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LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 17:15:34
December 24 2013 17:14 GMT
#481
Why is everyone talking about (T)Maru and (T)Flash? Don't people realize (T)Mvp is playing in this?
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
December 24 2013 17:17 GMT
#482
On December 25 2013 02:04 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2013 02:02 Darkhoarse wrote:
On December 25 2013 01:56 Shellshock wrote:
On December 24 2013 23:14 Zealously wrote:
On December 24 2013 23:13 DavoS wrote:
So from what I can tell from the thread, this "Proleague" thing is a Flash vs Maru showmatch?

Sora4MVP

Pretty sure SKT Classic is going to go like 40-0

Classic lost to someone on Prime in preseason things are looking bleak.

He wasn't taking it seriously. He's waiting to be worth 3 points in FPL so everyone will waste their time picking Rain, Parting, and Soulkey and then he will carry SKT as the ace

It all makes sense now. Classic wants to become the FPL champion with himself as his captain.
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 24 2013 17:19 GMT
#483
On December 25 2013 01:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2013 01:43 Ammanas wrote:
You can't be mediocre and be top20 SC2 progamer in the world...


1. i said he has mediocre micro, his macro is better than that.
2. i would argue flash isn't top 20 in the world right now.

And how can you know that since he has not been seen much since IEM New York?
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 24 2013 17:23 GMT
#484
On December 25 2013 02:19 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2013 01:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 25 2013 01:43 Ammanas wrote:
You can't be mediocre and be top20 SC2 progamer in the world...


1. i said he has mediocre micro, his macro is better than that.
2. i would argue flash isn't top 20 in the world right now.

And how can you know that since he has not been seen much since IEM New York?


Flash did not impress at IEM New York. He failed to advance from the group stages, and in TvP, he and State looked about the same level. Now I'm a huge fan of State, and it was really awesome to see State fight so well against Flash, but that series does not help Flash's reputation.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 24 2013 17:26 GMT
#485
On December 25 2013 02:19 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2013 01:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 25 2013 01:43 Ammanas wrote:
You can't be mediocre and be top20 SC2 progamer in the world...


1. i said he has mediocre micro, his macro is better than that.
2. i would argue flash isn't top 20 in the world right now.

And how can you know that since he has not been seen much since IEM New York?


Ok then 2 months ago with the addition of the recent showmatch, maybe he proves me (and other people) wrong, but i don't see him winning nearly as much as he did in the last proleague.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 24 2013 17:43 GMT
#486
On December 25 2013 02:23 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2013 02:19 TheDwf wrote:
On December 25 2013 01:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 25 2013 01:43 Ammanas wrote:
You can't be mediocre and be top20 SC2 progamer in the world...


1. i said he has mediocre micro, his macro is better than that.
2. i would argue flash isn't top 20 in the world right now.

And how can you know that since he has not been seen much since IEM New York?


Flash did not impress at IEM New York. He failed to advance from the group stages, and in TvP, he and State looked about the same level. Now I'm a huge fan of State, and it was really awesome to see State fight so well against Flash, but that series does not help Flash's reputation.

Flash also looked even against PartinG in their last RO16 match, so State = PartinG? Yes indeed, he didn't advance; one map short. But did you check Curious' ZvT? As for DRG, he's a monster too in ZvT. It's not like he failed against average Zergs.
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
December 24 2013 18:05 GMT
#487
Kinda surprising how KT only listed 3 players of each race o.O and no puzzle
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10052 Posts
December 24 2013 19:00 GMT
#488
STILL WAITING FOR FPL TL, i make most of my yearly income around this time of year
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 24 2013 19:06 GMT
#489
guys Flash is terrible outside proleague give it up pls
Epamynondas
Profile Joined September 2012
387 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 19:16:03
December 24 2013 19:15 GMT
#490
Considering last year's record, and the current state of the metagame, i don't know why would anyone discuss the skill of non-protoss players in proleague.

I don't even think any of them will show up.

Edit: Oh shit i forgot, do we have any info on maps?
duckmaster
Profile Joined August 2011
687 Posts
December 24 2013 21:07 GMT
#491
I'd be willing to bet on both Ty and Flash outclassing Maru this season, and I pretty much always root against Flash. Anyway KT > Jin Air for me, because KT toss > Wings toss and KT terran > Wings terran. Jin Air has better zergs but KT zergs were still very valuable snipers in last season.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 21:44:35
December 24 2013 21:24 GMT
#492
Look, all I'm saying is I want to see Barbie.Prime train hard and come out to snipe the hell out of someone. And then perform some kind of ceremony with the adorable fluff ball. (Bonus points if she snipes Maru.)
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5524 Posts
December 24 2013 21:46 GMT
#493
On December 25 2013 02:14 LockeTazeline wrote:
Why is everyone talking about (T)Maru and (T)Flash? Don't people realize (T)Mvp is playing in this?

Yessssssss, the master of preparation!
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 24 2013 21:51 GMT
#494
On December 25 2013 02:14 LockeTazeline wrote:
Why is everyone talking about (T)Maru and (T)Flash? Don't people realize (T)Mvp is playing in this?

It's not MVP you're gonna be looking out for, the reason no one has seen anything of (T)UngNim is because MVP has been personally training him in a hyperbolic chamber on the top of a Tibetan monastery for a year and will be unleashed upon proleague. Proleague does not know that they have released a monster.
Glorious SEA doto
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
December 24 2013 22:33 GMT
#495
So... any news on the line-ups for the first several matches?
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3703 Posts
December 24 2013 22:47 GMT
#496
On December 25 2013 02:14 LockeTazeline wrote:
Why is everyone talking about (T)Maru and (T)Flash? Don't people realize (T)Mvp is playing in this?


It's fine. They will begin talking once everyone remembers that MVP is the true king of preparation.
DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
December 24 2013 23:06 GMT
#497
On December 25 2013 02:14 LockeTazeline wrote:
Why is everyone talking about (T)Maru and (T)Flash? Don't people realize (T)Mvp is playing in this?

Reality is playing too you will be surprised how good he is
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 24 2013 23:06 GMT
#498
On December 25 2013 06:07 duckmaster wrote:
I'd be willing to bet on both Ty and Flash outclassing Maru this season, and I pretty much always root against Flash. Anyway KT > Jin Air for me, because KT toss > Wings toss and KT terran > Wings terran. Jin Air has better zergs but KT zergs were still very valuable snipers in last season.


How can you bet on TY if we haven't really seen anything from him? I mean i am a Baby fan myself, but HOW? ^^
Well i bet Maru will be the best terran this season now that Innovation doesn't play in Proleague anymore.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
December 24 2013 23:33 GMT
#499
I hope that EG and Green Wings team up so that Jaedong can play in prologue.
Don't let those anti-cheese advocates tell you what to do. Rush to meet life head on!
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
December 25 2013 00:14 GMT
#500
On December 24 2013 10:24 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 10:20 Grumbels wrote:
On December 24 2013 09:20 opterown wrote:
being condescending only makes you look like a dick, it doesn't help your argument, join date is no indicator of experience in the sports scene.

no indicator? how about maru severely outperforming flash for the last half year?

In what world is join date not an indicator of experience? Please tell me if I'm wrong, but chances are you weren't around for Flash's dominance in Brood War and therefore can't see Flash's talent in proper context.

HEY I KNOW post count is an indicator of experience, therefore me >>> you

am i doing this right

Yeah I have like 750 posts and I think I have posted maybe 3 quality comments.
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
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