinched playoff spots in bold.

May 4


SK Telecom T1 vs KT Rolster
(P)PartinG < Merry Go Round LE > (T)TY
(Z)Soulkey < Outboxer > (T)Flash
(P)Rain < Habitation Station LE > (P)Zest
(P)Classic < Maze > (P)Stats
Ace: < Frost LE >

CJ Entus vs Incredible Miracle
(P)herO < Outboxer > (P)YongHwa
(T)Bbyong < King Sejong Station LE > (Z)Life
(P)Hush (Bong) < Maze > (P)HerO
(Z)Hydra < Merry Go Round LE > (Z)ByuL
Ace: < Frost LE >

May 5


Jin Air Green Wings vs Team MVP
(Z)Rogue < Outboxer > (Z)DongRaeGu
(T)Maru < King Sejong Station LE > (Z)Sniper
(P)sOs < Maze > (T)aLive
(Z)TRUE < Merry Go Round LE > (T)KeeN
Ace: < Frost LE >

Prime vs Samsung Galaxy
(P)Creator < Outboxer > (Z)RorO
(Z)DeParture < King Sejong Station LE > (T)Reality
(T)eins < Maze > (P)Stork
(T)MarineKing < Merry Go Round LE > (Z)Solar
Ace: < Frost LE >

May 6


CJ Entus vs SK Telecom T1
(Z)EffOrt < Merry Go Round LE > (Z)Dark
(T)Bbyong < King Sejong Station LE > (Z)soO
(Z)Hydra < Habitation Station LE > (P)Rain
(P)herO < Frost LE > (Z)Soulkey
Ace: < Outboxer >

Incredible Miracle vs KT Rolster
(Z)ByuL < Merry Go Round LE > (T)TY
(Z)Life < King Sejong Station LE > (T)Flash
(P)Ruin < Habitation Station LE > (P)MyuNgSiK
(P)Oz < Frost LE > (P)Zest
Ace: < Outboxer >

Lineup Notes

  • IT'S TELECOM DERBY TIME! More on that below.

  • Mercenary Watch: (Z)Life, (P)Oz, and (P)HerO are all in action for the Incredible Mercenaries this week. Life is even on double duty, as if winning DreamHack Bucharest somehow reminded the IM coaching staff that he's probably the best player on the roster. Yet, given his long track record of disappointments in team leagues, we have to wonder if this is truly a wise choice.

  • Big Matches Abound: The first three weeks of Proleague didn't have all that many interesting matches, with few clashes between top players. Thankfully, week four offers us a bonanza of spectacular matches, such as:

    • (Z)Life vs (T)Flash: This stopped being a real rivalry a long time ago, but it's still a hype as f*** match.

    • (P)herO vs (Z)Soulkey: If you're not excited for this match, then you can turn in your elitist hipster fan memberbship card right now.

    • (Z)TRUE vs (T)KeeN: Baneling-King TRUE is playing ZvT. Nuff said.

    • All of SKT vs KT: Okay, I could maybe skip Classic vs Stats.

  • Navigating The Maze: Both Prime and MVP have dared to send out non-Protoss players on Maze this week. eins will step in for Prime, while aLive will brave the labyrinth for MVP. Interestingly enough, using Terran on Maze has resulted in a 100% win rate so far, although it's only over two games.

  • Race Breakdown: 18 Protoss, 12 Terrans, and 18 Zergs are in action this week.

SK Telecom T1 vs KT Rolster: Episode IV

by Waxangel

(P)PartinG < Merry Go Round LE > (T)TY
(Z)Soulkey < Outboxer > (T)Flash
(P)Rain < Habitation Station LE > (P)Zest
(P)Classic < Maze > (P)Stats
Ace: < Frost LE >

One of the most entertaining stories of the 2014 Proleague season has been KT's absolute dominance in the Telecom rivalry. Though the balance of power between KT and SKT has shifted constantly over the years, it's hard to think of the last time KT was drubbing SKT so lopsidedly. So far this season, KT is 3-0 against SKT in series and 10-1 in maps. If you throw in Zest's 7-0 series record against SKT players in individual leagues, then it starts to feel like we should just cancel all their upcoming matches and award KT Rolster the decision victory for the year.

The stakes are always high when the telecom titans clash in Proleague, and it's no different this time around. KT Rolster and SK Telecom T1 have outperformed the other six teams by a vast margin in Round 3, and there's a very good chance that this match will decide the #1 seed going into the Round playoffs. The #1 seed is rewarded by being placed directly in the Round finals, which is an advantage both KT and SKT will covet. Confident as they might be, neither would relish having to go through CJ or Jin Air to reach the finals.

On paper, the match-ups seem to favor SK Telecom. You have to like (P)PartinG's chances in the first match, even if (T)TY has been playing the best SC2 of his career in the last six months. TvP has really stood out as a weakness for TY, whereas PvT has always been PartinG's calling card.

SKT look to have a slight advantage in the second match as well. Popular opinion in Korea is that ZvT has shifted back in Zerg's favor, and (Z)Soulkey has always been an excellent ZvT player. Though (T)Flash has shown us some solid TvZ mech play this season, his bio hasn't been impressive. With mech TvZ getting figured out and falling out of favor, it's hard to see Flash winning in a straight up match.

The two PvP's are basically toss-ups, making them the important swing matches in the series. (P)Zest beat (P)Rain 4-2 when they met in Code S, but the content of their games showed them to be very evenly matched. Zest might be a master of long PvP series, but he's just as vulnerable as any Protoss in a 1v1 -- his loss to Billowy in the R2 playoffs was a good demonstration of that. This one's a wash.

Similarly, (P)Stats vs (P)Classic is also a wash. Both seem like they'd lose to the god-tier PvP players like PartinG or Zest, but against each other they're very evenly matched. Classic is more inclined to go for crazy cheeses than Zest, so he may have a slight advantage from playing on the unusually shaped map Maze.

As for the ace match, you figure it has to be (P)Zest who carries the banner for KT Rolster. He's been destroying SK Telecom in 2014, with a 25-11 record against them. His only weakness is PvT, and SKT would have to be incredibly ballsy to send out (T)FanTaSy against him. Then again, having one player prepare solely for an ace match appearance would be a very SK Telecom thing to do. After all, they are the only team with a roster strong enough to make it a viable strategy.

The safe option for SKT would be to send out (P)PartinG or (P)Rain. Both of them have played Zest very evenly in series, and they both have a 50/50 chance against Zest in a Bo1. Also, both of them have strong PvT (though Rain insists on complaining anyway), and wouldn't be at a disadvantage if KT Rolster goes with the surprise ace pick in (T)Flash. Yes, we've reached a point in time where Flash is no longer the obvious ace pick for KT Rolster. It's hard to wrap your head around it, but it's true.

Overall, this looks like a match SKT should win 3-1, but everyone on KT Rolster just seems to play 20% better when they're up against their rivals. However, I don't think that they can keep that trend up for the entire season. SKT should finally get a modicum of vengeance here in Round 3. Even if SKT do win, they'll still have to do a lot more work before they can say they're even with KT Rolster in 2014.

Prediction: SKT 3 - 1 KT

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Writers: Waxangel.
Photos: KeSPA.
Editors: Waxangel.
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-04 00:54:41
May 04 2014 00:54 GMT
#2
Oh right, PL

I'd like to see more KT vs SKT rivalry. Last time was just sad
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elmerpogs
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Philippines441 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-04 04:10:44
May 04 2014 00:57 GMT
#3
Prediction: SKT 3 - 1 KT <------ I'd like to see SKT slapping 3-0 to KT.
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
May 04 2014 00:58 GMT
#4
Interestingly enough, using Terran on Maze has resulted in a 100% win rate so far, although it's only over two games.


Or to rephrase this, MKP has a 100% winrate on Maze.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 04 2014 01:00 GMT
#5
KT will win this for sure, let's be real for a moment
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
May 04 2014 01:04 GMT
#6
See u guys there it's gonna be great! :D
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
May 04 2014 01:04 GMT
#7
Zest will win.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 04 2014 01:06 GMT
#8
Keen has been pretty bad in proleague. Probably won't be that great of a match
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
May 04 2014 01:26 GMT
#9
Time for KT to stomp SKT again.
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tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
May 04 2014 01:33 GMT
#10
Where's Fantasy? D: I'm getting worried here
No church in the wild --- @tzhang0126
Koromon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States304 Posts
May 04 2014 01:36 GMT
#11
Hope Life stomps in his games to get back his ZvT swagger
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7351 Posts
May 04 2014 01:41 GMT
#12
SKZ vs CJ. :O SKT BEST KT, stomp lesser KT please. <3 (for once)
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
May 04 2014 01:44 GMT
#13
Hype! Weird how SKT and IM don't play the last week.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
May 04 2014 01:47 GMT
#14
On May 04 2014 10:33 tomastaz wrote:
Where's Fantasy? D: I'm getting worried here


Will come back in R4 to get some important wins with bio-mech on Outboxer v.3

SKT BEST KT.
I just hope that Rain destroys Zest, destroys the curse and Zest falls in Ro16 to 2 SKT guys.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
May 04 2014 03:32 GMT
#15
KT 3-0...
SKT's 'chickens' are only good in a pan....
"they are not breed for fighting~"
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alexander670
Profile Joined February 2014
Australia14 Posts
May 04 2014 04:01 GMT
#16
So many sick games lined up
Really looking forward to all the games all the team matchups seem to be quite close.
I cant wait!
elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
May 04 2014 04:08 GMT
#17
I don't see Flash winning over Soulkey.KT 3-0 SKT is impossible.SKT 3-0 KT!
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
Bounty
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany35 Posts
May 04 2014 08:13 GMT
#18
Zest might be a master of long PvP series, but he's just as vulnerable as any Protoss in a 1v1 -- his loss to Billowy in the R2 playoffs was a good demonstration of that.

Probably meant to be Bo1?
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7805 Posts
May 04 2014 08:19 GMT
#19
I feel like TL always predicts SKT to win over KT but am too lazy to go back through news articles to verify this.

Not that I really blame them because SKT is stronger on paper... but... KT is better than sub-KT.
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
May 04 2014 08:47 GMT
#20
Go go KT! I'm just going to bed now but I'll wake up in 45min to see you stomp SKT again!
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