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On December 04 2013 08:37 skipdog172 wrote:
I don't understand how anybody who actually pays a lot of attention to the scene can honestly believe Taeja is the best player in the world right now.
Until he can prove his worth in a tourney stacked with Code S players, it's silly to claim he's #1 because of his foreign tourney wins that were quite light on true competition.
i think a lot of people downplay the korean tournaments and the level of oppsition it is there.every single opponent you meet from code a to the code s finals is a potential champion who might be unknown simply because they did not have a foreign team to send them to all the foreign events.in the korean scene right now it is all about who can get to a foreign team that sends them to tournaments.just look what the foreign scene did for duckdeok,hyun,taeja,hero,jaedong.in korean sc2 tournaments they were sort of playing the b side to major stars.since they got abroad all of a sudden they started winning tournaments.if people think dremhack bucharest is harder than code a they got another thing coming...
@mcc
taeja is actually 11 in wcs rankings which are actually the rankings that send you to the global finals.and there are players who are consistent but very underrated.dear and soulkey come to mind.btw soulkey is number 1 in the wcs rankings.
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On December 04 2013 08:39 BakedButters wrote:
Those arguing for Maru to be higher, his TvZ is lacking.
the only zerg he's lost to since the previous PR is jaedong?
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On December 04 2013 08:44 mcc wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 08:37 skipdog172 wrote:
I don't understand how anybody who actually pays a lot of attention to the scene can honestly believe Taeja is the best player in the world right now.
Until he can prove his worth in a tourney stacked with Code S players, it's silly to claim he's #1 because of his foreign tourney wins that were quite light on true competition. I think many people agreeing with the rank would disagree with the statement "Taeja is the best player in the world". There is so much volatility in SC2 that any such claim is completely arbitrary and meaningless. Rank #1 in some ranking is not the same as claiming that the player is the best player in the world with all the associated semantic baggage.
OK if being #1 on the power ranks is not the same as being the 'best player in the world', then what a stupid pointless fucking list!
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In my opinion it's pretty funny how upset people can get of course of this power rank. It's just a list, based on the opinion of the writers. Of course you can critisize and disagree, but it is really needed to get that offensive??
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Thank you for making Taeja #1, It's obvious to anyone with a brain.
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TaeJa is such a goddamn badass.
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On December 04 2013 08:55 Dodgin wrote:
Thank you for making Taeja #1, It's obvious to anyone with a brain.
how do you have 33000 posts and are still an arbiter?
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On December 04 2013 08:58 perfidiusrex wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 08:55 Dodgin wrote:
Thank you for making Taeja #1, It's obvious to anyone with a brain. how do you have 33000 posts and are still an arbiter?
Switched race probably. Everybody switches to protoss eventually.
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On December 04 2013 08:58 perfidiusrex wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 08:55 Dodgin wrote:
Thank you for making Taeja #1, It's obvious to anyone with a brain. how do you have 33000 posts and are still an arbiter?
it's also based on how long you've been registered for.
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TL tactically waiting until there is literally no argument against Taeja being number 1 before releasing the power rank.
Well played.
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On December 04 2013 08:45 perfidiusrex wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 08:37 skipdog172 wrote:
I don't understand how anybody who actually pays a lot of attention to the scene can honestly believe Taeja is the best player in the world right now.
Until he can prove his worth in a tourney stacked with Code S players, it's silly to claim he's #1 because of his foreign tourney wins that were quite light on true competition. i think a lot of people downplay the korean tournaments and the level of oppsition it is there.every single opponent you meet from code a to the code s finals is a potential champion who might be unknown simply because they did not have a foreign team to send them to all the foreign events.in the korean scene right now it is all about who can get to a foreign team that sends them to tournaments.just look what the foreign scene did for duckdeok,hyun,taeja,hero,jaedong.in korean sc2 tournaments they were sort of playing the b side to major stars.since they got abroad all of a sudden they started winning tournaments.if people think dremhack bucharest is harder than code a they got another thing coming... @mcc taeja is actually 11 in wcs rankings which are actually the rankings that send you to the global finals.and there are players who are consistent but very underrated.dear and soulkey come to mind.btw soulkey is number 1 in the wcs rankings.
I know, but he is no.1 in other rankings that do not limit themselves to small subset of tournaments. Plus the WCS point system is nonsensical as good ranking of someones ability, just look at free points you could get in many parts of the WCS system and disproportionate valuing of first places. Of course TLPD and Aligulac have their issues, but are much better tools for that purpose.
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On December 04 2013 09:04 Darkhoarse wrote:
TL tactically waiting until there is literally no argument against Taeja being number 1 before releasing the power rank.
Well played.
same as how they added all the iccup/esv tournmanets to TLPD and made them count for Elo when they added taeja to the team, haha
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On December 04 2013 09:05 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 09:04 Darkhoarse wrote:
TL tactically waiting until there is literally no argument against Taeja being number 1 before releasing the power rank.
Well played. same as how they added all the iccup/esv tournmanets to TLPD and made them count for Elo when they added taeja to the team, haha
esports illuminati strikes again 
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On December 04 2013 06:19 Shellshock wrote:
Boo Maru > Life
#rekt
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On December 04 2013 08:50 skipdog172 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 08:44 mcc wrote:On December 04 2013 08:37 skipdog172 wrote:
I don't understand how anybody who actually pays a lot of attention to the scene can honestly believe Taeja is the best player in the world right now.
Until he can prove his worth in a tourney stacked with Code S players, it's silly to claim he's #1 because of his foreign tourney wins that were quite light on true competition. I think many people agreeing with the rank would disagree with the statement "Taeja is the best player in the world". There is so much volatility in SC2 that any such claim is completely arbitrary and meaningless. Rank #1 in some ranking is not the same as claiming that the player is the best player in the world with all the associated semantic baggage. OK if being #1 on the power ranks is not the same as being the 'best player in the world', then what a stupid pointless fucking list!
As nearly all lists based on personal opinions and nobody forces you to read it. Its pointlessness is your subjective opinion, some people see point to it, be it entertainment or attempt to measure results (which is not the same as being best player).
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On December 04 2013 09:05 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 09:04 Darkhoarse wrote:
TL tactically waiting until there is literally no argument against Taeja being number 1 before releasing the power rank.
Well played. same as how they added all the iccup/esv tournmanets to TLPD and made them count for Elo when they added taeja to the team, haha
In all fairness I bitched my ass off to get them in there. Didn't they put it in before Liquid?
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it was like literally the same day or something like that. they were in there before, just never counted to Elo iirc
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On December 04 2013 09:08 mcc wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 08:50 skipdog172 wrote:On December 04 2013 08:44 mcc wrote:On December 04 2013 08:37 skipdog172 wrote:
I don't understand how anybody who actually pays a lot of attention to the scene can honestly believe Taeja is the best player in the world right now.
Until he can prove his worth in a tourney stacked with Code S players, it's silly to claim he's #1 because of his foreign tourney wins that were quite light on true competition. I think many people agreeing with the rank would disagree with the statement "Taeja is the best player in the world". There is so much volatility in SC2 that any such claim is completely arbitrary and meaningless. Rank #1 in some ranking is not the same as claiming that the player is the best player in the world with all the associated semantic baggage. OK if being #1 on the power ranks is not the same as being the 'best player in the world', then what a stupid pointless fucking list! As nearly all lists based on personal opinions and nobody forces you to read it. Its pointlessness is your subjective opinion, some people see point to it, be it entertainment or attempt to measure results (which is not the same as being best player).
Technically, when you read the words on this screen, their meaning is not directly communicated from anyone, and is determined by your own perspective. Just putting the letters and spaces together to give rise to meaning is an act that you yourself perform each time you read. You presume that your understanding of how language works is accurate, based on your previous experience. Subjectively you read, subjectively you respond, subjectively you think. Technically, I find your "matter-of-fact" opinion that opinions are irrelevant and all that matters are technicalities rather nonsensical.
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taejaaa nice.. Liquid hero too please !
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On December 04 2013 09:17 opterown wrote:
it was like literally the same day or something like that. they were in there before, just never counted to Elo iirc
Ah ok, could not remember it's been so long.
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