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SC2 Power Rank - December 2013 - Page 11

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eurTsItniH
Profile Joined January 2012
887 Posts
December 04 2013 07:46 GMT
#201
I can't help but feel dear should be 1.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45923 Posts
December 04 2013 07:51 GMT
#202
Jaedong #1 Zerg :D
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
December 04 2013 08:03 GMT
#203
Taeja #1, called it (though I think it should be Dear)
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-04 08:04:31
December 04 2013 08:04 GMT
#204
I agree with Taeja being 1st, not sure about sOs being 3rd though. Yes he won Blizzcon but he got destroyed by Parting in Red Bull 4-1 (and RB was not really that stacked) and he had a bad run at DH Winter where he lost to every Korean except ForGG who has bad TvP. JD was in five finals this year and in all those tournaments he dominated right until the finals.

I mean, we had Inno as #1 even when Soulkey beat him in the finals, so I think JD deserves to be #3 and sOs #4.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
December 04 2013 08:06 GMT
#205
Good Power Rank
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
December 04 2013 08:18 GMT
#206
I agree to those who say Dear > Taeja.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
December 04 2013 08:19 GMT
#207
On December 04 2013 17:18 NicksonReyes wrote:
I agree to those who say Dear > Taeja.


If Dear takes the Hot6ix cup I think he'll be #1 without argument
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Rascandrius
Profile Joined June 2013
Denmark32 Posts
December 04 2013 08:30 GMT
#208
I can't tell if TL is biased or if they're just trolling with this PowerRanking....

Taeja is great, he won stuff but he hasn't won a single WCS tournament this year, Dear won back to back WCS tournaments and at the same time was a royal roader, how is he not #1 ?

Besides you can discount DH bucharest and HSC as "tournaments" since they do not have NEARLY the same representation of skill as a WCS Korea.

I give up on this PowerRanking.... I had my hopes up but this is just silly !!!
Your face tastes nice
Nightwishone
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy391 Posts
December 04 2013 08:51 GMT
#209
On December 04 2013 06:56 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 06:53 Nightwishone wrote:
TaeJa broke the all time aligulac record! How can you argue about his dominance?
By the way, as Shellshock said, watch out for San! (Though he seems to choke a bit too much)

To be fair, with the inflation in ratings naturally occuring (just look at chess) it becomes hard to compare ratings over long periods of time. Not saying that TaeJa isn't dominating, just that you can't necessarily say that 2013 TaeJa is better than 2011-someone

I agree with you, but at the present moment we're not comparing him to MVP's peak or MMA's days of glory. It would be interesting to have an accurate rating for these things though.
TaeJa IS a bonjwa. TLO - Scarlett - Snute - MaNa - HerO - TeamLiquid fighting!
Nightwishone
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy391 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-04 08:59:40
December 04 2013 08:55 GMT
#210
On December 04 2013 17:30 Rascandrius wrote:
I can't tell if TL is biased or if they're just trolling with this PowerRanking....

Taeja is great, he won stuff but he hasn't won a single WCS tournament this year, Dear won back to back WCS tournaments and at the same time was a royal roader, how is he not #1 ?

Besides you can discount DH bucharest and HSC as "tournaments" since they do not have NEARLY the same representation of skill as a WCS Korea.

I give up on this PowerRanking.... I had my hopes up but this is just silly !!!

DH Bucharest was called one of the most stacked tournaments ever at the time. I didn't think it was accurate, but still, you can't discount it as a secondary tournament. Also, WCS Korea lacked TaeJa, Jaedong, HerO, Polt, MVP, and duckdeok (he's not the best but still good enough to beat Innovation).
TaeJa IS a bonjwa. TLO - Scarlett - Snute - MaNa - HerO - TeamLiquid fighting!
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
December 04 2013 09:05 GMT
#211
Why is Jaedong no. 4 on the December power rank? It's been a terrible month for the tyrant.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-04 09:42:48
December 04 2013 09:36 GMT
#212
I don't understand how people discount TaeJa's tournaments. The Dreamhacks were stacked as hell. He beat Koreans of Code S level and players who are in this very powerrank over and over. His actual level of play and record against Koreans is pretty staggering, just look at his Elo and Aligulac ranking. He isn't farming foreigners, he's farming Koreans and it's a bit erroneous to say that he hasn't performed well in WCS as he has performed decently, though he had a couple of early exits in the last two. But he has his dual semi-final run in S2, where he barely lost both series, to make up for it.
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
December 04 2013 09:58 GMT
#213
Taeja all the way, baby. If only he was in the hotsixcup.
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
December 04 2013 10:10 GMT
#214
On December 04 2013 17:30 Rascandrius wrote:

I give up on this PowerRanking.... I had my hopes up but this is just silly !!!

I don't understand this kind of attitude- the power rank is written with lots of effort by TL writers as a means of showing how they would rank Sc2 players, not as some sort of community magazine piece meant to appease readers. In short, it's not here to please you and satisfy and fanboyism/anti-fanboyism you may have. It's just a rough approximation of who is the best at the given moment. If you don't like it you are free to write your own monthly power ranks and post them in the blogs section.

I think the #1 and #2 spots can be interchanged but otherwise good power rank.
Mirrikh
Profile Joined January 2012
Romania105 Posts
December 04 2013 10:28 GMT
#215
Teaja is good but he basically never won anything in Korea.
I would argue that winning foreign weekend events doesn't make you best player in the world.
fronkschnonk
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany622 Posts
December 04 2013 10:42 GMT
#216
I feel, the irritation about taeja being #1 in this rank comes from his weak performance at WCS.
But WCS events weren't that meaningful apart from the season and global finals. In the season finals he didn't take part due to his short "slump" in octobre. And at Blizzcon he couldn't show anything after losing to the absolute favourite in the first round: Dear (who would've won Blizzcon imo if Jaedong weren't so hysterically pushed by the audience).

Taeja clearly wasn't in best state in octobre as we could see from his emotionless win of HSC, his depressing interview and his timid statements at Dreamhack Winter. But with the win of HSC he seems to have gotten fresh motivation which lead into very much skill at Dreamhack.

To call the Dreamhack Bucharest and Winter not comparable to high korean competition can be read as an insult to following players who were beaten by Taeja:
Avenge, Symbol, sOs(x2), Life(x3), Innovation(x2), HerO and MMA

One can imagine Dear or perhaps soulkey being in first place of the power rank instead of Taeja but Taeja is clearly a contender for this honour.
But I can't understand why someone would see them so insistent in that place before Taeja.
Soulkey stomped Naniwa before getting stomped by Bomber at Blizzcon and ripped only through foreigners at WCG but he was impressive at WCS Season 3 Finals and did pretty ok at WCS Korea (for his standards).
Dear dominated WCS Korea and the Season Final but where beaten by a still struggeling Jaedong. Apart from that we didn't see anything of dear but his disappointing performance in GSTL.


Also we should blame Blizzard for the single elimination Bracket at Blizzcon
Furthermore, I consider that some kind of Code A must be reestablished.
elderamy
Profile Joined January 2013
Portugal17 Posts
December 04 2013 12:17 GMT
#217
100% Agree on power rank!
Taeja, Jaedong, HerO, Snute, TLO!
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
December 04 2013 12:28 GMT
#218
SoS should be 1st imo. Winning Blizzcon is way more important than all the other tournaments this month combined.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
December 04 2013 12:31 GMT
#219
On December 04 2013 09:50 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 09:46 shadymmj wrote:
talk about biased, #1 was practically a no-show in the WCS finals, which is really the tournament that matters.

So sOs should be rank 1 even though he is in Code A, just lost the Red Bull Battlegrounds, and also placed 9-12 at DH Winter?


Yes because Blizzcon is fucking Blizzcon.

It doesn't mean shit than Zidane could never be arsed to play away games against Osasuna or Real Sociedad because he was the best player in the world by miles in world and european finals.
Dundron2000
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1140 Posts
December 04 2013 12:36 GMT
#220
No honorable mention for Sora?
n.Die_Jaedong
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