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WCS Europe Ro16 ends, quarterfinal brackets drawn - Page 2

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GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
March 28 2014 23:37 GMT
#21
If welmu can make it past whoever wins from snute/mma, he will beat stardust in the finals
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-28 23:45:23
March 28 2014 23:45 GMT
#22
San to win it all. Manliest active progamer.
Soke
Profile Joined September 2012
United States790 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-28 23:48:12
March 28 2014 23:46 GMT
#23
MC 3 - 1 Stardust
JJakji 3-2 Vortix
MMA 3-1 Snute
San 3-0 Welmu

MC 3-1 JJakji
San 3-2 MMA

MC 4-2 San

Djsoke
mki
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Poland882 Posts
March 29 2014 00:04 GMT
#24
I'm really sad to see that Nerchio didn't make it through

Stardust > MC
Jjakji > Vortix
MMA > Snute
San > Welmu

Jjakji > Stardust
MMA > San

MMA > Jjakji

How I think it will go
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Rye.
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom88 Posts
March 29 2014 00:07 GMT
#25
Is it me, or do have the drawings for the whole EU WCS look a little fixed so as to improve the odds of having a variety of races throughout the competition?

In the RO32, there isnt a single group with 2 terrans. Since terran is the least represented race in the RO32, then spreading them out one per group prevents TvT which could force a terran out therefore increasiong the chances of Terrans getting through.
Also in the RO32, there isnt a single group with 3 Zerg, this benefits zerg as fewer ZvZ means Z is less likely to be forced out.
There are no groups with 3 Protoss as this would guarantee a protoss getting through, and since they are the most represented race they already have good odds of representation in the RO16.

The RO16 has two groups where there were 3 toss in them, this forces at least two protoss out. Thus preventing the RO8 from having more Protoss. Also, the zerg are spread out one in each group, thus preventing ZvZ.

Then in the Quaterfinals there are two matchups where it is Protoss vs Protoss.. thus forcing 2 Protoss out, making it impossible for the semifinals to be all Protoss.

It just feels to me like the groups have been set up so that each stage has a larger variety of races.

Thats not to say they've decided on who plays who; they could choose the race for each spot in each group and then filled those spots randomly

It could just be totally random, if i could be bothered I'd do some maths.


Pretty when naked
AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
March 29 2014 00:20 GMT
#26
Snute is the best foreigner these days (or maby one of the Chinese players) I hope he can win it...
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
March 29 2014 00:23 GMT
#27
Pretty sure that StarDust will take this no problems.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Soke
Profile Joined September 2012
United States790 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-29 00:28:53
March 29 2014 00:27 GMT
#28
I think MC can win.
Djsoke
Soke
Profile Joined September 2012
United States790 Posts
March 29 2014 00:31 GMT
#29
On March 29 2014 09:07 Rye. wrote:
Is it me, or do have the drawings for the whole EU WCS look a little fixed so as to improve the odds of having a variety of races throughout the competition?

In the RO32, there isnt a single group with 2 terrans. Since terran is the least represented race in the RO32, then spreading them out one per group prevents TvT which could force a terran out therefore increasiong the chances of Terrans getting through.
Also in the RO32, there isnt a single group with 3 Zerg, this benefits zerg as fewer ZvZ means Z is less likely to be forced out.
There are no groups with 3 Protoss as this would guarantee a protoss getting through, and since they are the most represented race they already have good odds of representation in the RO16.

The RO16 has two groups where there were 3 toss in them, this forces at least two protoss out. Thus preventing the RO8 from having more Protoss. Also, the zerg are spread out one in each group, thus preventing ZvZ.

Then in the Quaterfinals there are two matchups where it is Protoss vs Protoss.. thus forcing 2 Protoss out, making it impossible for the semifinals to be all Protoss.

It just feels to me like the groups have been set up so that each stage has a larger variety of races.

Thats not to say they've decided on who plays who; they could choose the race for each spot in each group and then filled those spots randomly

It could just be totally random, if i could be bothered I'd do some maths.



You kind of only focus on the "forcing out" and they DID do a live drawing for Ro16 and Ro8. But anyway, this could be flipped on its head and say "They are making SURE there are two protoss in the Semifinals by having two PvPs" Because if there was one toss in each match, a no-toss semifinals could have happened, same with the 3/4 zerg groups.
Djsoke
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
March 29 2014 00:35 GMT
#30
Snute tweeting that if he can just get past MMA it's just cash-hosts to the championship haha :D he seems pretty happy with his draw
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Caladan
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany1238 Posts
March 29 2014 00:36 GMT
#31
I'm very convinced of Stardust - San finals.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
March 29 2014 00:38 GMT
#32
Pretty balanced bracket. Would've like 1 less PvP though
Rye.
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom88 Posts
March 29 2014 00:38 GMT
#33
On March 29 2014 09:31 Soke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 09:07 Rye. wrote:
Is it me, or do have the drawings for the whole EU WCS look a little fixed so as to improve the odds of having a variety of races throughout the competition?

In the RO32, there isnt a single group with 2 terrans. Since terran is the least represented race in the RO32, then spreading them out one per group prevents TvT which could force a terran out therefore increasiong the chances of Terrans getting through.
Also in the RO32, there isnt a single group with 3 Zerg, this benefits zerg as fewer ZvZ means Z is less likely to be forced out.
There are no groups with 3 Protoss as this would guarantee a protoss getting through, and since they are the most represented race they already have good odds of representation in the RO16.

The RO16 has two groups where there were 3 toss in them, this forces at least two protoss out. Thus preventing the RO8 from having more Protoss. Also, the zerg are spread out one in each group, thus preventing ZvZ.

Then in the Quaterfinals there are two matchups where it is Protoss vs Protoss.. thus forcing 2 Protoss out, making it impossible for the semifinals to be all Protoss.

It just feels to me like the groups have been set up so that each stage has a larger variety of races.

Thats not to say they've decided on who plays who; they could choose the race for each spot in each group and then filled those spots randomly

It could just be totally random, if i could be bothered I'd do some maths.



You kind of only focus on the "forcing out" and they DID do a live drawing for Ro16 and Ro8. But anyway, this could be flipped on its head and say "They are making SURE there are two protoss in the Semifinals by having two PvPs" Because if there was one toss in each match, a no-toss semifinals could have happened, same with the 3/4 zerg groups.


My point was that the probability of diversity was increased.
By making sure there are 2 guaranteed protosses, they increase the probability of diversity by preventing 4 protoss going through or no protoss going through.

But i cant really argue with the whole live drawing thing.. you got me there.
Pretty when naked
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
March 29 2014 04:04 GMT
#34
I think a lot will come down to Welmu vs San and MC vs Stardust, but I'm predicting a San/Stardust final or San/Vortix final
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
Chaprizui
Profile Joined July 2012
8 Posts
March 29 2014 04:31 GMT
#35
Stardust > MC
Vortix > JJajkji
MMA > Snute
San > Welmu

Vortix > Stardus
MMA > San

MMA > Vortix
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
March 29 2014 07:20 GMT
#36
On March 29 2014 09:07 Rye. wrote:
Is it me, or do have the drawings for the whole EU WCS look a little fixed so as to improve the odds of having a variety of races throughout the competition?

In the RO32, there isnt a single group with 2 terrans. Since terran is the least represented race in the RO32, then spreading them out one per group prevents TvT which could force a terran out therefore increasiong the chances of Terrans getting through.
Also in the RO32, there isnt a single group with 3 Zerg, this benefits zerg as fewer ZvZ means Z is less likely to be forced out.
There are no groups with 3 Protoss as this would guarantee a protoss getting through, and since they are the most represented race they already have good odds of representation in the RO16.

The RO16 has two groups where there were 3 toss in them, this forces at least two protoss out. Thus preventing the RO8 from having more Protoss. Also, the zerg are spread out one in each group, thus preventing ZvZ.

Then in the Quaterfinals there are two matchups where it is Protoss vs Protoss.. thus forcing 2 Protoss out, making it impossible for the semifinals to be all Protoss.

It just feels to me like the groups have been set up so that each stage has a larger variety of races.

Thats not to say they've decided on who plays who; they could choose the race for each spot in each group and then filled those spots randomly

It could just be totally random, if i could be bothered I'd do some maths.



ESL admin said that they have some rules. He posted it in TL. I remember few things from it. There cant be more than 1 player from his country in his group. (This ofc wasnt possible in ro16 anymore.) And groups were also decided so that there are max of 2 players of each race in group (ro32)
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
DarthNeBuL
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation17 Posts
March 29 2014 07:41 GMT
#37
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:DarthNeBuL/2014_WCS_Season_1_Contest/2014_Season_1_Europe

go go VortiX, Snute and Welmu!
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7169 Posts
March 29 2014 09:28 GMT
#38
Goddamnit, why did welmu have to have the hardest oppo available. Well i still trust in him.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Holloworb
Profile Joined November 2011
Norway345 Posts
March 29 2014 09:30 GMT
#39
Haven't there been a trend that foreigners have been able to do well at the start of tournaments only to get smashed in bracket play? I'd be so happy if they could turn that around and get a big win this time around, keep them nerves in check!

Rooting for Snute ofc
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
March 29 2014 09:32 GMT
#40
Go MMA ! Back to back champion!!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
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