• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:14
CEST 11:14
KST 18:14
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun9[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists20[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced
Tourneys
WardiTV Spring Cup GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event SEL Masters #6 - Solar vs Classic (SC: Evo) $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
Missed out on ASL tickets - what are my options? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion BW General Discussion JaeDong's ASL S21 Ro16 Post-Review
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 1 [BSL22] RO16 Group Stage - 02 - 10 May Korean KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Diablo IV
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2953 users

Hot6ix Cup - Maru v soO, Bomber vs Soulkey on D2 - Page 3

Forum Index > SC2 General
70 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
December 05 2013 06:04 GMT
#41
Soulkey > Bomber
Maru > soO
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
December 05 2013 06:17 GMT
#42
Bomber - Soulkey 1-3,Maru - soO 3-2
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 07:26:31
December 05 2013 07:25 GMT
#43
On December 05 2013 07:30 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 07:24 hansonslee wrote:
Bomber's Law still exists!

I really hope Maru takes this! We need our MarinePrince!


I wrote something about that. I'm not sure what people want Bomber's Law to mean anymore. Is it choking? Well, everyone does. Is it losing? Everyone does? Is it losing to inferior players? Most people do, and Bomber doesn't do it much more frequently than anyone else. Is it high variance in level of play? Yeah, a lot of players have that, and most of said players don't have Bomber's results.


To me, Bomber's Law is defined as a very talented player specifically Bomber can lose in a disappointing manner. Granted, there are a lot of players who will have a bad day and lose it all (like Jaedong). However, Bomber may have won two championships, but, as a Bomber fan, I know that he can do better. To me, he's very a smart guy, unlike mechanical players such as Innovation, with sharp mechanics. I don't mind if people can beat him out right (like when he lost against Scarlett on very close matches). However, we see more unforced errors from him, even when he recently accidentally moved his tanks to the locust swarm against the same person. For a person like him, I believe that he can do better and perhaps deserves better than how he presents himself. Perhaps, he's special because, for a guy who is getting older, he can pull off very impressive feats. Regardless, the fact of the matter is that Bomber tends to lose in a saddening manner, and I continue to believe, given his history, would continue to happen, regardless of how much the fans despise it.

Also, although SoulKey lost against Bomber in BlizzCon, I would bet my money on his consistency for safety reasons. But then, again, I guess that's what's cool about Bomber. Everyone has a legitimate reason to root for or against him.
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
Pursuit_
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States1330 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 07:32:35
December 05 2013 07:31 GMT
#44
On December 05 2013 16:25 hansonslee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 07:30 Zealously wrote:
On December 05 2013 07:24 hansonslee wrote:
Bomber's Law still exists!

I really hope Maru takes this! We need our MarinePrince!


I wrote something about that. I'm not sure what people want Bomber's Law to mean anymore. Is it choking? Well, everyone does. Is it losing? Everyone does? Is it losing to inferior players? Most people do, and Bomber doesn't do it much more frequently than anyone else. Is it high variance in level of play? Yeah, a lot of players have that, and most of said players don't have Bomber's results.


To me, Bomber's Law is defined as a very talented player specifically Bomber can lose in a disappointing manner. Granted, there are a lot of players who will have a bad day and lose it all (like Jaedong). However, Bomber may have won two championships, but, as a Bomber fan, I know that he can do better. To me, he's very a smart guy, unlike mechanical players such as Innovation, with sharp mechanics. I don't mind if people can beat him out right (like when he lost against Scarlett on very close matches). However, we see more unforced errors from him, even when he recently accidentally moved his tanks to the locust swarm against the same person. For a person like him, I believe that he can do better and perhaps deserves better than how he presents himself. Perhaps, he's special because, for a guy who is getting older, he can pull off very impressive feats. Regardless, the fact of the matter is that Bomber tends to lose in a saddening manner, and I continue to believe, given his history, would continue to happen, regardless of how much the fans despise it.

Also, although SoulKey lost against Bomber in BlizzCon, I would bet my money on his consistency for safety reasons. But then, again, I guess that's what's cool about Bomber. Everyone has a legitimate reason to root for or against him.


I think it's more Bomber's specific ability to look completely unstoppable in one series to the extent that people question if his opponent even had a chance and then in the very next series lose in a way that makes you feel silly for thinking he was even close to unstoppable to begin with. There are lots of players with results that vary greatly, but never with the same feel of domination followed by total submission that Bomber seems to display.
In Somnis Veritas
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
December 05 2013 07:44 GMT
#45
Sorry for doubting you, Bomber, I really wish for you to dominate.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 05 2013 07:52 GMT
#46
hmm can't help but feel Maru and Soulkey will take it. soO isn't a slouch and I think it's be 3-2 with very close games. Maybe a base race or two Soulkey got this though!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
December 05 2013 08:10 GMT
#47
Maru and whoever please.
Flash | Mvp
uThermal
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands165 Posts
December 05 2013 08:47 GMT
#48
maru vs dear finals omfg
Team Liquid
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
December 05 2013 08:56 GMT
#49
gogo Terrans!!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 05 2013 09:06 GMT
#50
Confusing xD
This just gives more questions than answers to me
Still should be great TvZ
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 09:20:03
December 05 2013 09:17 GMT
#51
On December 05 2013 16:25 hansonslee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 07:30 Zealously wrote:
On December 05 2013 07:24 hansonslee wrote:
Bomber's Law still exists!

I really hope Maru takes this! We need our MarinePrince!


I wrote something about that. I'm not sure what people want Bomber's Law to mean anymore. Is it choking? Well, everyone does. Is it losing? Everyone does? Is it losing to inferior players? Most people do, and Bomber doesn't do it much more frequently than anyone else. Is it high variance in level of play? Yeah, a lot of players have that, and most of said players don't have Bomber's results.


To me, Bomber's Law is defined as a very talented player specifically Bomber can lose in a disappointing manner. Granted, there are a lot of players who will have a bad day and lose it all (like Jaedong). However, Bomber may have won two championships, but, as a Bomber fan, I know that he can do better. To me, he's very a smart guy, unlike mechanical players such as Innovation, with sharp mechanics. I don't mind if people can beat him out right (like when he lost against Scarlett on very close matches). However, we see more unforced errors from him, even when he recently accidentally moved his tanks to the locust swarm against the same person. For a person like him, I believe that he can do better and perhaps deserves better than how he presents himself. Perhaps, he's special because, for a guy who is getting older, he can pull off very impressive feats. Regardless, the fact of the matter is that Bomber tends to lose in a saddening manner, and I continue to believe, given his history, would continue to happen, regardless of how much the fans despise it.

Also, although SoulKey lost against Bomber in BlizzCon, I would bet my money on his consistency for safety reasons. But then, again, I guess that's what's cool about Bomber. Everyone has a legitimate reason to root for or against him.

I agree. For example, at IPL5 he showed the imo highest level of play at the tourney, when he dismantled apm master DRG in a macro game. But for what? Only to drop out against Polt in losers round 10. He deserves so much, but only gets a smaller part if it due to his inconsistency.

Edit: Although I think Bomber got this match, its time to win some more stuff!
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
December 05 2013 09:39 GMT
#52
Bomber's Law is outdated, now it's down to the question if Bomber is a choker or not. One could say that Soulkey is a choker, too, taking his consistent top-but-not-winning placements.
klup
Profile Joined May 2013
France612 Posts
December 05 2013 09:42 GMT
#53
The OP is really unrealistic with his prediction. With the current state of the game it will be more a zerg rampage than anything

Soo 3- Maru 1

Soulkey 3 - Bomber 1

giving 1 point to both terrans because you know proxy rax can still win smthing.
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
December 05 2013 10:05 GMT
#54
On December 05 2013 18:39 boxerfred wrote:
Bomber's Law is outdated, now it's down to the question if Bomber is a choker or not. One could say that Soulkey is a choker, too, taking his consistent top-but-not-winning placements.


I wouldn't call Soulkey a choker (remember his first GSL win when he came back from 0-3?). The times he was beaten were arguably times when he was not at his best or when the opponent has completely dismantled his play style.
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 05 2013 10:10 GMT
#55
On December 05 2013 19:05 hansonslee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 18:39 boxerfred wrote:
Bomber's Law is outdated, now it's down to the question if Bomber is a choker or not. One could say that Soulkey is a choker, too, taking his consistent top-but-not-winning placements.


I wouldn't call Soulkey a choker (remember his first GSL win when he came back from 0-3?). The times he was beaten were arguably times when he was not at his best or when the opponent has completely dismantled his play style.

that was more a bogus choke than anything haha
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
ReMinD_
Profile Joined May 2013
Croatia846 Posts
December 05 2013 10:38 GMT
#56
Neural parasite inc
Parting: Well, even I can make better maps than these.
Telon Petrides
Profile Joined September 2013
Canada58 Posts
December 05 2013 10:44 GMT
#57
Maruuuuu! Mech! 1-0
Telon Petrides
Profile Joined September 2013
Canada58 Posts
December 05 2013 10:46 GMT
#58
Ha ha, Maru 11/11 rax whirlwind.
Telon Petrides
Profile Joined September 2013
Canada58 Posts
December 05 2013 10:49 GMT
#59
Maru 2-0!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 05 2013 10:55 GMT
#60
On December 05 2013 19:49 Telon Petrides wrote:
Maru 2-0!


try this thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=437342 ;o
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 16m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 155
herO (SOOP) 9
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 2909
Sea 1960
Jaedong 398
Aegong 261
Stork 186
actioN 165
Zeus 158
ToSsGirL 152
Sharp 87
EffOrt 67
[ Show more ]
sSak 44
910 39
Sacsri 37
Bale 31
Backho 29
soO 28
Shinee 24
Shine 23
ajuk12(nOOB) 18
Soma 9
ZergMaN 5
Terrorterran 2
Dota 2
XaKoH 457
NeuroSwarm429
canceldota36
ODPixel0
League of Legends
JimRising 472
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1752
shoxiejesuss1150
Other Games
Happy301
crisheroes216
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick726
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream79
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 15
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota232
League of Legends
• Lourlo962
• Jankos913
• TFBlade881
• Stunt451
Upcoming Events
GSL
16m
Cure vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Bunny
KCM Race Survival
46m
Big Gabe
2h 46m
Replay Cast
14h 46m
Replay Cast
23h 46m
Escore
1d
OSC
1d 3h
Replay Cast
1d 14h
Replay Cast
1d 23h
RSL Revival
2 days
Classic vs GgMaChine
Rogue vs Maru
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
BSL
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
herO vs TriGGeR
NightMare vs Solar
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL
3 days
IPSL
3 days
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Jaedong vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Snow vs Flash
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
GSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-28
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.