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On January 14 2014 06:44 mikumegurine wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2014 06:41 StutteR wrote:On January 14 2014 06:40 mikumegurine wrote:On January 14 2014 06:38 Squat wrote:On January 14 2014 06:34 mikumegurine wrote:On January 14 2014 06:31 Squat wrote:
I mean clear cut case of cheating if there is compelling evidence. Surely if such behavior is proven it would be cause for a DQ. i dont think quitting a game is cheating though for example, back in the beta or early WoL? or so i faced idra i wasnt playing that well that day, and i didnt want to get reamed so i just said hi then quit the game immediately at the start should that game not count as a win for him? Teammates leaving instantly until he gets to the exact number of wins needed to qualify? Come on. would you rather have his teammates go afk for 5 minutes, and make Xy just proxy 2 rax and kill their nexus and afk probes to get the win? it would be the same thing both are wrong so what if his teammates build for 5 minutes, then right click move entire army in XY's for XY to easily kill if it "right" then? would that be "real win"?
Are you trying to justify cheating by saying that they could've cheated longer?
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On January 14 2014 06:44 mikumegurine wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2014 06:41 StutteR wrote:On January 14 2014 06:40 mikumegurine wrote:On January 14 2014 06:38 Squat wrote:On January 14 2014 06:34 mikumegurine wrote:On January 14 2014 06:31 Squat wrote:
I mean clear cut case of cheating if there is compelling evidence. Surely if such behavior is proven it would be cause for a DQ. i dont think quitting a game is cheating though for example, back in the beta or early WoL? or so i faced idra i wasnt playing that well that day, and i didnt want to get reamed so i just said hi then quit the game immediately at the start should that game not count as a win for him? Teammates leaving instantly until he gets to the exact number of wins needed to qualify? Come on. would you rather have his teammates go afk for 5 minutes, and make Xy just proxy 2 rax and kill their nexus and afk probes to get the win? it would be the same thing both are wrong so what if his teammates build for 5 minutes, then right click move entire army in XY's for XY to easily kill if it "right" then? would that be "real win"?
What about you both enter the game, say gl, and play to the best of your abilities?
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On January 14 2014 06:42 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2014 06:40 mikumegurine wrote:On January 14 2014 06:38 Squat wrote:On January 14 2014 06:34 mikumegurine wrote:On January 14 2014 06:31 Squat wrote:
I mean clear cut case of cheating if there is compelling evidence. Surely if such behavior is proven it would be cause for a DQ. i dont think quitting a game is cheating though for example, back in the beta or early WoL? or so i faced idra i wasnt playing that well that day, and i didnt want to get reamed so i just said hi then quit the game immediately at the start should that game not count as a win for him? Teammates leaving instantly until he gets to the exact number of wins needed to qualify? Come on. would you rather have his teammates go afk for 5 minutes, and make Xy just proxy 2 rax and kill their nexus and afk probes to get the win? it would be the same thing how can you require players to play exactly the way you want them to, you cant afk, you must build 10 probes, you must build cyber core, if you dont, and are afk, or play bad, the win doesnt count? the biggest problem here is probably how he faced his teammates over and over again, usualy its not that easy to face the same opponents Or they could, you know, not abuse the system and play real games. Blizzard would permaban accounts over this stuff in WoW with no warnings.
are you sure about that in WoW? mostly it was really hard to face the same opponents in WoW Arena
and even when you did, one team could just play badly and allow the other team to kill them for win
how are you going to take that win away, just cause the opponent did not play perfect that time?
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On January 14 2014 06:44 mikumegurine wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2014 06:41 StutteR wrote:On January 14 2014 06:40 mikumegurine wrote:On January 14 2014 06:38 Squat wrote:On January 14 2014 06:34 mikumegurine wrote:On January 14 2014 06:31 Squat wrote:
I mean clear cut case of cheating if there is compelling evidence. Surely if such behavior is proven it would be cause for a DQ. i dont think quitting a game is cheating though for example, back in the beta or early WoL? or so i faced idra i wasnt playing that well that day, and i didnt want to get reamed so i just said hi then quit the game immediately at the start should that game not count as a win for him? Teammates leaving instantly until he gets to the exact number of wins needed to qualify? Come on. would you rather have his teammates go afk for 5 minutes, and make Xy just proxy 2 rax and kill their nexus and afk probes to get the win? it would be the same thing both are wrong so what if his teammates build for 5 minutes, then right click move entire army in XY's for XY to easily kill if it "right" then? would that be "real win"?
Are you literally not able to understand what everyone is saying or are you just argueing for the sake of argueing?
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On January 14 2014 06:45 StutteR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2014 06:44 mikumegurine wrote:On January 14 2014 06:41 StutteR wrote:On January 14 2014 06:40 mikumegurine wrote:On January 14 2014 06:38 Squat wrote:On January 14 2014 06:34 mikumegurine wrote:On January 14 2014 06:31 Squat wrote:
I mean clear cut case of cheating if there is compelling evidence. Surely if such behavior is proven it would be cause for a DQ. i dont think quitting a game is cheating though for example, back in the beta or early WoL? or so i faced idra i wasnt playing that well that day, and i didnt want to get reamed so i just said hi then quit the game immediately at the start should that game not count as a win for him? Teammates leaving instantly until he gets to the exact number of wins needed to qualify? Come on. would you rather have his teammates go afk for 5 minutes, and make Xy just proxy 2 rax and kill their nexus and afk probes to get the win? it would be the same thing both are wrong so what if his teammates build for 5 minutes, then right click move entire army in XY's for XY to easily kill if it "right" then? would that be "real win"? What about you both enter the game, say gl, and play to the best of your abilities?
yes im saying how should you be determined of each players "best of their abilities"
for example, i posted earlier
but i immediately left a game when I found i was matched up vs Idra, during early WoL
should he not get a win? that win doesnt count?
what if someone gets disconnected, does the opponent not get a win?
what if a player drone rushes, and they lose, should the opponent not get a win?
drone rush wins and losses dont count?
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On January 14 2014 06:45 mikumegurine wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2014 06:42 Squat wrote:On January 14 2014 06:40 mikumegurine wrote:On January 14 2014 06:38 Squat wrote:On January 14 2014 06:34 mikumegurine wrote:On January 14 2014 06:31 Squat wrote:
I mean clear cut case of cheating if there is compelling evidence. Surely if such behavior is proven it would be cause for a DQ. i dont think quitting a game is cheating though for example, back in the beta or early WoL? or so i faced idra i wasnt playing that well that day, and i didnt want to get reamed so i just said hi then quit the game immediately at the start should that game not count as a win for him? Teammates leaving instantly until he gets to the exact number of wins needed to qualify? Come on. would you rather have his teammates go afk for 5 minutes, and make Xy just proxy 2 rax and kill their nexus and afk probes to get the win? it would be the same thing how can you require players to play exactly the way you want them to, you cant afk, you must build 10 probes, you must build cyber core, if you dont, and are afk, or play bad, the win doesnt count? the biggest problem here is probably how he faced his teammates over and over again, usualy its not that easy to face the same opponents Or they could, you know, not abuse the system and play real games. Blizzard would permaban accounts over this stuff in WoW with no warnings. are you sure about that in WoW? mostly it was really hard to face the same opponents in WoW Arena and even when you did, one team could just play badly and allow the other team to kill them for win how are you going to take that win away, just cause the opponent did not play perfect that time?
I'm beginning to suspect I am being trolled now. I think I'll stop here.
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On January 14 2014 06:47 mikumegurine wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2014 06:45 StutteR wrote:On January 14 2014 06:44 mikumegurine wrote:On January 14 2014 06:41 StutteR wrote:On January 14 2014 06:40 mikumegurine wrote:On January 14 2014 06:38 Squat wrote:On January 14 2014 06:34 mikumegurine wrote:On January 14 2014 06:31 Squat wrote:
I mean clear cut case of cheating if there is compelling evidence. Surely if such behavior is proven it would be cause for a DQ. i dont think quitting a game is cheating though for example, back in the beta or early WoL? or so i faced idra i wasnt playing that well that day, and i didnt want to get reamed so i just said hi then quit the game immediately at the start should that game not count as a win for him? Teammates leaving instantly until he gets to the exact number of wins needed to qualify? Come on. would you rather have his teammates go afk for 5 minutes, and make Xy just proxy 2 rax and kill their nexus and afk probes to get the win? it would be the same thing both are wrong so what if his teammates build for 5 minutes, then right click move entire army in XY's for XY to easily kill if it "right" then? would that be "real win"? What about you both enter the game, say gl, and play to the best of your abilities? yes im saying how should you be determined of each players "best of their abilities" for example, i posted earlier but i immediately left a game when I found i was matched up vs Idra, during early WoL should he not get a win? that win doesnt count? what if someone gets disconnected, does the opponent not get a win? what if a player drone rushes, and they lose, should the opponent not get a win? drone rush wins and losses dont count?
.. There is no reason argueing with you, you keep repeating stupid nonesense that is about something completly unrelated to the topic.
On January 14 2014 06:47 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2014 06:45 mikumegurine wrote:On January 14 2014 06:42 Squat wrote:On January 14 2014 06:40 mikumegurine wrote:On January 14 2014 06:38 Squat wrote:On January 14 2014 06:34 mikumegurine wrote:On January 14 2014 06:31 Squat wrote:
I mean clear cut case of cheating if there is compelling evidence. Surely if such behavior is proven it would be cause for a DQ. i dont think quitting a game is cheating though for example, back in the beta or early WoL? or so i faced idra i wasnt playing that well that day, and i didnt want to get reamed so i just said hi then quit the game immediately at the start should that game not count as a win for him? Teammates leaving instantly until he gets to the exact number of wins needed to qualify? Come on. would you rather have his teammates go afk for 5 minutes, and make Xy just proxy 2 rax and kill their nexus and afk probes to get the win? it would be the same thing how can you require players to play exactly the way you want them to, you cant afk, you must build 10 probes, you must build cyber core, if you dont, and are afk, or play bad, the win doesnt count? the biggest problem here is probably how he faced his teammates over and over again, usualy its not that easy to face the same opponents Or they could, you know, not abuse the system and play real games. Blizzard would permaban accounts over this stuff in WoW with no warnings. are you sure about that in WoW? mostly it was really hard to face the same opponents in WoW Arena and even when you did, one team could just play badly and allow the other team to kill them for win how are you going to take that win away, just cause the opponent did not play perfect that time? I'm beginning to suspect I am being trolled now. I think I'll stop here.
No matter if troll or not, if we ignore him from here on he will hopefully go away
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On January 14 2014 06:47 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2014 06:45 mikumegurine wrote:On January 14 2014 06:42 Squat wrote:On January 14 2014 06:40 mikumegurine wrote:On January 14 2014 06:38 Squat wrote:On January 14 2014 06:34 mikumegurine wrote:On January 14 2014 06:31 Squat wrote:
I mean clear cut case of cheating if there is compelling evidence. Surely if such behavior is proven it would be cause for a DQ. i dont think quitting a game is cheating though for example, back in the beta or early WoL? or so i faced idra i wasnt playing that well that day, and i didnt want to get reamed so i just said hi then quit the game immediately at the start should that game not count as a win for him? Teammates leaving instantly until he gets to the exact number of wins needed to qualify? Come on. would you rather have his teammates go afk for 5 minutes, and make Xy just proxy 2 rax and kill their nexus and afk probes to get the win? it would be the same thing how can you require players to play exactly the way you want them to, you cant afk, you must build 10 probes, you must build cyber core, if you dont, and are afk, or play bad, the win doesnt count? the biggest problem here is probably how he faced his teammates over and over again, usualy its not that easy to face the same opponents Or they could, you know, not abuse the system and play real games. Blizzard would permaban accounts over this stuff in WoW with no warnings. are you sure about that in WoW? mostly it was really hard to face the same opponents in WoW Arena and even when you did, one team could just play badly and allow the other team to kill them for win how are you going to take that win away, just cause the opponent did not play perfect that time? I'm beginning to suspect I am being trolled now. I think I'll stop here.
if a player plays at 50% ability, how do you determine that?
if a player gets disconnected, the opponent gets a win, does that not count? do you not understand?
you 2 only think in black and white, nothing in between
you brought up WoW, it wasnt easy to face your friends over and over
and when you did, how can Blizzard actually measure if someone players perfectly or if they just not playing good that day and the other team wins? you cant ban or take away wins for someone not playing perfectly
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Throwing a game is cheating. They would DQ you in the Olympics for it, even if losing the match was to your advantage. It violate the sacred rule of sports:
Thou shall not intentionally throw.
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I hope they stream check vs Bomber, but I am not really sure if they will 
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+ Show Spoiler +Wowowowow. I don't know if its just Avilo or if its the map, I love it. Maybe a bit too T favoured? Dunno, but what a game.
Opps, wrong thread.
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On January 14 2014 06:51 Plansix wrote:
Throwing a game is cheating. They would DQ you in the Olympics for it, even if losing the match was to your advantage. It violate the sacred rule of sports:
Thou shall not intentionally throw.
At the 2012 olympics, one of the best Badminton teams in the world (also chinese I think) was DQ'd after throwing a match to get a better seed.
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On January 14 2014 06:51 Plansix wrote:
Throwing a game is cheating. They would DQ you in the Olympics for it, even if losing the match was to your advantage. It violate the sacred rule of sports:
Thou shall not intentionally throw.
But how can you determine if leaving instantly is playing to the best of their ability or not!? Maybe they have some weird muscular dysfunction that causes their neck muscles to spasm so they headbutt the keyboard and accidentally hit F10 N, about 20 times huh!? Ever thought about that!?
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On January 14 2014 06:51 Plansix wrote:
Throwing a game is cheating. They would DQ you in the Olympics for it, even if losing the match was to your advantage. It violate the sacred rule of sports:
Thou shall not intentionally throw.
throwing a game is cheating ok, what about the example i posted earlier where i just quit games when i faced idra?
he gets the win, hes cheating, so idra should be banned?
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On January 14 2014 06:52 Tamagoshi wrote:I hope they stream check vs Bomber, but I am not really sure if they will
how can they not?
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Bomber vs. Xenocider in the ro16. Thanks NASL
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On January 14 2014 06:53 mikumegurine wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2014 06:51 Plansix wrote:
Throwing a game is cheating. They would DQ you in the Olympics for it, even if losing the match was to your advantage. It violate the sacred rule of sports:
Thou shall not intentionally throw. throwing a game is cheating ok, what about the example i posted earlier where i just quit games when i faced idra? he gets the win, hes cheating, so idra should be banned?
no you should be the one banned not idra
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On January 14 2014 06:54 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2014 06:53 mikumegurine wrote:On January 14 2014 06:51 Plansix wrote:
Throwing a game is cheating. They would DQ you in the Olympics for it, even if losing the match was to your advantage. It violate the sacred rule of sports:
Thou shall not intentionally throw. throwing a game is cheating ok, what about the example i posted earlier where i just quit games when i faced idra? he gets the win, hes cheating, so idra should be banned? no you should be the one banned not idra
ok then Xy's teamates should be banned, not XY?
do you not get what im saying? there should be another category besides wins and losses if Blizzard really wants to do this perfectly
like in Wins/losses/disconnects
matches that end early or without kills count as disconnects
it shouldnt be left up to a NASL admin to take away wins from people, when people just quit their games
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On January 14 2014 06:53 Dinotramp wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2014 06:52 Tamagoshi wrote:I hope they stream check vs Bomber, but I am not really sure if they will how can they not?
Maybe they will stream avilo vs Kawikaakira instead. You never know what they are thinking
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On January 14 2014 06:53 NovaMB wrote:
Bomber vs. Xenocider in the ro16. Thanks NASL
You are welcome...
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