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SC2 Power Rank - December 2013 - Page 9

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AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
December 04 2013 00:29 GMT
#161
Agree with the list except Jaedong cannot be ranked higher than Soulkey...there is just no way...
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 04 2013 00:32 GMT
#162
On December 04 2013 09:29 AxiomBlurr wrote:
Agree with the list except Jaedong cannot be ranked higher than Soulkey...there is just no way...

Incidentally, Jaedong and Soulkey have a 5-5 map record in tournament play against one another.
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Elitios
Profile Joined February 2012
France164 Posts
December 04 2013 00:39 GMT
#163
Great read!

I don't see why people are complaining though. They argue that the quantity of wins doesn't make up for the lack of quality, but everyone knows that a power rank can't be based off such a vague and subjective feeling. (and also the competition in DH was without a doubt code S level.)

This ranking is very accurate imo.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 04 2013 00:45 GMT
#164
Power Rank!

Waxy just wants to become more popular for L'sTLCMAT
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shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
December 04 2013 00:46 GMT
#165
talk about biased, #1 was practically a no-show in the WCS finals, which is really the tournament that matters.
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
December 04 2013 00:46 GMT
#166
On December 04 2013 09:39 Elitios wrote:
Great read!

I don't see why people are complaining though. They argue that the quantity of wins doesn't make up for the lack of quality, but everyone knows that a power rank can't be based off such a vague and subjective feeling. (and also the competition in DH was without a doubt code S level.)

This ranking is very accurate imo.


At DH, the terran lineup was kinda code S (lacking Bomber, Maru, Jakji), zerg lineup was code A, protoss lineup was code B. No foreign tournament will ever be half as stacked as code S.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 04 2013 00:47 GMT
#167
On December 04 2013 09:46 painkilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 09:39 Elitios wrote:
Great read!

I don't see why people are complaining though. They argue that the quantity of wins doesn't make up for the lack of quality, but everyone knows that a power rank can't be based off such a vague and subjective feeling. (and also the competition in DH was without a doubt code S level.)

This ranking is very accurate imo.


At DH, the terran lineup was kinda code S (lacking Bomber, Maru, Jakji), zerg lineup was code A, protoss lineup was code B. No foreign tournament will ever be half as stacked as code S.

ipl5 was the closest I think
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 04 2013 00:50 GMT
#168
On December 04 2013 09:46 shadymmj wrote:
talk about biased, #1 was practically a no-show in the WCS finals, which is really the tournament that matters.

So sOs should be rank 1 even though he is in Code A, just lost the Red Bull Battlegrounds, and also placed 9-12 at DH Winter?
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-04 00:52:19
December 04 2013 00:51 GMT
#169
personally dear first, then taeja, maru, jaedong, soulkey, sos
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lystier
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
China877 Posts
December 04 2013 01:02 GMT
#170
Welcome back power rank
Startale forever.
Jmanthedragonguy
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada1202 Posts
December 04 2013 01:03 GMT
#171
Yay, i missed power rank. After this Proleague will be sure to dominate a large portion of the spotlight( which im ok with).

Also this is so sad but true "While Soulkey is a formidable player, it's hard to shake off the feeling that he's constantly the victim of someone else's date with destiny," A real spot on quote. Nonetheless, Soulkey fighting!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-04 01:10:52
December 04 2013 01:06 GMT
#172
On December 04 2013 09:47 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 09:46 painkilla wrote:
On December 04 2013 09:39 Elitios wrote:
Great read!

I don't see why people are complaining though. They argue that the quantity of wins doesn't make up for the lack of quality, but everyone knows that a power rank can't be based off such a vague and subjective feeling. (and also the competition in DH was without a doubt code S level.)

This ranking is very accurate imo.


At DH, the terran lineup was kinda code S (lacking Bomber, Maru, Jakji), zerg lineup was code A, protoss lineup was code B. No foreign tournament will ever be half as stacked as code S.

ipl5 was the closest I think

Actually IPL4 had 19/32 Code S players (at that time) in the tournament. Would've been 20 had Mvp not cancelled. IPL5 only had 15/32 of that season's code S players participating.

So basically IPL4 hardest foreign tournament confirmed. Who won that again?
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-04 01:08:49
December 04 2013 01:07 GMT
#173
lol i just love how people mock jaedong and taeja because they are not supposedly "top players" .. since they did not have tournament runs that is stacked with code s players .. thinking that a couple of tournament wins and 2nd places wont matter since its not "stacked" and a couple of high level pros along the way wont matter as if its not that hard.. and everyone still dismisses innovation who always places high in code s and is still considered by people not a "top player" since he doesnt place in anything and gets murdered horribly by Taeja all the time .. or as how people tell that sOs is better than Dear just because he won Blizzcon even though the gap skill is clear between them..


so what does people consider to be top if it is not based upon difficulty and consistency ? i just dont understand people here from TL

this is a quote
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-04 01:10:42
December 04 2013 01:09 GMT
#174
On December 04 2013 09:50 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 09:46 shadymmj wrote:
talk about biased, #1 was practically a no-show in the WCS finals, which is really the tournament that matters.

So sOs should be rank 1 even though he is in Code A, just lost the Red Bull Battlegrounds, and also placed 9-12 at DH Winter?

There should have been one in october or november tough With the WCS season finals and BLizzcon yet for some mysterious reason it aint there and the one before that Taeja just happened to climbed 4 spots. hmm.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 04 2013 01:11 GMT
#175
On December 04 2013 10:09 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 09:50 Darkhoarse wrote:
On December 04 2013 09:46 shadymmj wrote:
talk about biased, #1 was practically a no-show in the WCS finals, which is really the tournament that matters.

So sOs should be rank 1 even though he is in Code A, just lost the Red Bull Battlegrounds, and also placed 9-12 at DH Winter?

There should have been one in october or november tough With the WCS season finals and BLizzcon yet for some mysterious reason it aint there and the one before that Taeja just happened to climbed 4 spots. hmm.

What the hell is the point in doing a power rank right after a world finals? Everyone would just expect you to put the players in order of their finish in the most recent tournament.
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Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
December 04 2013 01:17 GMT
#176
On December 04 2013 10:11 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 10:09 Assirra wrote:
On December 04 2013 09:50 Darkhoarse wrote:
On December 04 2013 09:46 shadymmj wrote:
talk about biased, #1 was practically a no-show in the WCS finals, which is really the tournament that matters.

So sOs should be rank 1 even though he is in Code A, just lost the Red Bull Battlegrounds, and also placed 9-12 at DH Winter?

There should have been one in october or november tough With the WCS season finals and BLizzcon yet for some mysterious reason it aint there and the one before that Taeja just happened to climbed 4 spots. hmm.

What the hell is the point in doing a power rank right after a world finals? Everyone would just expect you to put the players in order of their finish in the most recent tournament.

You argument had been valid, if they didn't do the same after every season final (minus the third)
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 04 2013 01:20 GMT
#177
On December 04 2013 10:17 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 10:11 Darkhoarse wrote:
On December 04 2013 10:09 Assirra wrote:
On December 04 2013 09:50 Darkhoarse wrote:
On December 04 2013 09:46 shadymmj wrote:
talk about biased, #1 was practically a no-show in the WCS finals, which is really the tournament that matters.

So sOs should be rank 1 even though he is in Code A, just lost the Red Bull Battlegrounds, and also placed 9-12 at DH Winter?

There should have been one in october or november tough With the WCS season finals and BLizzcon yet for some mysterious reason it aint there and the one before that Taeja just happened to climbed 4 spots. hmm.

What the hell is the point in doing a power rank right after a world finals? Everyone would just expect you to put the players in order of their finish in the most recent tournament.

You argument had been valid, if they didn't do the same after every season final (minus the third)

Maybe they decided that was redundant and that's why they decided to not do it a third time Or maybe Waxangel was just busy or something and couldn't do the ones in November/October. Who knows?
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ThunderGod
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
New Zealand897 Posts
December 04 2013 01:28 GMT
#178
San should get a special mention!
Otherwise reasonable list. Soulkey should be > Jaedong though.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 04 2013 01:33 GMT
#179
On December 04 2013 10:06 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 09:47 opterown wrote:
On December 04 2013 09:46 painkilla wrote:
On December 04 2013 09:39 Elitios wrote:
Great read!

I don't see why people are complaining though. They argue that the quantity of wins doesn't make up for the lack of quality, but everyone knows that a power rank can't be based off such a vague and subjective feeling. (and also the competition in DH was without a doubt code S level.)

This ranking is very accurate imo.


At DH, the terran lineup was kinda code S (lacking Bomber, Maru, Jakji), zerg lineup was code A, protoss lineup was code B. No foreign tournament will ever be half as stacked as code S.

ipl5 was the closest I think

Actually IPL4 had 19/32 Code S players (at that time) in the tournament. Would've been 20 had Mvp not cancelled. IPL5 only had 15/32 of that season's code S players participating.

So basically IPL4 hardest foreign tournament confirmed. Who won that again?

ipl4 was a side event to the greatest gstl finals of all time, and you know it
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-04 02:11:31
December 04 2013 01:37 GMT
#180
On December 04 2013 10:33 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 10:06 Darkhoarse wrote:
On December 04 2013 09:47 opterown wrote:
On December 04 2013 09:46 painkilla wrote:
On December 04 2013 09:39 Elitios wrote:
Great read!

I don't see why people are complaining though. They argue that the quantity of wins doesn't make up for the lack of quality, but everyone knows that a power rank can't be based off such a vague and subjective feeling. (and also the competition in DH was without a doubt code S level.)

This ranking is very accurate imo.


At DH, the terran lineup was kinda code S (lacking Bomber, Maru, Jakji), zerg lineup was code A, protoss lineup was code B. No foreign tournament will ever be half as stacked as code S.

ipl5 was the closest I think

Actually IPL4 had 19/32 Code S players (at that time) in the tournament. Would've been 20 had Mvp not cancelled. IPL5 only had 15/32 of that season's code S players participating.

So basically IPL4 hardest foreign tournament confirmed. Who won that again?

ipl4 was a side event to the greatest gstl finals of all time, and you know it

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