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Proleague 2014 - Opening Week Preview

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Proleague 2014



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SPL 2014: Opening Week

By: Zealously

Welcome back to another season of Proleague! Almost five months since STX SouL claimed the championship over Woongjin Stars on August 3rd, the oldest and most prestigious team tournament in StarCraft returns with a slew of major changes. Here's a short summary of the most important details:

  • Format changed to Bo5 from Bo7(ace match remains).
  • "A team must field one player of each race" rule removed.
  • Four regular season rounds down from last season's six, but with a twist: each round has its own "playoff" tournament with a round champion.
  • Instead of going purely by record, a point system will determine regular season standings (based on final rank at the end of a round).
  • STX SouL, Woongjin Stars and EG-TL are out, MVP, IM and Prime are in.
  • Team rosters have changed drastically. More info here. For our analysis of these changes, click here.

Alright, got that? Here are the week one match-ups:

December 29th


Team MVP vs. SK Telecom T1
(T)Dream < Yeonsu LE > (P)Rain
(P)Super < Sejong Science Base > (Z)soO
(Z)DongRaeGu < Bel'Shir Vestige LE > (P)PartinG
(Z)Shine < Outboxer > (Z)Soulkey
Ace: Frost LE

Incredible Miracle vs. Prime
(P)Squirtle < Star Station TE > (Z)TerrOr
(P)HerO < Frost LE > (P)Jila (GooJila,Kal)
(P)YongHwa < Yeonsu LE > (P)Creator
(Z)ByuL < Sejong Science Base > (P)Remember (Chance)
Ace: Bel'Shir Vestige LE

December 30th


Samsung KHAN vs. Jin Air Green Wings
(Z)Solar < Bel'Shir Vestige LE > (P)sOs
(P)Stork < Outboxer > (T)Maru
(P)Trend < Frost LE > (Z)Rogue (CliMax,Savage)
(P)eMotion < Yeonsu LE > (P)Terminator
Ace: Star Station TE

KT Rolster vs. CJ Entus
(T)Flash < Bel'Shir Vestige LE > (P)Sora
(P)Stats < Outboxer > (Z)Hydra
(P)Zest < Frost LE > (T)Bbyong
(T)TY < Yeonsu LE > (P)herO
Ace: Star Station TE

December 31st


Team MVP vs. Incredible Miracle
(Z)Sniper < Star Station TE > (P)Squirtle
(Z)Shine < Frost LE > (P)Trap
(T)KeeN < Yeonsu LE > (P)YongHwa
(T)Dream < Sejong Science Base > (Z)ByuL
Ace: Bel'Shir Vestige LE

SK Telecom T1 vs. Prime
(P)Classic < Sejong Science Base > (P)Splendid
(Z)Soulkey < Star Station TE > (P)Jila (GooJila,Kal)
(P)Rain < Outboxer > (P)Creator
(P)PartinG < Bel'Shir Vestige LE > (Z)TerrOr
Ace: Yeonsu LE

With the change from Bo7 to Bo5, it is only natural that the weaker players on each team have been forced out of the line-ups, thus making most matches (I'm sorry, Prime) more competitive. Depth is now more of a luxury than a necessity, and teams with top heavy rosters like KT could go far without having a strong supporting cast.

Here are some things to note for the first week:
  • MVP is fielding (Z)Shine. The MVP Zerg has looked less than great for a long time now, but the fact that he's being sent out twice while (Z)DRG and (P)Super are being used just once must mean something.
  • Team MVP is also deploying (Z)Sniper. After not playing a televised game in three months, it seems like Sniper (this time with the help of (Z)Shine) has once again stolen (Z)DRG's thunder.
  • Prime isn't fielding (T)ByuN at all in the first week. Considering the fact that he was Prime's only saving grace in their horrendous GSTL campaign, it means that Prime has either created a monstrous team of unknowns while we weren't looking, or that there's something up with (T)ByuN.
  • No TvTs in Week 1.
  • 5 PvP, 1 ZvZ, 11 PvZ, 5 PvT, 1 TvZ


Must Watch Matches: Week 1

Even with the length of the matches reduced to best of five, it's hard for anyone but the most devoted fan to watch every Proleague game in a week. To help you all out, here are our recommendations.

Grand Opening - Team MVP vs. SK Telecom T1


Sunday, Dec 29 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
(T)Dream < Yeonsu LE > (P)Rain
(P)Super < Sejong Science Base > (Z)soO
(Z)DongRaeGu < Bel'Shir Vestige LE > (P)PartinG
(Z)Shine < Outboxer > (Z)Soulkey
Ace: Frost LE


The opening match of Proleague could either be thrilling classic or a complete stomp. With the addition of Soulkey, SKT have assembled the most deadly team in Proleague. Not only is Soulkey an individual league champion and the most consistently great player in Korea, he was also the ace of the former SPL runners-up Woongjin Stars. On one hand, the total upending of parity and balance between teams is worrisome. On the other hand, you have to be fascinated by the creation of this super team.

MVP's players are about as consistent as the price of bitcoin, fluctuating between championship-level and junk, sometimes in the same match. Would it be shocking to see MVP score the upset against SKT? Not really. Would it be shocking to see them utterly crushed? Nope, that's in the cards too.

DRG is perhaps the epitome of inconsistency, playing some of his life's best ZvT against Innovation in WCS Korea Season 3 and convincing everyone that he was back to being his old self before getting curb-stomped in the Ro16. Dream, Keen and Super – all pinned as 'the next big thing' at one time or another – share DRG's proclivity for unreliability.

Against a line-up like SKT's, it would be foolish to bet on the entire MVP line-up bringing their A-game, but you get the feeling that at least one of them is going to play fantastic and steal a map off SKT. All four of the match-ups for MVP are winnable on a good day. By tuning into this match, you're accepting that you may be served some of the most intense Starcraft II in the world, or three consecutive bops and a ceremony. Both would be entertaining, to be sure, but for completely different reasons.

Focus Match: (T)Dream < Yeonsu LE > (P)Rain

Rain almost lost the Hot6ix Cup to Soulkey two weeks ago. There, his ability to stay calm in the face of pressure and make the correct calls allowed him to persevere and take the championship. It was a series that showed why he is Artosis' dream player: a safe and standard macro Protoss whose strengths lie in the defensive aspects of the game.

Dream is his polar opposite. He is everything Rain isn't: hyper-aggressive, risk-seeking, and fond of many battles rather than few. It isn't rare that Dream bites off more than he can chew with his aggression and finds himself behind as a result, but his complete dedication to attacking often lets him get back into the game. Keeping up with Dream's tempo is no easy task, and many players have found themselves tripping over their feet.

The dynamic for the match is the the classic immovable object vs. unstoppable force. Rain, the dedicated defender who'll take his time and only move out when he feels he has the victory within reach, versus Dream, a wild berserker who has broken Rain's shield in the past.

CJ Entus vs. KT Rolster


Monday, Dec 30 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
(T)Flash < Bel'Shir Vestige LE > (P)Sora
(P)Stats < Outboxer > (Z)Hydra
(P)Zest < Frost LE > (T)Bbyong
(T)TY < Yeonsu LE > (P)herO
Ace: Star Station TE


More than any other player in Proleague, Flash is intimately familiar with what it's like to carry a team. Thus, the change to Bo5 must have had Flash leaping for joy. No longer does he have to hope that the weak KT bench can win enough games to force an ace match – the trio of him and his lieutenants Zest and Stats are enough to claim victory. The addition of TY (Baby) didn't wow anyone like the Soulkey or sOs signings, but it was still a good move for KT. They now have a strong core four, capable of going up against any team in the league.

Even so, their match against CJ will be a tough one. Despite not signing any big players, the acquisition of former SKT and EG-TL head coach Park Yong Woon has more than made up for it. The team's overall skill level has risen dramatically under his regime – Hydra, Effort, and herO showed potential last season, but they've truly gotten it together in the off-season. herO looked incredible as he beat his countrymen to win IEM Singapore, while Sora made a strong run up to second place in WCG. Additionally the online qualifier scene has been dominated by CJ Entus players, with team-kills being the most frequent cause for their elimination. Even Bbyong, dubbed the heir to the Ensnare throne, blazed through the IEM Sao Paulo qualifiers just last weekend, showing that he's much more than the generic Terran player he was before.

Compared to CJ, KT players have barely shown themselves after the end of the last Proleague season. It's hard to judge exactly where they're at, but right now KT feels a bit lacking when compared man-for-man to CJ Entus. Even so, we know from last season that Proleague is where they bring their best performances.

Focus Match: (T)Flash < Bel'Shir Vestige LE > (P)Sora

Devoted fans of the Korean scene will have seen Sora's name popping up all over the place these last few months. Since his stunning WCG Korea performance, CJ's latest recruit has been making waves both online and offline. He brought home another silver from the WCG Grand Finals where he finished second behind Soulkey, and has been doing well in IEM qualifiers (but is getting team-killed constantly).

Flash has been receiving attention for different reasons. Lacklustre performances at Dreamhack Bucharest and IEM New York, and narrow elimination from yet another difficult group in the GSL have many fans wondering if Flash is truly championship caliber in StarCraft 2. He has played a total of five broadcasted games over the last two and a half months, easily dispatching CoCa in Code A and then getting easily dispatched of by CJ's Bunny.

The rapid improvement he was showing after the initial transition to StarCraft 2 has slowed down considerably, and he did nothing in the off-season to make us think otherwise. Normally, five games doesn't provide enough information to extrapolate anything meaningful, but what was most worrying about Flash was the manner in which he lost his games. He didn't look helpless, but he did look lost at times. Throw Sora's 80% PvT into the equation and things look grim for Flash going into his first match of the season.

But if there is anywhere Flash feels that he is completely in his element, it has to be Proleague. He was arguably Proleague's best player last season, finishing with the most wins while dragging his team to the playoffs. Sora, on the other hand, is a complete rookie in Proleague. If they both play at their best, and we can be reasonably sure that at least Flash will, this match could be a great one, and the one to decide how the teams start off their season.

Hipster Match of the Week + Predictions


This week's Hipster MotW features Samsung Khan going up against whoever they're going to lose to. Samsung weren't good last season, and the "retirement" of their ace JangBi left them looking like a bottom two team headed into the new season. With expectations at an all-time low, Samsung have brought out the most unexpected line-up of week one. They've fielded three relative newcomers in (Z)Solar, (P)Trend and (P)eMotion, dropped RorO, and kept only Stork from last season's regulars. On paper it's a team that could even lose to Prime, but you have to assume the former b-teamers improved a lot during the off-season and earned their starts.

You have to commend Samsung for being willing to take risks. They have absoultely nothing to lose this season, and many fans are already assuming they're going to finish close to last. At worst, Samsung will ride their newcomers to the bad finish everyone is expecting anyway. At best, they can be like last year's Team Eight, with multiple players stepping up out of nowhere to put them in playoff contention. Hipster team of the week? Hipster team of the season, we say.

Week 1 predictions:
SKT > MVP
IM > Prime
Samsung < Jin Air
KT < CJ
MVP > IM
SKT > Prime


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Writers: Zealously.
Photos: silverfire.
Editors: Waxangel.
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16837 Posts
December 28 2013 16:05 GMT
#2
Thanks for the writeup. Let's get ready to rumble~
The Bomber boy
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 28 2013 16:05 GMT
#3
Lets go. Q('.'Q)
KingPaddy
Profile Joined November 2010
1053 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 16:08:04
December 28 2013 16:07 GMT
#4
Oh, come on.. Now Prime doesn't even have Byun?!
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
December 28 2013 16:12 GMT
#5
Lets gooooooo CJ!!!!!!!!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
December 28 2013 16:15 GMT
#6
MVP's players are about as consistent as the price of bitcoin


Great punchline
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
December 28 2013 16:16 GMT
#7
If KT gonna pull victory against CJ, dis gon be gud.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
December 28 2013 16:17 GMT
#8
Great article. Really looking forward to the games, especially KT vs CJ.
+ Show Spoiler +
KT best Korean corporation.
Flash | Mvp
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
December 28 2013 16:18 GMT
#9
I kind of liked the rule stating a team should field at least 1 of each race, now we are guaranteed even more PvP unless the map makers from KeSPA start going full anti protoss maps, like unblinkable mains, safe nats, tucked away ramps between main and nat, far away and open 3rds etc.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
prabhbhambra13
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom424 Posts
December 28 2013 16:20 GMT
#10
T1 Fighting!
SECO SECO SECO
EnderCraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1746 Posts
December 28 2013 16:20 GMT
#11
That's a lot of green TT
SC:BW has a higher skill ceiling than SC2? SC 64 is where it's at brah.
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 16:28:02
December 28 2013 16:21 GMT
#12
"A team must field one player of each race" rule removed.


Lame
This is a bad change for viewership and Korean SC2 longevity.

Too many Protosses >_>
T P Z sagi
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
December 28 2013 16:29 GMT
#13
my God, SKT is so stacked
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
December 28 2013 16:34 GMT
#14
If this HMotW is a new feature, I'm loving it. Poor Prime and Khan.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Cartman_
Profile Joined July 2012
119 Posts
December 28 2013 16:39 GMT
#15
Come on SKT !

KT vs CJ is going to be sick, especially (P)Sora vs (T)Flash. But come on guys, (P)Stork vs (T)Maru and ... (T)TY((T)BaBy) vs (P)herO[jOin] is going to be awesome too (if they're is no 3 - 0).


Some great TvP !

Finally, Last word i wanted to say : " In my Mind Mind Mind " ... MINDTIME FOR THE WIN yo
| SK Telecom T1 | --- | Bisu & BoxeR Forever, FanTaSy, INnoVation, Dark, soO, Dream <3 |
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
December 28 2013 17:02 GMT
#16
good preview, but there's no way MVP (the team) beats IM imo
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invisigoat
Profile Joined March 2013
184 Posts
December 28 2013 17:09 GMT
#17
The only prediction I disagree with is MVP > IM. IM has got that one for sure
Also can't wait for Sora vs. Flash (I put Sora on my FPL team assuming he will beat Flash)
HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE
TronJovolta
Profile Joined April 2013
United States323 Posts
December 28 2013 17:16 GMT
#18
Hmm, I wonder why so many Protoss are being fielded...

-.-
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 28 2013 17:19 GMT
#19
On December 29 2013 02:02 Schelim wrote:
good preview, but there's no way MVP (the team) beats IM imo


Sure there is, don't let your bias cloud your judgement!
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
December 28 2013 17:23 GMT
#20
MVP will win this Proleague. mark my words
TL+ Member
Neptuneajax
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia206 Posts
December 28 2013 17:27 GMT
#21
Wow. Only one match the entire week that does feature a Protoss.
prOPOns
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
Germany60 Posts
December 28 2013 17:45 GMT
#22
oh god guys please stop about the balance and race distribution complaints.
you can be pretty sure that the players that play here didn't pick protoss because they knew it would be a bit imba 1 year later. they picked protoss, because they played it in brood war or they think it was the most stylish one. im also pretty sure that the coach played them because they are the best players for the given situation and not because "they are protoss, they win ezpz".

i also do not like the distribution that hard, but if you dont like it you dont have to watch it, noone forces you to watch this weeks proleague. besides that: heads up these: guys, proleague is every week, these rosters is just for one week, next week there might be even a bit more terrans playing or you might get lucky and see a tvt *-*

tl;dr guys calm down. its just for one week and if you dont like it dont watch
★ Kim Taek Yong <3 ★ SKT1.PartinG <3 ★ SKT1.Classic ★ CJ.Sora ★ EG.Jaedong ★
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
December 28 2013 17:47 GMT
#23
Can't wait, this will be the best season of PL ever, sooo many good players
The matches of the first play day are great, MVP vs SKT will be closer than many think, though SKT is the clear fav of course. Already looking forward to all the fanboi tears when Sora stomps Flash.
Get off my lawn, young punks
E.H Eager
Profile Joined August 2011
United States227 Posts
December 28 2013 17:55 GMT
#24
That potshot at khan...lol.

Great write up, I'm really looking forward to the new season.
Cartman_
Profile Joined July 2012
119 Posts
December 28 2013 18:16 GMT
#25
On December 29 2013 02:47 ACrow wrote:
Can't wait, this will be the best season of PL ever, sooo many good players
The matches of the first play day are great, MVP vs SKT will be closer than many think, though SKT is the clear fav of course. Already looking forward to all the fanboi tears when Sora stomps Flash.


Really ? Best Season of PL ever ? Dude, a PL without (P)Bisu can't be the best season ever
| SK Telecom T1 | --- | Bisu & BoxeR Forever, FanTaSy, INnoVation, Dark, soO, Dream <3 |
prOPOns
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
Germany60 Posts
December 28 2013 18:51 GMT
#26
On December 29 2013 03:16 Cartman_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 02:47 ACrow wrote:
Can't wait, this will be the best season of PL ever, sooo many good players
The matches of the first play day are great, MVP vs SKT will be closer than many think, though SKT is the clear fav of course. Already looking forward to all the fanboi tears when Sora stomps Flash.


Really ? Best Season of PL ever ? Dude, a PL without (P)Bisu can't be the best season ever


I have to agree on that one haha
★ Kim Taek Yong <3 ★ SKT1.PartinG <3 ★ SKT1.Classic ★ CJ.Sora ★ EG.Jaedong ★
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
December 28 2013 18:51 GMT
#27
PvProleague
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
December 28 2013 19:07 GMT
#28
Hyyyyyyype! So excited for this proleague, I guess because it's been so long since we had one. WCS, take note.
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prOPOns
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
Germany60 Posts
December 28 2013 19:09 GMT
#29
I just hope PartinG does well, I also hope Rain doesn't fail in ace matches as last season and I hope FanTaSy can play more over the course of the PL. I also hope that CJ will rock under command of Coach Park aswell as I hope that SK doesn't fill the SKT Zerg line.

Hmh overall this seems quite CJ - SKT fanboi-ic. I hope they both get into finals
★ Kim Taek Yong <3 ★ SKT1.PartinG <3 ★ SKT1.Classic ★ CJ.Sora ★ EG.Jaedong ★
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
December 28 2013 19:13 GMT
#30
11 pvz's!

It's like heaven :D
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
December 28 2013 19:26 GMT
#31
I see so much GREEN...T_T.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
huller20
Profile Joined August 2010
United States112 Posts
December 28 2013 19:28 GMT
#32
This stuff is at 3:00 am...hope the vods are free.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 28 2013 19:34 GMT
#33
On December 29 2013 04:28 huller20 wrote:
This stuff is at 3:00 am...hope the vods are free.


3 am is pretty okay on a weekend - like the west coast MLGs for europeans. But yes, they'll be on the youtube chsnnel I think.
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
December 28 2013 19:34 GMT
#34
26 Protosses, 13 zergs, and just 6 terrans. Interesting...Anyway I think the predictions are basically spot on. Gogo MVP and IM!
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 20:11:13
December 28 2013 19:52 GMT
#35
On December 29 2013 03:51 prOPOns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 03:16 Cartman_ wrote:
On December 29 2013 02:47 ACrow wrote:
Can't wait, this will be the best season of PL ever, sooo many good players
The matches of the first play day are great, MVP vs SKT will be closer than many think, though SKT is the clear fav of course. Already looking forward to all the fanboi tears when Sora stomps Flash.


Really ? Best Season of PL ever ? Dude, a PL without (P)Bisu can't be the best season ever


I have to agree on that one haha

I should maybe clarify that I never cared for BW, so it's looking to be the best out of a pool of 2.5 Proleagues
Get off my lawn, young punks
rafaliusz
Profile Joined December 2009
Poland482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 20:31:26
December 28 2013 20:30 GMT
#36
On December 29 2013 04:52 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 03:51 prOPOns wrote:
On December 29 2013 03:16 Cartman_ wrote:
On December 29 2013 02:47 ACrow wrote:
Can't wait, this will be the best season of PL ever, sooo many good players
The matches of the first play day are great, MVP vs SKT will be closer than many think, though SKT is the clear fav of course. Already looking forward to all the fanboi tears when Sora stomps Flash.


Really ? Best Season of PL ever ? Dude, a PL without (P)Bisu can't be the best season ever


I have to agree on that one haha

I should maybe clarify that I never cared for BW, so it's looking to be the best out of a pool of 2.5 Proleagues


Yep you should. This still doesn't change the fact that this:

On December 29 2013 02:47 ACrow wrote:
this will be the best season of PL ever,


looks kinda silly if you "never cared for BW" and make such judgements based on 2 Proleagues.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
December 28 2013 20:53 GMT
#37
On December 29 2013 05:30 rafaliusz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 04:52 ACrow wrote:
On December 29 2013 03:51 prOPOns wrote:
On December 29 2013 03:16 Cartman_ wrote:
On December 29 2013 02:47 ACrow wrote:
Can't wait, this will be the best season of PL ever, sooo many good players
The matches of the first play day are great, MVP vs SKT will be closer than many think, though SKT is the clear fav of course. Already looking forward to all the fanboi tears when Sora stomps Flash.


Really ? Best Season of PL ever ? Dude, a PL without (P)Bisu can't be the best season ever


I have to agree on that one haha

I should maybe clarify that I never cared for BW, so it's looking to be the best out of a pool of 2.5 Proleagues


Yep you should. This still doesn't change the fact that this:

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On December 29 2013 02:47 ACrow wrote:
this will be the best season of PL ever,


looks kinda silly if you "never cared for BW" and make such judgements based on 2 Proleagues.

From the two (and a half if you want to count Frankenstein PL) I think this is going to be the best yet IN MY OPINION. I'm just hyped for it. Gosh, why do some people have to always be so negative about everything? Drives me crazy.
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WetSocks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States953 Posts
December 28 2013 21:06 GMT
#38
The dynamic for the match is the the classic immovable object vs. unstoppable force.


The brute force shall win!
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Charlie Sheens House51470 Posts
December 28 2013 21:11 GMT
#39
Prime already going full IM coach here xD
Like you said the bo5 format really does cater for the smaller squads so the ability to field a strong line up without having the squad size of IM or SKT T1 should be in Primes benefit, but when their best player isn't in their first two matches you must think WTF is going on!

On paper these matches look to be won already, but as in any sport, things do change. People get better, people get lucky, some people don't even turn up. So lets find out what happens over this exciting week 1 :D

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DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 21:14:13
December 28 2013 21:13 GMT
#40
As usual rooting for all rookies as hell especially for KHAN ones
prOPOns
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
Germany60 Posts
December 28 2013 21:28 GMT
#41
I still hope for MarineKing to come back to SC2 and Prime will 3-0 SKT1. Because Bisu sees that and Bisu think SKT1 cant do shits without him, he comes back and allkills everyone.
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Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
December 28 2013 21:30 GMT
#42
MVP no protoss wut?
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wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
December 28 2013 21:37 GMT
#43
Wow...from 29th to 31st, there are 7 Terran players playing...and 27 Protoss players playing...
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r691175002
Profile Joined October 2012
249 Posts
December 28 2013 21:40 GMT
#44
Don't be silly, once Terrans adapt to the match-ups they will show up more in Proleague.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 28 2013 22:05 GMT
#45
get hyped
Dragoonstorm7
Profile Joined December 2012
United States599 Posts
December 28 2013 22:25 GMT
#46
I kinda wish we could see more than 4 players from each team (Im assuming ace match would probably just be one of the first 4 players and not a new one, tho I guess this could happen)
Also that Prime lineup... .... ...........
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negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
December 28 2013 23:37 GMT
#47
do we have any idea who is casting on the English stream?
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2547 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 23:41:19
December 28 2013 23:41 GMT
#48
Most likely someone said it already but..

"A team must field one player of each race" rule removed."

PvProleague at his finest incoming !
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 28 2013 23:46 GMT
#49
On December 29 2013 08:37 negativedge wrote:
do we have any idea who is casting on the English stream?


Brendan Valdes, Wolf and Moonglade
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YuiHirasawa
Profile Joined August 2012
Japan220 Posts
December 29 2013 01:24 GMT
#50
ProtossLeague. I'll try to watch anyway but I am not sure what to expect.
Fun things are fun
Tamagoshi
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil981 Posts
December 29 2013 01:31 GMT
#51
On December 29 2013 08:41 sM.Zik wrote:
Most likely someone said it already but..

"A team must field one player of each race" rule removed."

PvProleague at his finest incoming !

I think that they changed the rule to field at least 2 races
Strangways
Profile Joined October 2013
United States13 Posts
December 29 2013 01:32 GMT
#52
SKT1 has one heck of an intimidating lineup there.
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
December 29 2013 01:39 GMT
#53
Week 1 always brings out some crazy new strats, especially with extended time off. Can't wait to see it.
STX Fighting!
MirageTaN
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore871 Posts
December 29 2013 03:08 GMT
#54
Nah CJ_entus has got this in the bag SUCKAS
#TLWIN TI7, TLDota BEST TL
MirageTaN
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore871 Posts
December 29 2013 03:09 GMT
#55
Wait a minute . MVP is suddenly my new favourite team. No protosses for a match! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
#TLWIN TI7, TLDota BEST TL
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8229 Posts
December 29 2013 03:39 GMT
#56
So much Protoss... Only one TvZ. What the hell happened to Proleague?
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 29 2013 03:43 GMT
#57
On December 29 2013 12:39 geokilla wrote:
So much Protoss... Only one TvZ. What the hell happened to Proleague?


Got to get that mandatory 3 race rule back
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mykillandjello
Profile Joined November 2013
United States29 Posts
December 29 2013 04:16 GMT
#58
too many protoss's. And it isnt a coincidence. Toss is broken in respect to terran and zerg.

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danmanjones
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand19 Posts
December 29 2013 04:42 GMT
#59
In the IM v Prime matchup, there's a HerO playing on IM...it links to TL HerO

It seems like HerO has switched from TL to IM. .... Am I missing something?
Go Go Lee Jaedong!!
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 05:17:08
December 29 2013 05:02 GMT
#60
On December 29 2013 13:42 danmanjones wrote:
In the IM v Prime matchup, there's a HerO playing on IM...it links to TL HerO

It seems like HerO has switched from TL to IM. .... Am I missing something?


Hes a mercenary for IM, which i dont know why its even allowed, only players on the team should be able to play IMO. Why not just let jaedong play for jin air? let half of startale play for prime...
KobayshiMaru
Profile Joined February 2012
United States30 Posts
December 29 2013 05:12 GMT
#61
Excited for some fresh new SC2!
Anybody mind if I roll need!
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
December 29 2013 05:14 GMT
#62
MVP over IM? Please be wrong, IM was my hipster value pick.
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
Thyrym
Profile Joined December 2013
89 Posts
December 29 2013 05:15 GMT
#63
Who will be casting the matches ?
Tastosis ?

Rooting for KT....
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
December 29 2013 05:19 GMT
#64
Also this race distribution is awful. I hate pvp and pvz...
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
crimsonlink
Profile Joined March 2013
United States53 Posts
December 29 2013 11:19 GMT
#65
Ice cold on the Prime team! ;_; They will prove you wrong!
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 12:45:01
December 29 2013 12:19 GMT
#66
Wrong thread.
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
December 29 2013 15:35 GMT
#67
What happened to 2v2?
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 29 2013 17:35 GMT
#68
On December 30 2013 00:35 thezanursic wrote:
What happened to 2v2?


Only the pre-season
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insitelol
Profile Joined August 2012
845 Posts
December 29 2013 18:04 GMT
#69
Have to agree that CJ vs KT is going to be so sick!
Less is more.
fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
December 29 2013 22:11 GMT
#70
On December 29 2013 14:02 skatblast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 13:42 danmanjones wrote:
In the IM v Prime matchup, there's a HerO playing on IM...it links to TL HerO

It seems like HerO has switched from TL to IM. .... Am I missing something?


Hes a mercenary for IM, which i dont know why its even allowed, only players on the team should be able to play IMO. Why not just let jaedong play for jin air? let half of startale play for prime...


I too would like to know how or why this is allowed. Keep a small roster, then go pull the best player you can find from a non-proleague team!

Enjoyed today's cast though, the creator game was a hoot. Really looking forward to Flash's game on Monday.
Ex Zerg learning Terran. A bold move.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
December 29 2013 22:38 GMT
#71
On December 30 2013 07:11 fruity. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 14:02 skatblast wrote:
On December 29 2013 13:42 danmanjones wrote:
In the IM v Prime matchup, there's a HerO playing on IM...it links to TL HerO

It seems like HerO has switched from TL to IM. .... Am I missing something?


Hes a mercenary for IM, which i dont know why its even allowed, only players on the team should be able to play IMO. Why not just let jaedong play for jin air? let half of startale play for prime...


I too would like to know how or why this is allowed. Keep a small roster, then go pull the best player you can find from a non-proleague team!

Enjoyed today's cast though, the creator game was a hoot. Really looking forward to Flash's game on Monday.

Because he lives in the IM house which pretty much makes him a member of the team, the only difference is who is paying him.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 30 2013 01:24 GMT
#72
On December 30 2013 07:38 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 07:11 fruity. wrote:
On December 29 2013 14:02 skatblast wrote:
On December 29 2013 13:42 danmanjones wrote:
In the IM v Prime matchup, there's a HerO playing on IM...it links to TL HerO

It seems like HerO has switched from TL to IM. .... Am I missing something?


Hes a mercenary for IM, which i dont know why its even allowed, only players on the team should be able to play IMO. Why not just let jaedong play for jin air? let half of startale play for prime...


I too would like to know how or why this is allowed. Keep a small roster, then go pull the best player you can find from a non-proleague team!

Enjoyed today's cast though, the creator game was a hoot. Really looking forward to Flash's game on Monday.

Because he lives in the IM house which pretty much makes him a member of the team, the only difference is who is paying him.


Them partnerships anyway, I'm laughing at the other guys response because I'd hardly consider HerO one of the best options at the moment because he's really not been playing well in pvps. As for Jaedong and other guys going. Yeah, I'm getting tired of these partnerships. Shows you just how unsustainable it is. It's not like IM don't have enough players as is because they do. Heck, they even went out to pick up Trap who I'd say is a little bit better at the moment when it comes to PvP. Yes, it allows HerO stay and train in Korea in a team house, but I really think players should just switch teams if they want to do things like this because they shouldn't be allowed to get the best of both worlds. There needs to be a little more of a trade off.
HYRULE15
Profile Joined September 2013
Germany72 Posts
December 30 2013 18:49 GMT
#73
Rain too handsome.
gade1123
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
United States144 Posts
December 30 2013 23:02 GMT
#74
gotta say i'm looking forward to this proleague, though i miss the good old days (violet times)
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Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
December 31 2013 13:26 GMT
#75
With the change to Bo3 format, I feel like my favourite team would do really well this season!

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=90341
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Regtic
Profile Joined December 2013
Canada11 Posts
January 01 2014 04:51 GMT
#76
when is the next proleague? Where can I find a schedule?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 01 2014 04:52 GMT
#77
On January 01 2014 13:51 Regtic wrote:
when is the next proleague? Where can I find a schedule?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Proleague/Round_1
Regtic
Profile Joined December 2013
Canada11 Posts
January 01 2014 05:11 GMT
#78
thanks!
Chromanin
Profile Joined April 2012
United States11 Posts
January 02 2014 00:25 GMT
#79
Is there a place where i can check the vods legally for free?
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Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
January 02 2014 03:23 GMT
#80
On January 02 2014 09:25 Chromanin wrote:
Is there a place where i can check the vods legally for free?

There are three ways:

1) Go straight to SPL's intended source for VODs: http://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV/videos?view=0 or http://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV/videos?flow=grid&view=50&shelf_id=39 or http://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV/videos?flow=grid&view=50&shelf_id=38 but they are not spoiler-free.

2) Go to Liquipedia: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Proleague/Round_1 and under matches click "Show" and click the TV sets at the bottom, but they are also not spoiler-free.

3) Go to the LR threads and click VODs at the end of the OP: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=36 These are spoiler-free.
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Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
January 02 2014 04:46 GMT
#81
On January 02 2014 12:23 juicyjames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2014 09:25 Chromanin wrote:
Is there a place where i can check the vods legally for free?

There are three ways:

1) Go straight to SPL's intended source for VODs: http://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV/videos?view=0 or http://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV/videos?flow=grid&view=50&shelf_id=39 or http://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV/videos?flow=grid&view=50&shelf_id=38 but they are not spoiler-free.

2) Go to Liquipedia: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Proleague/Round_1 and under matches click "Show" and click the TV sets at the bottom, but they are also not spoiler-free.

3) Go to the LR threads and click VODs at the end of the OP: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=36 These are spoiler-free.


In addition I find sc2links.com to be a simple way to navigate spoiler-free VODs; much better than trying to go directly through Youtube which is rife with spoilers (you open a playlist for a match and see it has only 3 videos; guess what that means...?):

http://www.sc2links.com/tournament.php?tournament=SK Telecom Proleague 2014
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