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Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3686 Posts
December 06 2013 00:35 GMT
#301
Even though I paid for next year (I really only enjoy watching koreans play starcraft and gom is the sole wcs partner for next year afterall and I find 50 bucks to be a decent price if you imply that vods will get better and twitch will stop lagging), I also emailed them about this as I have been paying for gom for two and a half years now. If OGN would have been the wcs partner for 2014 I would have stopped being a gom customer for sure. Twitch is just so much worse. I actually liked downloading and using the gom player and I always went with their own web player over twitch when I still had the option, but to me the worst part is twitch's terrible vod system. I can't watch hotsix cup live tomorrow so I'll have to use them for the first time for gom and I already miss the old system (which was by far the best vod system I've ever used).

Please gom atleast leave vods on your own site.
dislike
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany54 Posts
December 06 2013 10:40 GMT
#302
On December 05 2013 06:54 goofyballer wrote:
The spoiler-filled VOD section is obviously terrible and this will completely fail if they don't fix it. I e-mailed gom support asking them to do so, I encourage all of you to do the same.

How cool is Twitch about refunds if they don't get their shit together? There's no way I'm going to suffer through an entire year of watching 1-2 games before automatically knowing who wins a series.


Twitch ist cool with refunds. Got mine after experiencing terrible lag, spoilers and a lot of rage ( ;-) )

No more GSL for me if they continue to use Twitch.
dislike_this!
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3686 Posts
December 06 2013 10:51 GMT
#303
So just in case anybody wondered here is what is probably the automated standard responds most of us will get (I know so because they used the wrong first name in the email I got and then fixed it in a second email lol):

+ Show Spoiler +
Dear "insert your name here",

Although we value your feedback, we are going to proceed with broadcasting on TwitchTV for now.

As for the issue with the TwitchTV VODs, we recommend that you send a email to the TwitchTV Support Team regarding this matter so that we can, one day, bring you a better VOD management system.

We apologize for this inconvenience and thank you for your patience!

If you have any other questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us again!

Thank you and kind regards,

GOMTV.net Support Team


So we hear a "we'll work with twitch to improve vods", I get a "contact twitch over those". Btw the "issues" I mentioned are simply the spoiler related ones posted a lot in this thread. Oh well at least they responded quickly.
alexiii
Profile Joined February 2012
Belgium41 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-06 15:08:05
December 06 2013 15:07 GMT
#304
What pisses me off the most about the VOD's is that it would be so ridiculously easy to fix. I hope this ignoring the community thing will seriously backlash against twitch in the future. It also drives me nuts I'm going to pay for a service that sucks, to a company which I dislike, because there's no other (legal) way to get the VOD's.
anessie
Profile Joined August 2011
180 Posts
December 06 2013 15:16 GMT
#305
Mine didn't seem an automated response.

+ Show Spoiler +
Dear User,

As you may know, the TwitchTV VOD management system is extremely different from the way the VODs were uploaded on the www.GOMTV.net website.

We are still in talks with TwitchTV on how we can improve this service for our viewers.

We would like to thank you for your feedback and these points are things we will take seriously into consideration.
Teim
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia373 Posts
December 06 2013 15:38 GMT
#306
Been a subscriber since after the open seasons. That would be 3 years now?

Anyway, I don't think I can justify the $50 unless they can bring the VOD system close to their previous level.

Being able to easily find the game I want in a spoiler free manner, possibly a week or two after the game had even been played, was perfect for me. But now... Ugh.

Hopefully we get a proper response from them before the end of the year.
A duck is a duck!
Sawofhackness
Profile Joined May 2011
Afghanistan183 Posts
December 07 2013 01:56 GMT
#307
Very sad news, GOM has been excellent and a nightly staple for me in the past years, I paid for everything and was well worth it

Just want to point out a few things -

1. I remember huge complaints about the quality of GOMTV and endless whinging about their vods and live games not being up to scratch, easily forgotten now, but worth remembering regarding the transition to Twitch

2. SC2 is on the decline, as much as we all hate it, companies that make a living off it have to adjust. I have noticed the decreasing numbers of views on GSTL and code A/S games. It was a subscription pay service yes, but their out-goings are massive - all the staff and commentator pay, prize money, studios, insurance, lighting, camera, tech equipment, hosting - they can't keep current model and go into a declining game, hence have to adapt

3. Adapting will involve certain language. GOM can't say "oh we're fucked, we have to drop SC2", they, as a company HAVE TO put positive spin on it always. No, it's not the end of the world. I tried Twitch there, yes the games are disjointed and the spoiler aspect is high, but it works.

If GOM would have doubled their prices to cover the declining audience then I would have gladly paid, however I understand that most gamers on a budget probably couldnt cover, so we just have to make the best of it. Enjoy what we have now, the great competitions, the big tourneys, the prize money - stop fucking whinging and just enjoy it, it most certainly isn't going to last forever, and one day it will end (when Starcraft 3 comes out hopefully)

NKexquisite
Profile Joined January 2009
United States911 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-08 07:47:13
December 08 2013 07:45 GMT
#308
1.) The spoiler system Gom had on their site was fantastic and it was very easy to move from game to game, set to set within a group. This is something that will be a disaster on Twitch. Not to mention Twitch has no way of organizing any Vods. They are just past broadcasts in one giant cesspool of Vods.

2.) How will past season VODs work? It looks like they are moving all past GSL seasons over to a new YouTube channel. Does that mean, as soon as the season ends, the VODs from the previous seasons will be free to watch? I'm guessing a subscription will not link between Twitch and YouTube. Seeing how the VODs are a disaster on Twitch, there is no way they can possibly store multiple GSLs all in the past broadcast section without it becoming a complete cluterfuck..

3.) No mobile VODs...

4.) I guess some people say Twitch lags, too...

It's great to hear Gom and Twitch are "in talks" about improving Twitch's crap to make this all possible, but is Twitch really going to bend over backwards just for Gom? I really hope this doesn't up being as big of a disaster as I think it will be considering the way Gom had progressed over the years, they had come up with a fairly elegant solution on their own website that included 720p VODs over the course of the past year.


God help us all.


Edit: That all being said, I'm still down for a subscription. Don't get me wrong, I'm In!
Whattttt Upppppppp Im Nesteaaaaaa!!
Venomsflame
Profile Joined February 2011
United States613 Posts
December 08 2013 09:08 GMT
#309
My God I forgot how fucking dreadful twitch chat is. Only saw it while alt tabbing in and out of full screen and STILL feel like I've lost brain cells.

Gom streaming I miss you
NKexquisite
Profile Joined January 2009
United States911 Posts
December 08 2013 21:59 GMT
#310
Well, I tried to purchase a subscription last night but Twitch says I have a "hold" on my credit card and I need to contact my bank. What a joke, it clearly doesn't have a "hold" on it since I made several purchases with it today...
Whattttt Upppppppp Im Nesteaaaaaa!!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25996 Posts
December 09 2013 01:24 GMT
#311
Aside from comparisons with GOM, why in the name of Zeus himself has Twitch not developed SOME form of VoD archiving system that is spoiler free/better organised?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Bodzilla
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia472 Posts
December 09 2013 02:18 GMT
#312
On December 09 2013 06:59 NKexquisite wrote:
Well, I tried to purchase a subscription last night but Twitch says I have a "hold" on my credit card and I need to contact my bank. What a joke, it clearly doesn't have a "hold" on it since I made several purchases with it today...

your dumb and dont understand internet banking.

Because you've made purchase's your bank is holding it to make sure it's actually you buying things, instead of someone with your credit card details.
when life gives you lemons, make banelings
NHL Fever
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada104 Posts
December 09 2013 20:28 GMT
#313
Sign....I guess the economics make this necessary. But man is twitch awful. Here's to hoping that a cheaper price is worth the much cheaper, laggy, unreliable, spoiling, and generally poor experience that comes with twitch.
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
December 15 2013 19:39 GMT
#314
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Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
December 15 2013 19:51 GMT
#315
On December 16 2013 04:39 monkybone wrote:
Also, when will the GSL be starting up again?

Soon™

+ Show Spoiler +
It's not announced yet.
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
December 15 2013 19:53 GMT
#316
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anessie
Profile Joined August 2011
180 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-15 19:58:20
December 15 2013 19:57 GMT
#317
Doubt anything will change unless Twitch itself introduces another type of "Past Broadcasts" page with filters/search options and/or some anti-spoiler function.

GomExp won't do anything since twitch is not their own website.

I did notice GomExp did an effort by uploading some matches in one vod instead of seperate sets. If they would leave the break/cermony/interview in at the end of those longer pieces the outcome isn't directly spoiled by vod length.
Mantisdolphin
Profile Joined May 2011
United States29 Posts
December 23 2013 15:08 GMT
#318
Gosh I'm a huge fan of the GSTL. This past season, even though there were only five teams in the league, was still epic, especially with Innovation on the Axiom/Acer team. And I love the GOM English-speaking casters: Khaldor and Wolf, and Tastosis, of course. I could listen to those guys just shoot the breeze and talk about the e-sports scene generally.

I've followed Wolf over to the Kespa Proleague 2014 pre-season on Twitch. For $5.00, no sweat. The VODs are available on Youtube, but good luck watching them in order there. Could Kespa and GSL/GSTL ever combine forces completely?

I'm very sad that GOM-TV is morphing to GOMExp. I get why, but I do scratch my head about Tanks. My 13 year old is a meh SC2 fan, and he thinks Tanks is not nearly as fun to watch as SC2.
"All that is not pattern is noise--the only possible source of new information." - Gregory Bateson
Comadevil
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany214 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-23 15:54:43
December 23 2013 15:54 GMT
#319
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-30 00:12:56
December 30 2013 00:09 GMT
#320
How can I watch 2011 vods like Arena of Legends 1? (GOM has removed all VODs from gomtv.net)
Only 2012 is covered on the GOM eXP Youtube channel and very few special events actually have VODs on this.

Edit: Ok so apparently:
GOM eXP Official1 week ago

Hold your horses, it's coming!
We are currently uploading from 2012 => 2010
We predict that everything will be up by the end of Jan 2014


So I can't even rewatch MarineKing's old glorious moments :'(
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