On November 17 2013 13:09 Incubus1993 wrote: The work ethic of foreigners must be absolutely awful, or Koreans just work that much harder. There hasn't been a single 1st place finish for a foreigner in 2013. There was a fair amount in 2011 and 2012, what happened?
KeSPA arrived and WCS came into existence - but you are WRONG!
On November 17 2013 13:09 Incubus1993 wrote: The work ethic of foreigners must be absolutely awful, or Koreans just work that much harder. There hasn't been a single 1st place finish for a foreigner in 2013. There was a fair amount in 2011 and 2012, what happened?
A foreigner won 2013 MLG Summer Invite - but that was because there were no Koreans there All joking aside, it's probably because HotS was made to be more micro intensive and the APM of high level Koreans just blow away foreigners.
On November 17 2013 13:48 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: - Naniwa, Scarlett, and a couple others are really good but I don't think any of them have the same spark and creativity that Stephano did in his prime (which was mostly 2012).
Let me preface this by saying I am in no way a Naniwa fan. Frankly I can't stand the guy.
With that said, I think Naniwa's perserverence makes up for the lack of "spark" that Stephano had.
He came fricken ONE GAME away from winning Dreamhack Stockholm, made it into the top four of the last MLG (I think that was the last one?) and second at IEM New York defying my wildest expectation. I'd say in conclusion that part of the reason we haven't seen a foriegner victory so far this year (there's still a few possibilities such as Dreamhack Winter and Red Bull Battlegrounds) is a bit due to luck. In 2011 HuK combined skill with some pretty amazing opportunities, in 2012 I'll admit that Stephano didn't need much as far as luck went, but this year? Nothing seemed to go in favor of the foriegners.
Also I'm still bummed that Stephano lost to MVP at WCS EU Season 1. That coulda changed foriegner outlook for the entire year as far as I'm concerned.
I couldn't agree with you more. The more I watch Naniwa, the more I'm impressed. I thought Naniwa was done for when he kept getting knocked out in tourneys in 2012 ,but somehow he keeps climbing back;fighting off the top koreans on his way. Sure, Huk, Idra and Stephano had their moments, but Naniwa's consistent results puts him above all foreigners imo.
On November 17 2013 13:09 Incubus1993 wrote: The work ethic of foreigners must be absolutely awful, or Koreans just work that much harder. There hasn't been a single 1st place finish for a foreigner in 2013. There was a fair amount in 2011 and 2012, what happened?
I really don't think it's any sort of hard work that makes a player better than another. If a player is good then he's good, if he's bad then he's bad. Simple as that. Koreans are just better than foreigners at sc2. That's all there is to it. There are those exceptions of course. Look at stephano. He only practiced a total of like one hour a day and he still destroyed koreans. Stephano is just food, while his foreigner friends just aren't as good. It has nothing at all to do with practice, just look at stephano.
On November 17 2013 13:09 Incubus1993 wrote: The work ethic of foreigners must be absolutely awful, or Koreans just work that much harder. There hasn't been a single 1st place finish for a foreigner in 2013. There was a fair amount in 2011 and 2012, what happened?
you can't go for an imbalance composition in 2mu as Z.
On November 17 2013 13:09 Incubus1993 wrote: The work ethic of foreigners must be absolutely awful, or Koreans just work that much harder. There hasn't been a single 1st place finish for a foreigner in 2013. There was a fair amount in 2011 and 2012, what happened?
I really don't think it's any sort of hard work that makes a player better than another. If a player is good then he's good, if he's bad then he's bad. Simple as that. Koreans are just better than foreigners at sc2. That's all there is to it. There are those exceptions of course. Look at stephano. He only practiced a total of like one hour a day and he still destroyed koreans. Stephano is just food, while his foreigner friends just aren't as good. It has nothing at all to do with practice, just look at stephano.
On November 17 2013 13:09 Incubus1993 wrote: The work ethic of foreigners must be absolutely awful, or Koreans just work that much harder. There hasn't been a single 1st place finish for a foreigner in 2013. There was a fair amount in 2011 and 2012, what happened?
you can't go for an imbalance composition in 2mu as Z.
Didn't amount to much of anything as far as first places go for foreigners. Post-BL/Infestor 2012 only Nerchio, Stephano, and Snute won events over Korean competition in Premiere/Major events from what I see. Stephano is the best foreigner of all-time in sc2, and the other two remained top-tier foreigners into HotS.
On November 17 2013 13:09 Incubus1993 wrote: The work ethic of foreigners must be absolutely awful, or Koreans just work that much harder. There hasn't been a single 1st place finish for a foreigner in 2013. There was a fair amount in 2011 and 2012, what happened?
I really don't think it's any sort of hard work that makes a player better than another. If a player is good then he's good, if he's bad then he's bad. Simple as that. Koreans are just better than foreigners at sc2. That's all there is to it. There are those exceptions of course. Look at stephano. He only practiced a total of like one hour a day and he still destroyed koreans. Stephano is just food, while his foreigner friends just aren't as good. It has nothing at all to do with practice, just look at stephano.
Yeah there is no way practicing actually makes the players better.
At least there isn't any mirror match-ups yet. Gonna be some sick games coming up, been up all night from overuse of coffee yesterday but hopefully the rush keeps me going for a few more hours. Once it starts I'll probably end up falling asleep and being pissed about it later on. lol
BabyKnight sounded so confident on stream last night, he might actually have the fortitude to withstand the onslaught of the Koreans and go to the finals.
EPT
All joking aside, it's probably because HotS was made to be more micro intensive and the APM of high level Koreans just blow away foreigners.
