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SC2 Power Rank - December 2013 - Page 8

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perfidiusrex
Profile Joined December 2013
Belgium78 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-03 23:50:49
December 03 2013 23:45 GMT
#141
On December 04 2013 08:37 skipdog172 wrote:
I don't understand how anybody who actually pays a lot of attention to the scene can honestly believe Taeja is the best player in the world right now.

Until he can prove his worth in a tourney stacked with Code S players, it's silly to claim he's #1 because of his foreign tourney wins that were quite light on true competition.


i think a lot of people downplay the korean tournaments and the level of oppsition it is there.every single opponent you meet from code a to the code s finals is a potential champion who might be unknown simply because they did not have a foreign team to send them to all the foreign events.in the korean scene right now it is all about who can get to a foreign team that sends them to tournaments.just look what the foreign scene did for duckdeok,hyun,taeja,hero,jaedong.in korean sc2 tournaments they were sort of playing the b side to major stars.since they got abroad all of a sudden they started winning tournaments.if people think dremhack bucharest is harder than code a they got another thing coming...

@mcc

taeja is actually 11 in wcs rankings which are actually the rankings that send you to the global finals.and there are players who are consistent but very underrated.dear and soulkey come to mind.btw soulkey is number 1 in the wcs rankings.
Jaedong fan
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 03 2013 23:47 GMT
#142
On December 04 2013 08:39 BakedButters wrote:
Those arguing for Maru to be higher, his TvZ is lacking.

the only zerg he's lost to since the previous PR is jaedong?
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
skipdog172
Profile Joined June 2010
United States331 Posts
December 03 2013 23:50 GMT
#143
On December 04 2013 08:44 mcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 08:37 skipdog172 wrote:
I don't understand how anybody who actually pays a lot of attention to the scene can honestly believe Taeja is the best player in the world right now.

Until he can prove his worth in a tourney stacked with Code S players, it's silly to claim he's #1 because of his foreign tourney wins that were quite light on true competition.

I think many people agreeing with the rank would disagree with the statement "Taeja is the best player in the world". There is so much volatility in SC2 that any such claim is completely arbitrary and meaningless. Rank #1 in some ranking is not the same as claiming that the player is the best player in the world with all the associated semantic baggage.


OK if being #1 on the power ranks is not the same as being the 'best player in the world', then what a stupid pointless fucking list!
Scarx
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany49 Posts
December 03 2013 23:53 GMT
#144
In my opinion it's pretty funny how upset people can get of course of this power rank. It's just a list, based on the opinion of the writers. Of course you can critisize and disagree, but it is really needed to get that offensive??
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 03 2013 23:55 GMT
#145
Thank you for making Taeja #1, It's obvious to anyone with a brain.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
December 03 2013 23:56 GMT
#146
TaeJa is such a goddamn badass.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
perfidiusrex
Profile Joined December 2013
Belgium78 Posts
December 03 2013 23:58 GMT
#147
On December 04 2013 08:55 Dodgin wrote:
Thank you for making Taeja #1, It's obvious to anyone with a brain.


how do you have 33000 posts and are still an arbiter?
Jaedong fan
painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
December 03 2013 23:59 GMT
#148
On December 04 2013 08:58 perfidiusrex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 08:55 Dodgin wrote:
Thank you for making Taeja #1, It's obvious to anyone with a brain.


how do you have 33000 posts and are still an arbiter?


Switched race probably. Everybody switches to protoss eventually.
Supernova | TY | Polt | Innovation | forGG | Lucifron | Happy
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 04 2013 00:03 GMT
#149
On December 04 2013 08:58 perfidiusrex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 08:55 Dodgin wrote:
Thank you for making Taeja #1, It's obvious to anyone with a brain.


how do you have 33000 posts and are still an arbiter?

it's also based on how long you've been registered for.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 04 2013 00:04 GMT
#150
TL tactically waiting until there is literally no argument against Taeja being number 1 before releasing the power rank.

Well played.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
December 04 2013 00:05 GMT
#151
On December 04 2013 08:45 perfidiusrex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 08:37 skipdog172 wrote:
I don't understand how anybody who actually pays a lot of attention to the scene can honestly believe Taeja is the best player in the world right now.

Until he can prove his worth in a tourney stacked with Code S players, it's silly to claim he's #1 because of his foreign tourney wins that were quite light on true competition.


i think a lot of people downplay the korean tournaments and the level of oppsition it is there.every single opponent you meet from code a to the code s finals is a potential champion who might be unknown simply because they did not have a foreign team to send them to all the foreign events.in the korean scene right now it is all about who can get to a foreign team that sends them to tournaments.just look what the foreign scene did for duckdeok,hyun,taeja,hero,jaedong.in korean sc2 tournaments they were sort of playing the b side to major stars.since they got abroad all of a sudden they started winning tournaments.if people think dremhack bucharest is harder than code a they got another thing coming...

@mcc

taeja is actually 11 in wcs rankings which are actually the rankings that send you to the global finals.and there are players who are consistent but very underrated.dear and soulkey come to mind.btw soulkey is number 1 in the wcs rankings.

I know, but he is no.1 in other rankings that do not limit themselves to small subset of tournaments. Plus the WCS point system is nonsensical as good ranking of someones ability, just look at free points you could get in many parts of the WCS system and disproportionate valuing of first places. Of course TLPD and Aligulac have their issues, but are much better tools for that purpose.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 04 2013 00:05 GMT
#152
On December 04 2013 09:04 Darkhoarse wrote:
TL tactically waiting until there is literally no argument against Taeja being number 1 before releasing the power rank.

Well played.

same as how they added all the iccup/esv tournmanets to TLPD and made them count for Elo when they added taeja to the team, haha
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 04 2013 00:07 GMT
#153
On December 04 2013 09:05 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 09:04 Darkhoarse wrote:
TL tactically waiting until there is literally no argument against Taeja being number 1 before releasing the power rank.

Well played.

same as how they added all the iccup/esv tournmanets to TLPD and made them count for Elo when they added taeja to the team, haha

esports illuminati strikes again
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 04 2013 00:08 GMT
#154
On December 04 2013 06:19 Shellshock wrote:
Boo Maru > Life

#rekt
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
December 04 2013 00:08 GMT
#155
On December 04 2013 08:50 skipdog172 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 08:44 mcc wrote:
On December 04 2013 08:37 skipdog172 wrote:
I don't understand how anybody who actually pays a lot of attention to the scene can honestly believe Taeja is the best player in the world right now.

Until he can prove his worth in a tourney stacked with Code S players, it's silly to claim he's #1 because of his foreign tourney wins that were quite light on true competition.

I think many people agreeing with the rank would disagree with the statement "Taeja is the best player in the world". There is so much volatility in SC2 that any such claim is completely arbitrary and meaningless. Rank #1 in some ranking is not the same as claiming that the player is the best player in the world with all the associated semantic baggage.


OK if being #1 on the power ranks is not the same as being the 'best player in the world', then what a stupid pointless fucking list!

As nearly all lists based on personal opinions and nobody forces you to read it. Its pointlessness is your subjective opinion, some people see point to it, be it entertainment or attempt to measure results (which is not the same as being best player).
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
December 04 2013 00:14 GMT
#156
On December 04 2013 09:05 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 09:04 Darkhoarse wrote:
TL tactically waiting until there is literally no argument against Taeja being number 1 before releasing the power rank.

Well played.

same as how they added all the iccup/esv tournmanets to TLPD and made them count for Elo when they added taeja to the team, haha


In all fairness I bitched my ass off to get them in there. Didn't they put it in before Liquid?
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 04 2013 00:17 GMT
#157
it was like literally the same day or something like that. they were in there before, just never counted to Elo iirc
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
KnowNothing
Profile Joined December 2010
69 Posts
December 04 2013 00:18 GMT
#158
On December 04 2013 09:08 mcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 08:50 skipdog172 wrote:
On December 04 2013 08:44 mcc wrote:
On December 04 2013 08:37 skipdog172 wrote:
I don't understand how anybody who actually pays a lot of attention to the scene can honestly believe Taeja is the best player in the world right now.

Until he can prove his worth in a tourney stacked with Code S players, it's silly to claim he's #1 because of his foreign tourney wins that were quite light on true competition.

I think many people agreeing with the rank would disagree with the statement "Taeja is the best player in the world". There is so much volatility in SC2 that any such claim is completely arbitrary and meaningless. Rank #1 in some ranking is not the same as claiming that the player is the best player in the world with all the associated semantic baggage.


OK if being #1 on the power ranks is not the same as being the 'best player in the world', then what a stupid pointless fucking list!

As nearly all lists based on personal opinions and nobody forces you to read it. Its pointlessness is your subjective opinion, some people see point to it, be it entertainment or attempt to measure results (which is not the same as being best player).


Technically, when you read the words on this screen, their meaning is not directly communicated from anyone, and is determined by your own perspective. Just putting the letters and spaces together to give rise to meaning is an act that you yourself perform each time you read. You presume that your understanding of how language works is accurate, based on your previous experience. Subjectively you read, subjectively you respond, subjectively you think. Technically, I find your "matter-of-fact" opinion that opinions are irrelevant and all that matters are technicalities rather nonsensical.
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
December 04 2013 00:19 GMT
#159
taejaaa nice.. Liquid hero too please !
AKMU / IU
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
December 04 2013 00:20 GMT
#160
On December 04 2013 09:17 opterown wrote:
it was like literally the same day or something like that. they were in there before, just never counted to Elo iirc


Ah ok, could not remember it's been so long.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
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