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jeri
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany335 Posts
November 17 2013 22:46 GMT
#61
what headsets are the casters using during the cup? any infos on that someone?
"The voices are back. Excellent." Dexter Morgan
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
November 17 2013 23:05 GMT
#62
I'm so sad about Happy losing to HyuN...he should have really taken game 4 and the entire series.
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
GnoM
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway145 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-17 23:48:43
November 17 2013 23:48 GMT
#63
omg, I love homestory cup! So awsome!

Great preformance by TaeJa!
Kamakiri
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden312 Posts
November 18 2013 01:06 GMT
#64
On November 18 2013 05:53 ladysman09 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 04:36 Incubus1993 wrote:
On November 17 2013 18:13 ladysman09 wrote:
On November 17 2013 13:09 Incubus1993 wrote:
The work ethic of foreigners must be absolutely awful, or Koreans just work that much harder. There hasn't been a single 1st place finish for a foreigner in 2013. There was a fair amount in 2011 and 2012, what happened?


I really don't think it's any sort of hard work that makes a player better than another. If a player is good then he's good, if he's bad then he's bad. Simple as that. Koreans are just better than foreigners at sc2. That's all there is to it. There are those exceptions of course. Look at stephano. He only practiced a total of like one hour a day and he still destroyed koreans. Stephano is just food, while his foreigner friends just aren't as good. It has nothing at all to do with practice, just look at stephano.


Please elaborate. I'm pretty sure practice and work ethic is almost entirely what makes Koreans have a significant step up over foreigners. Koreans aren't just born "better".

Sure Stephano is a unique exception, sometimes natural given talent and game sense can get rid of need to practice, that doesn't support your statement at all though because then you have to weigh in the fact that the overwhelming majority of Koreans pros are overall better than foreigners. I find it ridiculous to believe (no offence) that all of them are just "better".


Explain why Asians are naturally smarter than other people. My high school had a total of like 7 Asian kids and they took the top 7 rankings. I never saw them study at all. Any time I was out I would see them and they would even skip class. Asian people in general are just better than us at everything. Look at China, Japan, Korea. All are naturally smart, which is why they succeed so much. The same applies to Starcraft. Asians are just smarter and more talented than us.


So much "positive" racism, it must suck for a normal asian to live up to stereotypes like these.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33513 Posts
November 18 2013 01:16 GMT
#65
shit, that didn't go so well
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Avs
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (North)857 Posts
November 18 2013 02:15 GMT
#66
On November 18 2013 10:16 Waxangel wrote:
shit, that didn't go so well


Shittt, that really didn't go so well.
TaishiCi
Profile Joined September 2013
Korea (South)211 Posts
November 18 2013 02:23 GMT
#67
On November 18 2013 10:06 Kamakiri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 05:53 ladysman09 wrote:
On November 18 2013 04:36 Incubus1993 wrote:
On November 17 2013 18:13 ladysman09 wrote:
On November 17 2013 13:09 Incubus1993 wrote:
The work ethic of foreigners must be absolutely awful, or Koreans just work that much harder. There hasn't been a single 1st place finish for a foreigner in 2013. There was a fair amount in 2011 and 2012, what happened?


I really don't think it's any sort of hard work that makes a player better than another. If a player is good then he's good, if he's bad then he's bad. Simple as that. Koreans are just better than foreigners at sc2. That's all there is to it. There are those exceptions of course. Look at stephano. He only practiced a total of like one hour a day and he still destroyed koreans. Stephano is just food, while his foreigner friends just aren't as good. It has nothing at all to do with practice, just look at stephano.


Please elaborate. I'm pretty sure practice and work ethic is almost entirely what makes Koreans have a significant step up over foreigners. Koreans aren't just born "better".

Sure Stephano is a unique exception, sometimes natural given talent and game sense can get rid of need to practice, that doesn't support your statement at all though because then you have to weigh in the fact that the overwhelming majority of Koreans pros are overall better than foreigners. I find it ridiculous to believe (no offence) that all of them are just "better".


Explain why Asians are naturally smarter than other people. My high school had a total of like 7 Asian kids and they took the top 7 rankings. I never saw them study at all. Any time I was out I would see them and they would even skip class. Asian people in general are just better than us at everything. Look at China, Japan, Korea. All are naturally smart, which is why they succeed so much. The same applies to Starcraft. Asians are just smarter and more talented than us.


So much "positive" racism, it must suck for a normal asian to live up to stereotypes like these.


It is too stressful, but walking the road is the only way we can survive.
We must change because the world won't.
It is pretty much the same for everyone around the world, we are harder-working/smarter because we must.
If we aren't we will starve or at the least never have a family.

White people just don't know how good they get it. lol
Dae Han Min Gook Man Sae!!!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-18 02:35:41
November 18 2013 02:35 GMT
#68
On November 18 2013 05:53 ladysman09 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 04:36 Incubus1993 wrote:
On November 17 2013 18:13 ladysman09 wrote:
On November 17 2013 13:09 Incubus1993 wrote:
The work ethic of foreigners must be absolutely awful, or Koreans just work that much harder. There hasn't been a single 1st place finish for a foreigner in 2013. There was a fair amount in 2011 and 2012, what happened?


I really don't think it's any sort of hard work that makes a player better than another. If a player is good then he's good, if he's bad then he's bad. Simple as that. Koreans are just better than foreigners at sc2. That's all there is to it. There are those exceptions of course. Look at stephano. He only practiced a total of like one hour a day and he still destroyed koreans. Stephano is just food, while his foreigner friends just aren't as good. It has nothing at all to do with practice, just look at stephano.


Please elaborate. I'm pretty sure practice and work ethic is almost entirely what makes Koreans have a significant step up over foreigners. Koreans aren't just born "better".

Sure Stephano is a unique exception, sometimes natural given talent and game sense can get rid of need to practice, that doesn't support your statement at all though because then you have to weigh in the fact that the overwhelming majority of Koreans pros are overall better than foreigners. I find it ridiculous to believe (no offence) that all of them are just "better".


Explain why Asians are naturally smarter than other people. My high school had a total of like 7 Asian kids and they took the top 7 rankings. I never saw them study at all. Any time I was out I would see them and they would even skip class. Asian people in general are just better than us at everything. Look at China, Japan, Korea. All are naturally smart, which is why they succeed so much. The same applies to Starcraft. Asians are just smarter and more talented than us.


Here's a better one. Explain why Koreans own not just EU and NA, but other Asian countries as well? Nobody is in the same tier as Korea, the rest of the world is about 2-3 tiers below them on average. Code A and B Koreans can win tournaments with the most stacked of foreign competition.

Furthermore, even if you exclude Korea many would probably argue that Sweden is the best foreign country at sc2 and EU by far the best region. This is even with China being on the rise in 2013. If Asians are innately better at the game, why is this? Why are most of the top foreigners usually from EU?

Because it has little to nothing to do with nature and more to do with culture (environment).
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nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3751 Posts
November 18 2013 12:57 GMT
#69
On November 18 2013 11:35 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 05:53 ladysman09 wrote:
On November 18 2013 04:36 Incubus1993 wrote:
On November 17 2013 18:13 ladysman09 wrote:
On November 17 2013 13:09 Incubus1993 wrote:
The work ethic of foreigners must be absolutely awful, or Koreans just work that much harder. There hasn't been a single 1st place finish for a foreigner in 2013. There was a fair amount in 2011 and 2012, what happened?


I really don't think it's any sort of hard work that makes a player better than another. If a player is good then he's good, if he's bad then he's bad. Simple as that. Koreans are just better than foreigners at sc2. That's all there is to it. There are those exceptions of course. Look at stephano. He only practiced a total of like one hour a day and he still destroyed koreans. Stephano is just food, while his foreigner friends just aren't as good. It has nothing at all to do with practice, just look at stephano.


Please elaborate. I'm pretty sure practice and work ethic is almost entirely what makes Koreans have a significant step up over foreigners. Koreans aren't just born "better".

Sure Stephano is a unique exception, sometimes natural given talent and game sense can get rid of need to practice, that doesn't support your statement at all though because then you have to weigh in the fact that the overwhelming majority of Koreans pros are overall better than foreigners. I find it ridiculous to believe (no offence) that all of them are just "better".


Explain why Asians are naturally smarter than other people. My high school had a total of like 7 Asian kids and they took the top 7 rankings. I never saw them study at all. Any time I was out I would see them and they would even skip class. Asian people in general are just better than us at everything. Look at China, Japan, Korea. All are naturally smart, which is why they succeed so much. The same applies to Starcraft. Asians are just smarter and more talented than us.


Here's a better one. Explain why Koreans own not just EU and NA, but other Asian countries as well? Nobody is in the same tier as Korea, the rest of the world is about 2-3 tiers below them on average. Code A and B Koreans can win tournaments with the most stacked of foreign competition.

Furthermore, even if you exclude Korea many would probably argue that Sweden is the best foreign country at sc2 and EU by far the best region. This is even with China being on the rise in 2013. If Asians are innately better at the game, why is this? Why are most of the top foreigners usually from EU?

Because it has little to nothing to do with nature and more to do with culture (environment).

Well the only logical conclusion here is that Koreans are smart-ass superhumans and we should crawl at their feet.
Oh, wait...
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-18 17:27:46
November 18 2013 17:27 GMT
#70
On November 18 2013 11:35 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 05:53 ladysman09 wrote:
On November 18 2013 04:36 Incubus1993 wrote:
On November 17 2013 18:13 ladysman09 wrote:
On November 17 2013 13:09 Incubus1993 wrote:
The work ethic of foreigners must be absolutely awful, or Koreans just work that much harder. There hasn't been a single 1st place finish for a foreigner in 2013. There was a fair amount in 2011 and 2012, what happened?


I really don't think it's any sort of hard work that makes a player better than another. If a player is good then he's good, if he's bad then he's bad. Simple as that. Koreans are just better than foreigners at sc2. That's all there is to it. There are those exceptions of course. Look at stephano. He only practiced a total of like one hour a day and he still destroyed koreans. Stephano is just food, while his foreigner friends just aren't as good. It has nothing at all to do with practice, just look at stephano.


Please elaborate. I'm pretty sure practice and work ethic is almost entirely what makes Koreans have a significant step up over foreigners. Koreans aren't just born "better".

Sure Stephano is a unique exception, sometimes natural given talent and game sense can get rid of need to practice, that doesn't support your statement at all though because then you have to weigh in the fact that the overwhelming majority of Koreans pros are overall better than foreigners. I find it ridiculous to believe (no offence) that all of them are just "better".


Explain why Asians are naturally smarter than other people. My high school had a total of like 7 Asian kids and they took the top 7 rankings. I never saw them study at all. Any time I was out I would see them and they would even skip class. Asian people in general are just better than us at everything. Look at China, Japan, Korea. All are naturally smart, which is why they succeed so much. The same applies to Starcraft. Asians are just smarter and more talented than us.


Here's a better one. Explain why Koreans own not just EU and NA, but other Asian countries as well? Nobody is in the same tier as Korea, the rest of the world is about 2-3 tiers below them on average. Code A and B Koreans can win tournaments with the most stacked of foreign competition.

Furthermore, even if you exclude Korea many would probably argue that Sweden is the best foreign country at sc2 and EU by far the best region. This is even with China being on the rise in 2013. If Asians are innately better at the game, why is this? Why are most of the top foreigners usually from EU?

Because it has little to nothing to do with nature and more to do with culture (environment).


*Hopefully* he's being sarcastic.

It has everything to do with culture and environment, and nothing to do with Asian genetics. The idiot with the baseless story about 7 Asians skipping class and getting the best grades is either delusional or trolling.

Korea is dominating because the culture readily supports full-time SC2 gaming. End of story.
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
November 20 2013 20:45 GMT
#71
On November 19 2013 02:27 Crownlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 11:35 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On November 18 2013 05:53 ladysman09 wrote:
On November 18 2013 04:36 Incubus1993 wrote:
On November 17 2013 18:13 ladysman09 wrote:
On November 17 2013 13:09 Incubus1993 wrote:
The work ethic of foreigners must be absolutely awful, or Koreans just work that much harder. There hasn't been a single 1st place finish for a foreigner in 2013. There was a fair amount in 2011 and 2012, what happened?


I really don't think it's any sort of hard work that makes a player better than another. If a player is good then he's good, if he's bad then he's bad. Simple as that. Koreans are just better than foreigners at sc2. That's all there is to it. There are those exceptions of course. Look at stephano. He only practiced a total of like one hour a day and he still destroyed koreans. Stephano is just food, while his foreigner friends just aren't as good. It has nothing at all to do with practice, just look at stephano.


Please elaborate. I'm pretty sure practice and work ethic is almost entirely what makes Koreans have a significant step up over foreigners. Koreans aren't just born "better".

Sure Stephano is a unique exception, sometimes natural given talent and game sense can get rid of need to practice, that doesn't support your statement at all though because then you have to weigh in the fact that the overwhelming majority of Koreans pros are overall better than foreigners. I find it ridiculous to believe (no offence) that all of them are just "better".


Explain why Asians are naturally smarter than other people. My high school had a total of like 7 Asian kids and they took the top 7 rankings. I never saw them study at all. Any time I was out I would see them and they would even skip class. Asian people in general are just better than us at everything. Look at China, Japan, Korea. All are naturally smart, which is why they succeed so much. The same applies to Starcraft. Asians are just smarter and more talented than us.


Here's a better one. Explain why Koreans own not just EU and NA, but other Asian countries as well? Nobody is in the same tier as Korea, the rest of the world is about 2-3 tiers below them on average. Code A and B Koreans can win tournaments with the most stacked of foreign competition.

Furthermore, even if you exclude Korea many would probably argue that Sweden is the best foreign country at sc2 and EU by far the best region. This is even with China being on the rise in 2013. If Asians are innately better at the game, why is this? Why are most of the top foreigners usually from EU?

Because it has little to nothing to do with nature and more to do with culture (environment).


*Hopefully* he's being sarcastic.

It has everything to do with culture and environment, and nothing to do with Asian genetics. The idiot with the baseless story about 7 Asians skipping class and getting the best grades is either delusional or trolling.

Korea is dominating because the culture readily supports full-time SC2 gaming. End of story.


He's not. He's been trolling ever since the WCS global finals LR thread, maybe even before. I'm surprised so many people took the bait on this thread.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
November 20 2013 20:52 GMT
#72
It's utterly ridiculous to think that Asians are naturally smarter. However, in many Asian cultures, there's tendency toward working/practicing/studying hard, and that's generally why the Asians-are-naturally-smart stereotype exists. Even though it's a positive stereotype, it's still offensive because it undermines the hard work that a lot of Asians put into whatever they're trying to accomplish, when they're just written off as "naturally gifted".
Fliparoni
Profile Joined February 2012
205 Posts
November 20 2013 21:18 GMT
#73
On November 18 2013 05:53 ladysman09 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 04:36 Incubus1993 wrote:
On November 17 2013 18:13 ladysman09 wrote:
On November 17 2013 13:09 Incubus1993 wrote:
The work ethic of foreigners must be absolutely awful, or Koreans just work that much harder. There hasn't been a single 1st place finish for a foreigner in 2013. There was a fair amount in 2011 and 2012, what happened?


I really don't think it's any sort of hard work that makes a player better than another. If a player is good then he's good, if he's bad then he's bad. Simple as that. Koreans are just better than foreigners at sc2. That's all there is to it. There are those exceptions of course. Look at stephano. He only practiced a total of like one hour a day and he still destroyed koreans. Stephano is just food, while his foreigner friends just aren't as good. It has nothing at all to do with practice, just look at stephano.


Please elaborate. I'm pretty sure practice and work ethic is almost entirely what makes Koreans have a significant step up over foreigners. Koreans aren't just born "better".

Sure Stephano is a unique exception, sometimes natural given talent and game sense can get rid of need to practice, that doesn't support your statement at all though because then you have to weigh in the fact that the overwhelming majority of Koreans pros are overall better than foreigners. I find it ridiculous to believe (no offence) that all of them are just "better".


Explain why Asians are naturally smarter than other people. My high school had a total of like 7 Asian kids and they took the top 7 rankings. I never saw them study at all. Any time I was out I would see them and they would even skip class. Asian people in general are just better than us at everything. Look at China, Japan, Korea. All are naturally smart, which is why they succeed so much. The same applies to Starcraft. Asians are just smarter and more talented than us.


As an Asian I really resent comments like this. Also you could be more specific with your positive racism. Instead of saying Asians you could say northeast Asians because Asia is a lot bigger than the 3 countries that you mentioned
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
November 20 2013 21:23 GMT
#74
On November 18 2013 05:53 ladysman09 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 04:36 Incubus1993 wrote:
On November 17 2013 18:13 ladysman09 wrote:
On November 17 2013 13:09 Incubus1993 wrote:
The work ethic of foreigners must be absolutely awful, or Koreans just work that much harder. There hasn't been a single 1st place finish for a foreigner in 2013. There was a fair amount in 2011 and 2012, what happened?


I really don't think it's any sort of hard work that makes a player better than another. If a player is good then he's good, if he's bad then he's bad. Simple as that. Koreans are just better than foreigners at sc2. That's all there is to it. There are those exceptions of course. Look at stephano. He only practiced a total of like one hour a day and he still destroyed koreans. Stephano is just food, while his foreigner friends just aren't as good. It has nothing at all to do with practice, just look at stephano.


Please elaborate. I'm pretty sure practice and work ethic is almost entirely what makes Koreans have a significant step up over foreigners. Koreans aren't just born "better".

Sure Stephano is a unique exception, sometimes natural given talent and game sense can get rid of need to practice, that doesn't support your statement at all though because then you have to weigh in the fact that the overwhelming majority of Koreans pros are overall better than foreigners. I find it ridiculous to believe (no offence) that all of them are just "better".


Explain why Asians are naturally smarter than other people. My high school had a total of like 7 Asian kids and they took the top 7 rankings. I never saw them study at all. Any time I was out I would see them and they would even skip class. Asian people in general are just better than us at everything. Look at China, Japan, Korea. All are naturally smart, which is why they succeed so much. The same applies to Starcraft. Asians are just smarter and more talented than us.

you use a sample size of 7 people and then apply it to a whole race, wow.
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