HyuN owed $23,000 in back pay and prize money by Quantic -…

On January 01 2014 13:39 Maasked wrote:
If I remember correctly, quantic collapsed the first time when sponsors pulled out last minute, and the CEO didnt come back to eSports, but that CEO wasnt shady, correct?

Im just trying to get it clear weather or not quantic was a legitimate team the first time 'round.

Also I feel for you Hyun, post on TL let us know what we can do ok :|

On January 01 2014 13:52 ssxsilver wrote:

You mean Mark Ferraz? Nah that guy was totally legit, just out of his element. The consensus seemed to be that Quantic 1.0 failed because they got too big, too fast.

As for Hyun's situation, I just hope he can somehow find the desire to stay in the scene. As one of the Koreans who actually embraced the foreign scene, it'd be a huge loss if we went into the new year w/o his charismatic personality =\...

On January 01 2014 13:43 Strangways wrote:
The guy can blow off emails. He can't so easily ignore a lawsuit against him filed in Quebec Superior Court.

On January 01 2014 13:50 Doodsmack wrote:
If I was a player and this happened to me I would be talking to a lawyer pretty quick. Somehow I doubt HyuN has even tried this option.

On January 01 2014 14:03 Djzapz wrote:
I haven't been following the whole progaming scene lately but yesterday I listened to part of Chanman's show and apparently this journalist guy wrote an article "The land of broken promises" or something. He apparently got a lot of flak for bringing up the fact that a lot of shady business is going on in esports. The international nature of the business and the lack of formal infrastructure means that it's very easy for scumbags like Simon Boudreault to steal people's money.

It wasn't the first Quantic/Simon scandal. And it was always reasonably obvious that Simon ran a bit of a micro pyramid scheme there, although it could've been incompetence but I'm not sure anybody would believe that.

I sincerely hope that Hyun gets his money and I also hope that Simon either steps up or gets prosecuted.
And like I said in the first scandal involving Simon, don't trust a guy who runs a professional team using his dad's credit card.


I'm from Quebec and even I don't know which court Hyun should take this to. Federal court? Court of Quebec?

The Quebec Superior Court might only look into this if it were $70k+. And the international aspect of this, plus the fact that Hyun doesn't speak much English, means that this is a huge fucking mess. One of the points of having a team is that a team has some collective resources to try to deal with any injustice. When your own team fucks you though, what can you really do...


Lawyers are expensive and scared of dealing with international affairs.