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Drama and intense games on day two of IEM Katowice - Page 2

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BakedButters
Profile Joined November 2011
United States748 Posts
March 15 2014 01:33 GMT
#21
On March 15 2014 09:07 Verator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 08:22 DreamTheaterFan wrote:
How would Hyun winning vs herO be a ''massive upset''? I know herO is very good, but so is Hyun...


Hyun is pretty okay, but he isn't even close to top tier korean. herO on the other hand, is in the running for best player overall.


Hyun is top tier zerg. His wins against Dear and Jjackji, and narrow loss to herO shows he can compete with the best. Best zergs atm are Soulkey, Life, Roro, and Hyun.
Snute <3 Bomber <3 Parting <3 Life <3
viasacra89
Profile Joined January 2012
United States134 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 01:51:56
March 15 2014 01:46 GMT
#22
https://i.imgur.com/X5lQRki.gif

dat widow mine hit
DRGfan19
Profile Joined March 2014
United States6 Posts
March 15 2014 01:48 GMT
#23
If only naniwa never comes back..
DRG MKP gogo
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 15 2014 01:53 GMT
#24
On March 15 2014 10:46 viasacra89 wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/X5lQRki.gif

dat widow mine hit

My favorite hit is the final one. All the mutas are dead, but the last widow mine detonates to kill the lonely overseer.
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OldLadyStarCraft
Profile Joined November 2013
United States66 Posts
March 15 2014 02:26 GMT
#25
Very entertaining day of SC2. Players with the best micro and nerves of steel coming out on top. Great group of casters & analysts. (Ret & Incontrol made some less than exciting matches enjoyable on Day 1 also.) Large, expressive crowd. Really raised my sometimes flagging love of SC2. Thanks. Looking forward to more tomorrow!
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
March 15 2014 02:38 GMT
#26
On March 15 2014 10:20 RaiZ wrote:
I just fail to understand how can someone still love nani, since he's been pretty weird from the very beginning... And he made close to no efforts in improving his manners. That's seriously a pretty fucked up attitude really.


For me, while I don't generally agree with his behavior I like him because he is a good player, he's stream was fun, he goes against the rules and he is not constantly trying to make everyone like him. Others might have their reasons.
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
March 15 2014 02:40 GMT
#27
On March 15 2014 10:24 Faust852 wrote:
The only thing I had in mind during the 3rd game of Taeja vs SD was "please do not early gg, please do not early gg".

Superb tournament so far, It has epic TvZ, great TvP, nice drama, big tensions. Well, everything needed !


You missed Hero vs Hyun. That was a very good PvZ. Only shaded by Jjakji vs Revival as series of the day.

Oh, yeah, and some good PvP too. But, I forgive you if that is not your thing.
KT best KT ~ 2014
Fishriot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States621 Posts
March 15 2014 03:03 GMT
#28
Incredible series between Hyun and herO! Being a Naniwa fan, you could say my jimmies were sufficiently rustled after his game.
AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
March 15 2014 03:14 GMT
#29
Yeah revival vs jakjji was great,,,,hero v hyun was insane!!!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
March 15 2014 03:28 GMT
#30
On March 15 2014 10:53 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 10:46 viasacra89 wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/X5lQRki.gif

dat widow mine hit

My favorite hit is the final one. All the mutas are dead, but the last widow mine detonates to kill the lonely overseer.

He also selects the overseer right before it dies
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jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
March 15 2014 03:43 GMT
#31
On March 15 2014 12:28 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 10:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 15 2014 10:46 viasacra89 wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/X5lQRki.gif

dat widow mine hit

My favorite hit is the final one. All the mutas are dead, but the last widow mine detonates to kill the lonely overseer.

He also selects the overseer right before it dies


Haha. I didn't notice that. That is so sad, and satisfying at the same time!
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CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
March 15 2014 04:09 GMT
#32
Haha, yeah those widow mines.. epic.
~ The Ultimate Weapon
DaftFunk
Profile Joined June 2013
194 Posts
March 15 2014 04:11 GMT
#33
You guys are all retarded. Waxangel said hyun beating hero would've been a massive upset because hero won 2 back to back iem championships and is the number 1 seed in the bracket. Obviously hyun and every other player in here is amazing too

User was warned for this post
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 04:20:17
March 15 2014 04:15 GMT
#34
On March 15 2014 08:57 The_Templar wrote:
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On March 15 2014 08:31 GTPGlitch wrote:
On March 15 2014 08:22 DreamTheaterFan wrote:
How would Hyun winning vs herO be a ''massive upset''? I know herO is very good, but so is Hyun...


+ Show Spoiler [herO stats] +

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Games: 70.23% (92-39)
Matches: 77.78% (49-14)

Current Form:
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Recent Matches:
       kr herO 3 – 2 kr HyuN
       kr herO 1 – 0 kr Soulkey
       kr herO 2 – 1 kr DongRaeGu
       kr herO 3 – 0 de TLO
       kr herO 0 – 1 kr DongRaeGu
       kr herO 1 – 0 kr DeParture
       kr herO 2 – 0 kr Solar
       kr herO 2 – 0 kr RagnaroK
       kr herO 2 – 0 kr Dark
       kr herO 2 – 0 au PiG


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Results for kr HyuN.

Games: 67.08% (591-290)
Matches: 73.56% (256-92)

Current Form:
      W L L W W W W W W L
Recent Matches:
       kr HyuN 2 – 3 kr herO
       kr HyuN 2 – 0 de HasuObs
       kr HyuN 2 – 0 kr Dear
       kr HyuN 2 – 0 pl Forte
       kr HyuN 2 – 0 de Socke
       kr HyuN 2 – 0 de Socke
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       kr HyuN 0 – 2 kr Rain
       kr HyuN 1 – 2 kr Patience
       kr HyuN 2 – 0 de Tarrantius


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hero doing better against a higher level of competition than hyun

That's still not a "massive upset".

The reason I would say it would be a pretty massive upset is because since July 27, 2013, herO hasn't lost a greater than bo1 against any zerg and only lost 2 bo1 in that time period of facing 32 different opponents
http://aligulac.com/players/233/results/?after=2013-07-27&before=&race=z&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&op=Filter
In these games, herO is 54–14 (79.41%) in games and 30–2 (93.75%) in matches.

In bo3 or greater herO has only lost 3 to zerg in the last calendar year
http://aligulac.com/players/233/results/?after=2013-03-14&before=&race=z&country=all&bestof=3&offline=both&game=all&op=Filter
In these games, herO is 55–20 (73.33%) in games and 25–3 (89.29%) in matches.


I guess "massive upset" is a pretty subjective way of looking at it but to me when it's basically the most consistent and arguably best PvZ player in HoTS vs a pretty good zerg that has had some ups and downs, herO losing would be a pretty big shock
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r691175002
Profile Joined October 2012
249 Posts
March 15 2014 04:42 GMT
#35
Honestly I feel sorry for Naniwa. I can't imagine how his birthday could be any shittier.

I'm not trying to defend the guy, but I'm not sure anyone deserves to have such a horrifically bad day.
walsh_walsh
Profile Joined November 2013
United States200 Posts
March 15 2014 04:58 GMT
#36
On March 15 2014 10:33 BakedButters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 09:07 Verator wrote:
On March 15 2014 08:22 DreamTheaterFan wrote:
How would Hyun winning vs herO be a ''massive upset''? I know herO is very good, but so is Hyun...


Hyun is pretty okay, but he isn't even close to top tier korean. herO on the other hand, is in the running for best player overall.


Hyun is top tier zerg. His wins against Dear and Jjackji, and narrow loss to herO shows he can compete with the best. Best zergs atm are Soulkey, Life, Roro, and Hyun.


Solar, Jaedong and Rogue should also be on the list.
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Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
March 15 2014 05:14 GMT
#37
scrutinizing naniwa's quick gg a little too much arent we? im pretty sure we've all realized how much dramatic naniwa is and he's not shy about showing it in public (despite big events)
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
ChoDing
Profile Joined November 2009
United States740 Posts
March 15 2014 05:14 GMT
#38
On March 15 2014 13:58 walsh_walsh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 10:33 BakedButters wrote:
On March 15 2014 09:07 Verator wrote:
On March 15 2014 08:22 DreamTheaterFan wrote:
How would Hyun winning vs herO be a ''massive upset''? I know herO is very good, but so is Hyun...


Hyun is pretty okay, but he isn't even close to top tier korean. herO on the other hand, is in the running for best player overall.


Hyun is top tier zerg. His wins against Dear and Jjackji, and narrow loss to herO shows he can compete with the best. Best zergs atm are Soulkey, Life, Roro, and Hyun.


Solar, Jaedong and Rogue should also be on the list.


naw solar and rogue meh. jd okay
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 15 2014 05:29 GMT
#39
On March 15 2014 14:14 ChoDing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 13:58 walsh_walsh wrote:
On March 15 2014 10:33 BakedButters wrote:
On March 15 2014 09:07 Verator wrote:
On March 15 2014 08:22 DreamTheaterFan wrote:
How would Hyun winning vs herO be a ''massive upset''? I know herO is very good, but so is Hyun...


Hyun is pretty okay, but he isn't even close to top tier korean. herO on the other hand, is in the running for best player overall.


Hyun is top tier zerg. His wins against Dear and Jjackji, and narrow loss to herO shows he can compete with the best. Best zergs atm are Soulkey, Life, Roro, and Hyun.


Solar, Jaedong and Rogue should also be on the list.


naw solar and rogue meh. jd okay

A very easy argument could be made that Rogue is currently in better shape than JD, and a hard one could be made that he is currently in better shape than Hyun and Roro.
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Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
March 15 2014 05:31 GMT
#40
On March 15 2014 12:28 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 10:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 15 2014 10:46 viasacra89 wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/X5lQRki.gif

dat widow mine hit

My favorite hit is the final one. All the mutas are dead, but the last widow mine detonates to kill the lonely overseer.

He also selects the overseer right before it dies



Oh man, I can only imagine the feels right there
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