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lowercase
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1047 Posts
March 06 2014 02:48 GMT
#41
These writeups are fucking incredible. Well done, I thought I couldn't be hyped any more.
That is not dead which can eternal lie...
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 06 2014 03:27 GMT
#42
Wait one hot second, seed won the third ever gsl trophy for auir. I know he is forgettable but that forgettable?
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fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
March 06 2014 03:29 GMT
#43
On March 06 2014 09:36 Die4Ever wrote:
WCS Predictor says

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [Soulkey, Maru, Zest, Dear in GSL S1 Co…] +

- Soulkey is at ~ 18.62 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 49.55 % of the time Soulkey wins and their chances go up to ~ 29.35 %.
~ 50.45 % of the time Soulkey loses and their chances go down to ~ 8.08 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- Maru is at ~ 11.83 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 46.02 % of the time Maru wins and their chances go up to ~ 20.31 %.
~ 53.98 % of the time Maru loses and their chances go down to ~ 4.61 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- Zest is at ~ 25.22 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 53.24 % of the time Zest wins and their chances go up to ~ 37.44 %.
~ 46.76 % of the time Zest loses and their chances go down to ~ 11.31 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- Dear is at ~ 45.00 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 51.19 % of the time Dear wins and their chances go up to ~ 65.29 %.
~ 48.81 % of the time Dear loses and their chances go down to ~ 23.71 %.


http://sc2.4ever.tv/



Awesome job man!

(By the way, small typo in "Possbile Tournament Winners")
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
March 06 2014 03:30 GMT
#44
Great writing
However, I believe in bbyong
Nvidia
Profile Joined March 2014
Denmark2 Posts
March 06 2014 03:33 GMT
#45
im so hyped about zest so i really hope this guy gets out of the group. hm maru has been playing very decent for a while and i've watched him since the prime days, so i'd like him to get further in the gsl aswell. anyway cant wait to see these delicious games, looking forward to them alot. Peace fellow starcraft players and fans.
nothing is impossible
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
March 06 2014 03:34 GMT
#46
Dear and Soulkey advance
KT FlaSh FOREVER
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 03:36:35
March 06 2014 03:35 GMT
#47
Great writeup! When you have 4 players this accomplished, it's almost impossible to predict the outcome. That said, a few points stand out for me:

1. I find it very hard to believe at least one protoss won't get out of this group
2. Although past performance has often been a very poor predictor, you can't ignore that Maru for all his success has a miserable record against his opponents
3. Soulkey is the most consistent player in the world at making final 8's and final 4's. He's the most consistent player in the world, period, a seriously rare quality in sc2.
4. In sc2, you're only as good as your last few weeks, and titles seem to count for little, or even go against you. On that count, Zest is possibly the most favoured in this group as he's been red-hot recently despite not having "accomplished anything" compared with his competition.
5. Zest has long been godly in PvP

Put all that together and I think Zest and Soulkey are slightly favoured to get out of this deadly group alive. That said, I don't think you could say any possible outcome would be an "upset" and that's why tonight's matches are likely to be very memorable.
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
March 06 2014 04:32 GMT
#48
On March 06 2014 11:37 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 11:34 negativedge wrote:
it would be nice if Mouz could loan Dear to an SPL team. he seems like he needs that kind of structure to succeed, and there's little doubt that SPL seems to breed championship contenders. the entire protoss era was born from PvProleague

Well he won WCS KR and the Season 3 finals a few months after PL was over so I wouldn't say he needs it to succeed.


yeah, but nearly every player says it takes a few months for intense training to show results. of course, it's not like he was a slacker during the proleague season either, considering he was the second best player on the championship team and by the end of the season you could make a case for him as the best protoss. he just carried that success to the individual leagues. then he goes to a foreign team and drops severely.
dyDrawer
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada438 Posts
March 06 2014 04:46 GMT
#49
GOOOO DEARRR!!!!
Dear, Rain, PartinG, Trap - "Glory to the Firstborn"
dyDrawer
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada438 Posts
March 06 2014 04:51 GMT
#50
On March 06 2014 13:32 negativedge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 11:37 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 06 2014 11:34 negativedge wrote:
it would be nice if Mouz could loan Dear to an SPL team. he seems like he needs that kind of structure to succeed, and there's little doubt that SPL seems to breed championship contenders. the entire protoss era was born from PvProleague

Well he won WCS KR and the Season 3 finals a few months after PL was over so I wouldn't say he needs it to succeed.


yeah, but nearly every player says it takes a few months for intense training to show results. of course, it's not like he was a slacker during the proleague season either, considering he was the second best player on the championship team and by the end of the season you could make a case for him as the best protoss. he just carried that success to the individual leagues. then he goes to a foreign team and drops severely.


I totally agree with you. I think for a championship player to maintain his form, it's important to have peers and practice partners around that are top level. There are exceptions of course, but Dear surely doesn't look like one. After his miraculous runs, Dear himself said that sOs and Soulkey helped him a great deal in practicing and discussing builds.

No offense, but the Mouz players are certainly a couple of levels below Championship Dear.
Dear, Rain, PartinG, Trap - "Glory to the Firstborn"
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
March 06 2014 05:05 GMT
#51
It is a known fact that players don't exactly practice with their teams exclusively, unless it is for team leagues. Most progamers play and practice with each other regardless of their team affiliation, as evidenced by how many mention players not on their team when thanking people for helping them. Dear isn't (only) practicing with Mouz players, he's practicing with other pros he is close to in Korea.
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VasHeR
Profile Joined June 2011
166 Posts
March 06 2014 05:34 GMT
#52
On March 06 2014 11:48 lowercase wrote:
These writeups are fucking incredible.

SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 05:44:24
March 06 2014 05:39 GMT
#53
So hard to really predict anyone in this group. At first I thought Zest & Soulkey would advance. My favorite in this group is probably Soulkey, so I want him to advance 100%. Zest is probably my least favorite player in this group so honestly I'd rather see Maru or Dear advance over him. Dear does seem like the weakest but you know since his Ro32 showing he has done nothing but practice for GSL.

I actually wouldn't be surprised to see Dear go 4-0 or 4-1 total and win 1st with Soulkey taking 2nd. Maru could also easily take 2nd and leave Zest and Soulkey battleing for 3rd. Maru has been solid in Proleague where as Zest lost to both Bbyong & herO recently and Soulkey lost to Super & DRG.

So, my original prediction was Zest and Soulkey, but after thinking more and more. I'm going with

1st: Dear
2nd: Maru
3rd: Soulkey
4th: Zest

Honestly though, I don't care who really advances because they all deserve it.
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
March 06 2014 05:47 GMT
#54
I absolutely can not wait for tonight! sOs played sooooooo well last night, he's so dam intelligent. Think hes my new favourite protoss
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
Cluster__
Profile Joined September 2013
United States328 Posts
March 06 2014 05:56 GMT
#55
this is such an absurd group. I'll definitely be catching these vods
Liquid`Snute, AcerScarlett, ROOTCatZ, MC, Maru, Soulkey, Losira
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 06:24:32
March 06 2014 06:20 GMT
#56
On March 06 2014 12:27 Promethelax wrote:
Wait one hot second, seed won the third ever gsl trophy for auir. I know he is forgettable but that forgettable?

Yes, he really is, lol! I thought that sounded a bit wrong, but couldn't remember anybody other than Dear and MC winning the GSL as Toss.

Also, barracking for Soulkey (because SKT) and one of either Maru or Dear (because they are the two best players to watch in the group).
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
March 06 2014 06:30 GMT
#57
On March 06 2014 15:20 althaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 12:27 Promethelax wrote:
Wait one hot second, seed won the third ever gsl trophy for auir. I know he is forgettable but that forgettable?

Yes, he really is, lol! I thought that sounded a bit wrong, but couldn't remember anybody other than Dear and MC winning the GSL as Toss.

Also, barracking for Soulkey (because SKT) and one of either Maru or Dear (because they are the two best players to watch in the group).



whos this seed guy
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
March 06 2014 06:52 GMT
#58
Soulkey and Dear will advance, anything else is just crazy
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
ForLethr
Profile Joined November 2013
80 Posts
March 06 2014 07:08 GMT
#59
hoping for Soulkey and Maru
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
March 06 2014 07:18 GMT
#60
Dear will get smashed if he plays like he did in ro32.
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