SK Telecom Starcraft II Proleague Round 3 Week 2 Line Up
PRIME vs IM (04/20, 6:30 p.m KST) 1set : [P] Creator vs [Z] ByuL - Out Boxer 2set : [T] MarineKing vs [P] Ruin - Habitation Station 3set : [T] SalvatioN vs [P] Trap - Frost 4set : [Z] Leenock vs [P] HerO - King Sejong Station ACE : Maze
SKT vs MVP (04/20, 8:30 p.m KST) 1set : [Z] Dark vs [T] Dream - Merry Go Round 2set : [Z] soO vs [Z] DongRaeGu - King Sejong Station 3set : [P] Classic vs [T] KeeN - Habitation Station 4set : [P] Rain vs [P] Super - Frost ACE : Out Boxer
JINAIR vs SAMSUNG (04/21, 6:30 KST) 1set : [T] Maru vs [P] eMotion - Frost 2set : [P] sOs vs [P] Stork - Maze 3set : [T] Cure vs [Z] RorO - Merry Go Round 4set : [Z] Rogue vs [T] Reality - Out Boxer ACE : King Sejong Station
CJ vs KT (04/21, 8:30 p.m KST) 1set : [T] Bbyong vs [Z] Action - Frost 2set : [P] Sora vs [P] Zest - Maze 3set : [Z] Hydra vs [T] Flash - Merry Go Round 4set : [P] herO vs [T] TY - Out Boxer ACE : King Sejong Station
IM vs MVP (04/22, 6:30 p.m KST) 1set : [P] YongHwa vs [T] Dream - Out Boxer 2set : [Z] Life vs [T] aLive - Habitation Station 3set : [Z] ByuL vs [T] KeeN - Frost 4set : [P] Squirtle vs [Z] DongRaeGu - King Sejong Station ACE : Maze
PRIME vs SKT (04/22, 8:30 p.m KST) 1set : [T] MarineKing vs [P] PartinG - Habitation Station 2set : [Z] Leenock vs [P] Rain - Out Boxer 3set : [P] Creator vs [P] Classic - Maze 4set : [T] SalvatioN vs [Z] Soulkey - Merry Go Round ACE : Frost
Anti team for the most part should be fine Tails and Rogue are dragging my team down as they aren't worth trading right now, hoping rogue can beat Reality and raise his value so I can trade him next week.
I had Rain as my big point anti team guy but with him playing twice this week in winnable matches I'm going to risk it and switch to TY and hope herO beats him. After that, not sure what I'm going to do
I have Sora, Emotion, and Hydra on my anti and they're all playing this week but they're all up against tough opponents (yes even Flash for Hydra. This is SPL!). Dunno if I should trade, hmmm...
On April 18 2014 13:20 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Should be a 6-0 for IM if everything goes as expected...and it won't ofc..
tbh I don't think it will be surprising if prime or MVP 3-0 or 3-1 IM
If Prime 3-0s IM then trap will have lost to Salvation which makes no sense. Maybe if Leenock gets down 3 bases to 7 vs. herO he can win, idk otherwise.
On April 18 2014 13:20 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Should be a 6-0 for IM if everything goes as expected...and it won't ofc..
tbh I don't think it will be surprising if prime or MVP 3-0 or 3-1 IM
If Prime 3-0s IM then trap will have lost to Salvation which makes no sense. Maybe if Leenock gets down 3 bases to 7 vs. herO he can win, idk otherwise.
HerO got 2-0d by a teamless zerg player the other day. Leenock has as solid shot against him
On April 18 2014 13:20 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Should be a 6-0 for IM if everything goes as expected...and it won't ofc..
tbh I don't think it will be surprising if prime or MVP 3-0 or 3-1 IM
If Prime 3-0s IM then trap will have lost to Salvation which makes no sense. Maybe if Leenock gets down 3 bases to 7 vs. herO he can win, idk otherwise.
On April 18 2014 13:20 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Should be a 6-0 for IM if everything goes as expected...and it won't ofc..
tbh I don't think it will be surprising if prime or MVP 3-0 or 3-1 IM
If Prime 3-0s IM then trap will have lost to Salvation which makes no sense. Maybe if Leenock gets down 3 bases to 7 vs. herO he can win, idk otherwise.
On April 18 2014 13:20 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Should be a 6-0 for IM if everything goes as expected...and it won't ofc..
tbh I don't think it will be surprising if prime or MVP 3-0 or 3-1 IM
If Prime 3-0s IM then trap will have lost to Salvation which makes no sense. Maybe if Leenock gets down 3 bases to 7 vs. herO he can win, idk otherwise.
HerO got 2-0d by a teamless zerg player the other day. Leenock has as solid shot against him
Kangho > Leenock. Jk they're pretty even but the fact that he's teamless doesn't mean he's not good
maybe now that billowy isnt preparing for gsl anymore he can step in and get me some fpl wins the next few weeks... seriously thought he would be fielded more after last playoffs.
I'm pretty tempted to trade Soulkey away now he's only MAYBE going to play once and I could get players like RorO, Maru or sOs for him.. hmm. Maybe I will trade Bbyong too. What do you guys think?
On April 18 2014 17:31 w3c.TruE wrote: I need advice. Parting + RorO or Rain + Classic? Or any other combination.
That's actually pretty difficult but out of those players I would probably just get RorO + PartinG/Classic/Rain. I think it's kind of impossible to say which one of those SKT toss players is the best pick but I would maybe even get Classic because it's 100% sure he will play twice when PartinG is only going to play once and Rain 1 or 2 not sure. I guess you just have to gamble a bit there and just pick one of them.
On April 18 2014 17:31 w3c.TruE wrote: I need advice. Parting + RorO or Rain + Classic? Or any other combination.
PartinG + RorO purely for the long run.
Rain and Classic both play twice this week and at a minimum will likely win at least 1 of their games each. Yet, I think both RorO and PartinG will win their single games as well. The real reason I lean towards that combo is more for RorO since he's far more dependable to actually see some play time each week. Khan is also more likely to struggle into an ace match unlike SKT, at which point RorO could see even more play.
On April 18 2014 17:39 TR wrote: I'm pretty tempted to trade Soulkey away now he's only MAYBE going to play once and I could get players like RorO, Maru or sOs for him.. hmm. Actually will maybe trade Bbyong too. What do you guys think?
I'd trade Soulkey for Maru if you can. Similar reason to the above, in that Maru is far more likely to come out and see an ace match if need be. Would not trade Bbyong just yet, he's pretty good lately and I don't think Action can take him this week at all.
Prime vs SKT looks soooo good. Should be a sick match, Prime should have decent chances. Same vs IM.
I think the Prime coach has made some better desicions this week. No Choya, Kassia, Depature or Terror, but Salvation twice, a bit more stable. And Leenock good some nice matchups, hopefully he can do well.
On April 18 2014 18:11 Pyloss wrote: Prime vs SKT looks soooo good. Should be a sick match, Prime should have decent chances. Same vs IM.
I think the Prime coach has made some better desicions this week. No Choya, Kassia, Depature or Terror, but Salvation twice, a bit more stable. And Leenock good some nice matchups, hopefully he can do well.
On April 18 2014 17:31 w3c.TruE wrote: I need advice. Parting + RorO or Rain + Classic? Or any other combination.
That's actually pretty difficult but out of those players I would probably just get RorO + PartinG/Classic/Rain. I think it's kind of impossible to say which one of those SKT toss players is the best pick but I would maybe even get Classic because it's 100% sure he will play twice when PartinG is only going to play once and Rain 1 or 2 not sure. I guess you just have to gamble a bit there and just pick one of them.
Yeah it's quite tough. I will probably go with RorO + Rain. I think Rain will play twice, becouse I don't think SKT1 will 3-0 MVP. DRG or Dream have pretty good chance of winning in their matches. Also Rain has higher trading value than Classic, so if i want to trade him next round, i can pick better players... And Rain has higher chance to play in ace match I think.
On April 18 2014 18:11 Pyloss wrote: Prime vs SKT looks soooo good. Should be a sick match, Prime should have decent chances. Same vs IM.
I think the Prime coach has made some better desicions this week. No Choya, Kassia, Depature or Terror, but Salvation twice, a bit more stable. And Leenock good some nice matchups, hopefully he can do well.
Is KessiA that "bad" ? I like the kid.
Me too, and you are right, he may not belong to that list. To be fair, Kassia had pretty strong opponets most o the time, and he played some good games. But he had enough apperances for now. What i meant was that Leenock may be a better choice for that spot.
On April 18 2014 18:11 Pyloss wrote: Prime vs SKT looks soooo good. Should be a sick match, Prime should have decent chances. Same vs IM.
I think the Prime coach has made some better desicions this week. No Choya, Kassia, Depature or Terror, but Salvation twice, a bit more stable. And Leenock good some nice matchups, hopefully he can do well.
Is KessiA that "bad" ? I like the kid.
Me too, and you are right, he may not belong to that list. To be fair, Kassia had pretty strong opponets most o the time, and he played some good games. But he had enough apperances for now. What i meant was that Leenock may be a better choice for that spot.
Yeah i figured so. KessiA cannot really be compared to Terror or Departure.
Man, MKP must love Hab Stat. I guess he does love floating to the gold and showing off his micro with a low amount of units. Think he'll 1/1/1 with the gold? I hope so.
Only player I think I'd like to trade on my team is Tails, but man, there's really nobody good to trade him for so I guess I'm stuck with him for the time being. Also, wouldn't mind getting rid of Rogue, since he'll get crushed by Bbyong this week, but we'll see, maybe he can pick it up next week.
On April 18 2014 22:44 SidianTheBard wrote: Man, MKP must love Hab Stat. I guess he does love floating to the gold and showing off his micro with a low amount of units. Think he'll 1/1/1 with the gold? I hope so.
Plot twist first probe will be sent to prevent landing
Gonna try to trade soO for ByuL since I think ByuL is gonna do well in his matches and I don't have complete faith in soO vs DRG. Also soO only plays once.
Rouge and Tails are letting me down here and I can't actually get rid of them. Crap. Thought about going for SalvatioN but then I realized he's probably going to lose both times. Maybe Rogue will be able to beat Reality. I dunno.
Other than that, I'm worried about Soulkey since he doesn't play that much this round and might not (god forbid) play at all. Maybe trade him for Dream?
Also, I have both Yonghwa and Super on anti. Probably not going to trade Super as everyone higher plays and is probably going to win. I'm considering trading Yonghwa for Stats but I feel like I'm going to regret it later.
Edit: Eff it, traded Yonghwa for Stats. Gonna pray to the SPL gods that Stats isn't fielded twice or something next round.
On April 19 2014 00:31 DoctorFoxer wrote: Soulkey for Maru, RorO, Rain, or sOs?
rain or maru. sos is good but he plays storks who shown to be a scary pvper maru will win his match for sure and will be seeded twice next week facing weaker teams than KT
On April 18 2014 23:56 urasyupi2 wrote: Gonna try to trade soO for ByuL since I think ByuL is gonna do well in his matches and I don't have complete faith in soO vs DRG. Also soO only plays once.
Rouge and Tails are letting me down here and I can't actually get rid of them. Crap. Thought about going for SalvatioN but then I realized he's probably going to lose both times. Maybe Rogue will be able to beat Reality. I dunno.
Other than that, I'm worried about Soulkey since he doesn't play that much this round and might not (god forbid) play at all. Maybe trade him for Dream?
Also, I have both Yonghwa and Super on anti. Probably not going to trade Super as everyone higher plays and is probably going to win. I'm considering trading Yonghwa for Stats but I feel like I'm going to regret it later.
Edit: Eff it, traded Yonghwa for Stats. Gonna pray to the SPL gods that Stats isn't fielded twice or something next round.
keep yonghwa stats is never good on anti. even if youwha wins 1 game he wont win 3-4 like stats can do
well i have remove DRG for Super from my anti, since he has a big chance of winning vs soO... and Super has a PvP which i prolly gonna lose, and i kept leenock on my anti since i have Prime as a Team :D even though he wins i wont take that much of a hit :D
On April 19 2014 01:37 DonFonzy wrote: Can anyone explain as to why Trap isnt getting more play time? The guy is a beast. Like Creator, but actually dependable.
wtf lol creator has won many more games for prime + is pretty clutch how can you say he is not dependable lol
On April 19 2014 01:37 DonFonzy wrote: Can anyone explain as to why Trap isnt getting more play time? The guy is a beast. Like Creator, but actually dependable.
wtf lol creator has won many more games for prime + is pretty clutch how can you say he is not dependable lol
He has been on a roll recently but he has also flopped in pretty hard in the past. His PvP is insane however.
On April 19 2014 01:37 DonFonzy wrote: Can anyone explain as to why Trap isnt getting more play time? The guy is a beast. Like Creator, but actually dependable.
wtf lol creator has won many more games for prime + is pretty clutch how can you say he is not dependable lol
He has been on a roll recently but he has also flopped in pretty hard in the past. His PvP is insane however.
in R1 he was #2 protoss, in R2 he was the #1 protoss for wins (tied)? he hasn't flopped in SPL
On April 19 2014 01:37 DonFonzy wrote: Can anyone explain as to why Trap isnt getting more play time? The guy is a beast. Like Creator, but actually dependable.
wtf lol creator has won many more games for prime + is pretty clutch how can you say he is not dependable lol
He has been on a roll recently but he has also flopped in pretty hard in the past. His PvP is insane however.
in R1 he was #2 protoss, in R2 he was the #1 protoss for wins (tied)? he hasn't flopped in SPL
Didnt he go 3-5 in round 1? Or am I thinking of someone else?
On April 18 2014 22:52 SidianTheBard wrote: Only player I think I'd like to trade on my team is Tails, but man, there's really nobody good to trade him for so I guess I'm stuck with him for the time being. Also, wouldn't mind getting rid of Rogue, since he'll get crushed by Bbyong this week, but we'll see, maybe he can pick it up next week.
Yeah I'm stuck with Tails too
Don't know why you're so sure Bbyong will beat Savage - Savage is a beast and has been throughout proleague. People seem to be overestimating Bbyong. Most of his wins are gimmicky all-ins on the gold on hab stat. He really hasn't had more impressive games than Savage. I've traded Bbyong out for Maru and then put Bbyong in my anti in place of DRG. I think Bbyong is the most overvalued player on the FPL system atm (maybe Hydra?) and Savage is clearly the most undervalued. Don't know why you want to get rid of Savage - there is no other player with anywhere near as good stats for that price.
On April 18 2014 22:52 SidianTheBard wrote: Only player I think I'd like to trade on my team is Tails, but man, there's really nobody good to trade him for so I guess I'm stuck with him for the time being. Also, wouldn't mind getting rid of Rogue, since he'll get crushed by Bbyong this week, but we'll see, maybe he can pick it up next week.
Yeah I'm stuck with Tails too
Don't know why you're so sure Bbyong will beat Savage - Savage is a beast and has been throughout proleague. People seem to be overestimating Bbyong. Most of his wins are gimmicky all-ins on the gold on hab stat. He really hasn't had more impressive games than Savage. I've actually traded Bbyong into my anti for DRG.
someone who beats protoss constantly is surely not overrated :p
On April 18 2014 22:52 SidianTheBard wrote: Only player I think I'd like to trade on my team is Tails, but man, there's really nobody good to trade him for so I guess I'm stuck with him for the time being. Also, wouldn't mind getting rid of Rogue, since he'll get crushed by Bbyong this week, but we'll see, maybe he can pick it up next week.
Yeah I'm stuck with Tails too
Don't know why you're so sure Bbyong will beat Savage - Savage is a beast and has been throughout proleague. People seem to be overestimating Bbyong. Most of his wins are gimmicky all-ins on the gold on hab stat. He really hasn't had more impressive games than Savage. I've traded Bbyong out for Maru and then put Bbyong in my anti in place of DRG. I think Bbyong is the most overvalued player on the FPL system atm (maybe Hydra?) and Savage is clearly the most undervalued. Don't know why you want to get rid of Savage - there is no other player with anywhere near as good stats for that price.
Rogue plays Reality. Also you can trade Tails for Ruin or Dark if you like they both play this week :D
I traded Bbyong for DRG. Tough choice, since I could have gotten Maru. DRG plays twice this week and could produce hugely, while Maru only plays once and has gone on a 0-2 streak to start the league. Kind of a gamble, but it's the only trade I'm likely to make this week.
On April 18 2014 13:51 NovemberstOrm wrote: Trades:
Hydra -> Classic
Anti team for the most part should be fine Tails and Rogue are dragging my team down as they aren't worth trading right now, hoping rogue can beat Reality and raise his value so I can trade him next week.
its a very good trade short term, but you might wanna have hydra later on since he will play most game which might not be the case for classic.
also you should get RUIN to replace tails. his pvt is stellar, even more against MKP who relies alot on his bio, a style which Ruin totally crushed in Code A with his blink into double robo immortal build.
and rogue's a keeper since you cant trade him for anyone who worth it. he play every match anyways he might end up still with 12 points
On April 18 2014 22:52 SidianTheBard wrote: Only player I think I'd like to trade on my team is Tails, but man, there's really nobody good to trade him for so I guess I'm stuck with him for the time being. Also, wouldn't mind getting rid of Rogue, since he'll get crushed by Bbyong this week, but we'll see, maybe he can pick it up next week.
Yeah I'm stuck with Tails too
Don't know why you're so sure Bbyong will beat Savage - Savage is a beast and has been throughout proleague. People seem to be overestimating Bbyong. Most of his wins are gimmicky all-ins on the gold on hab stat. He really hasn't had more impressive games than Savage. I've actually traded Bbyong into my anti for DRG.
someone who beats protoss constantly is surely not overrated :p
although he still all-in every game, even back in wol. im much more impressed by his TvZ.
On April 19 2014 03:02 Rube_Juice wrote: I traded Bbyong for DRG. Tough choice, since I could have gotten Maru. DRG plays twice this week and could produce hugely, while Maru only plays once and has gone on a 0-2 streak to start the league. Kind of a gamble, but it's the only trade I'm likely to make this week.
Leenock and Prime! Leenock has some tough protoss draws this round though, however it looks like they have a decent four now, with Salvation being their best "No-name" in my opinion! Hope they do well!
On April 19 2014 20:41 Ragnarork wrote: Dat Leenock vs HerO game haha. Did they ever met after that horrible game close to the end of WoL ? Could be the opportunity for HerO hehehehe.
They've played twice in Dreamhacks in HoTS with each player taking a 2-1 win
I'm going to trade Soulkey for Rain who should play 2 matches and possibly win both of them. The problem is second trade. I think it's right time to aquire one of Jin Air's aces - Maru or sOs. Maru looked overall better and sOs is playing Stork whose PvP is actually quite good so Maru. However not shure who should I trade for him: RorO or Bbyong ? RorO has thougher opponent but can also be send as an Ace. One the other hand Bbyonghwa... Also KeeN on anti is a bit risky (plays 2 matches) but I have no idea who should I take instead of him. Choices...
On April 20 2014 04:54 egrimm wrote: Main Bbyong MarineKing Barbie Rogue RorO Soulkey
Anti Bunny KeeN Yonghwa
I'm going to trade Soulkey for Rain who should play 2 matches and possibly win both of them. The problem is second trade. I think it's right time to aquire one of Jin Air's aces - Maru or sOs. Maru looked overall better and sOs is playing Stork whose PvP is actually quite good so Maru. However not shure who should I trade for him: RorO or Bbyong ? RorO has thougher opponent but can also be send as an Ace. One the other hand Bbyonghwa... Also KeeN on anti is a bit risky (plays 2 matches) but I have no idea who should I take instead of him. Choices...
I couldn't trade Dream away so I had to trade Keen. I traded Keen to Squirtle
On April 20 2014 04:54 egrimm wrote: Main Bbyong MarineKing Barbie Rogue RorO Soulkey
Anti Bunny KeeN Yonghwa
I'm going to trade Soulkey for Rain who should play 2 matches and possibly win both of them. The problem is second trade. I think it's right time to aquire one of Jin Air's aces - Maru or sOs. Maru looked overall better and sOs is playing Stork whose PvP is actually quite good so Maru. However not shure who should I trade for him: RorO or Bbyong ? RorO has thougher opponent but can also be send as an Ace. One the other hand Bbyonghwa... Also KeeN on anti is a bit risky (plays 2 matches) but I have no idea who should I take instead of him. Choices...
I couldn't trade Dream away so I had to trade Keen. I traded Keen to Squirtle
I thought that Squirtle most probably would win against DRG but after checking Global Tournament results looks like I might be wrong
EPT
Creator vs [Z] 
ByuL - Out Boxer
MarineKing vs [P] 
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