EPTHyuN owed $23,000 in back pay and prize money by Quantic -…
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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ssxsilver
United States4409 Posts
On January 01 2014 13:39 Maasked wrote: If I remember correctly, quantic collapsed the first time when sponsors pulled out last minute, and the CEO didnt come back to eSports, but that CEO wasnt shady, correct? Im just trying to get it clear weather or not quantic was a legitimate team the first time 'round. Also I feel for you Hyun, post on TL let us know what we can do ok :| You mean Mark Ferraz? Nah that guy was totally legit, just out of his element. The consensus seemed to be that Quantic 1.0 failed because they got too big, too fast. As for Hyun's situation, I just hope he can somehow find the desire to stay in the scene. As one of the Koreans who actually embraced the foreign scene, it'd be a huge loss if we went into the new year w/o his charismatic personality =\... | ||
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Muffinman53
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16765 Posts
every one waited and waited. Then, tragedy of tragedies the owner got bone cancer and was dying. (from what i've read this Simon guy is playing the "lump in his lung" card.) That was 5 years ago, he is now the longest surviving bone cancer patient in medical history. Yes, Miracles do happen people! | ||
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PeopleWhoAnnoyYou
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Maasked
United States567 Posts
On January 01 2014 13:52 ssxsilver wrote: You mean Mark Ferraz? Nah that guy was totally legit, just out of his element. The consensus seemed to be that Quantic 1.0 failed because they got too big, too fast. As for Hyun's situation, I just hope he can somehow find the desire to stay in the scene. As one of the Koreans who actually embraced the foreign scene, it'd be a huge loss if we went into the new year w/o his charismatic personality =\... Yes I do, thanks for the clarification. Ferraz was a pretty cool guy. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
It wasn't the first Quantic/Simon scandal. And it was always reasonably obvious that Simon ran a bit of a micro pyramid scheme there, although it could've been incompetence but I'm not sure anybody would believe that. I sincerely hope that Hyun gets his money and I also hope that Simon either steps up or gets prosecuted. And like I said in the first scandal involving Simon, don't trust a guy who runs a professional team using his dad's credit card. On January 01 2014 13:43 Strangways wrote: The guy can blow off emails. He can't so easily ignore a lawsuit against him filed in Quebec Superior Court. I'm from Quebec and even I don't know which court Hyun should take this to. Federal court? Court of Quebec? The Quebec Superior Court might only look into this if it were $70k+. And the international aspect of this, plus the fact that Hyun doesn't speak much English, means that this is a huge fucking mess. One of the points of having a team is that a team has some collective resources to try to deal with any injustice. When your own team fucks you though, what can you really do... On January 01 2014 13:50 Doodsmack wrote: If I was a player and this happened to me I would be talking to a lawyer pretty quick. Somehow I doubt HyuN has even tried this option. Lawyers are expensive and scared of dealing with international affairs.  | ||
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PeopleWhoAnnoyYou
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
On January 01 2014 14:03 Djzapz wrote: I haven't been following the whole progaming scene lately but yesterday I listened to part of Chanman's show and apparently this journalist guy wrote an article "The land of broken promises" or something. He apparently got a lot of flak for bringing up the fact that a lot of shady business is going on in esports. The international nature of the business and the lack of formal infrastructure means that it's very easy for scumbags like Simon Boudreault to steal people's money. It wasn't the first Quantic/Simon scandal. And it was always reasonably obvious that Simon ran a bit of a micro pyramid scheme there, although it could've been incompetence but I'm not sure anybody would believe that. I sincerely hope that Hyun gets his money and I also hope that Simon either steps up or gets prosecuted. And like I said in the first scandal involving Simon, don't trust a guy who runs a professional team using his dad's credit card. I'm from Quebec and even I don't know which court Hyun should take this to. Federal court? Court of Quebec? The Quebec Superior Court might only look into this if it were $70k+. And the international aspect of this, plus the fact that Hyun doesn't speak much English, means that this is a huge fucking mess. One of the points of having a team is that a team has some collective resources to try to deal with any injustice. When your own team fucks you though, what can you really do... Lawyers are expensive and scared of dealing with international affairs. plus the lawyer would have to hire a private investigator to find the guy probably. then there's the whole issue of if the guy even has the money to pay it because if he doesn't than you've sunk a ton of money that you're probably not going to get back. and that doesn't even take into effect this is international which creates a million more problems. | ||
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
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jax1492
United States1632 Posts
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ArtistenSc2
Sweden53 Posts
Have he made demands of payment from the team? What response if so? it's up to the team to hunt Simon (and solve Hyuns demands)... Simon was employed by the team, right? | ||
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LamaMitHut
Germany187 Posts
please, guys of team liquid, if u read that: make hyun a member of TL. help him, owners of TL. | ||
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Elite_
United States4259 Posts
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
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jubil
United States2602 Posts
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
On January 01 2014 14:13 jax1492 wrote: not a good way to start 2014 Some success story, often involve bad things such as these, and then become so successful so great. Maybe, it is a good way to start 2014 for Hyun. Maybe he will be the Esport Icon in 2014 or something. | ||
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Khai
Australia551 Posts
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mikumegurine
Canada3145 Posts
Wasnt Hyuns contract with the team? Shouldnt the team be the one trying to find out what happened to its money? | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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