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Axeltoss and Axslav part ways with MLG - Page 5

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VArsovskiSC
Profile Joined July 2010
Macedonia563 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 15:33:31
November 13 2013 15:32 GMT
#81
MLG sucks (in a way), though I knew about this news quite some time already, so not quite as surprised TBH..

However - thought that the televised events were enough to keep it going, but I guess wasn't enough.. That being said - no live event in MLG - no viewership..

Yeah - sad for Axslav and Axeltoss, hope they get it on in the future to come
Another world, another place, another universe, won the race.. :) ;) :P
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
November 13 2013 15:34 GMT
#82
On November 13 2013 22:03 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 21:59 jdsowa wrote:
The community actually killed MLG/SC2 by insisting upon the involvement of Korean players. Curiosity propped it up for a tournament or two, but in the end the move had the effect of crushing the NA scene and a good portion of domestic interest. Gotta tip your hat to everyone for their short-sightedness.


Yeah god forbid we see the highest level games and best players possible. You realize the Koreans were kinda big in the SC1 scene, right? It's only natural we care about them in SC2.


People are still repeating this stuff? I dunno if you realize where the scene is at currently but... everything you said completely sidesteps the issues the poster you quoted brought up.

I hope Axslav can find a new position. He has very good insight to the game and it would be a shame to see him stay idle for too long.
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tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
November 13 2013 15:43 GMT
#83
Why aren't I a billionaire? I'd make my own version of sc2 circuit
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 13 2013 15:52 GMT
#84
This looks promising:

robert simpson ‏@robpsimpson 3m
hey @Axeltoss @iSAxslav check your Skype! If anyone's in contact with them please ask them to reach out to me. :D
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 13 2013 15:52 GMT
#85
I'm a bit bitter to see MLG doing their best " Look how good we are" eyes to the DotA 2 scene during that.
I guess it's the logical business move to do, but I still feel salty over it.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 13 2013 16:06 GMT
#86
On November 14 2013 00:52 Noocta wrote:
I'm a bit bitter to see MLG doing their best " Look how good we are" eyes to the DotA 2 scene during that.
I guess it's the logical business move to do, but I still feel salty over it.

It's a two way street, because the Dota 2 community is very excited bout MLG becoming involved. MLG has hit some bumps and the community has gotten grumpy, but over all they are way less pissy about minor details(like stage size, or that call of duty exists). At the end of the day, if the community want MLG back, they can get them to cover SC2 again, just like dota, who has been pushing for MLG forever.
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Spectralx
Profile Joined November 2010
United States198 Posts
November 13 2013 16:06 GMT
#87
Gl guyz, )))) I know you read these!
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ArtistenSc2
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden53 Posts
November 13 2013 16:10 GMT
#88
AXSLAV ! Stay in SC2 plzz!
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dangthatsright
Profile Joined July 2011
1160 Posts
November 13 2013 16:22 GMT
#89
darn
On November 14 2013 00:52 Musicus wrote:
This looks promising:

Show nested quote +
robert simpson ‏@robpsimpson 3m
hey @Axeltoss @iSAxslav check your Skype! If anyone's in contact with them please ask them to reach out to me. :D

not darn
umade
Profile Joined September 2011
Sweden172 Posts
November 13 2013 16:24 GMT
#90
That's sad to see. Oh well, I've moved on from SC2 to Dota2 so I don't mind the fact that MLG picked up Dota2
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SoniC_eu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1008 Posts
November 13 2013 16:26 GMT
#91
Sad to see MLG go down this path, and hope the best for Axslav, I really enjoyed his analytical style and his passion for the game. ALWAYS a jot to watch and hear A caster who knows what he is talking about! GL to you both <3
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 16:34:24
November 13 2013 16:34 GMT
#92
If i were teamliquid.net and axelbrothers, i'd make a hard swing to dota. sc2 isnt such a good spectator sport as very little small adjustments in gameplay can define an outcome. In dota this is less the case as each character is only 10% influence in the game. Also dota has got x^65489755231 teampoosibilities and sc2 has alot less (and therefore alot of the same games). Basically, the mainstrain will never consumer sc2 as they will consume dota2 or whatever game.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 13 2013 16:43 GMT
#93
On November 14 2013 01:34 govie wrote:
If i were teamliquid.net and axelbrothers, i'd make a hard swing to dota. sc2 isnt such a good spectator sport as very little small adjustments in gameplay can define an outcome. In dota this is less the case as each character is only 10% influence in the game. Also dota has got x^65489755231 teampoosibilities and sc2 has alot less (and therefore alot of the same games). Basically, the mainstrain will never consumer sc2 as they will consume dota2 or whatever game.


You know I like to watch and play Basketball, but in Germany the majority only likes football. Should I also switch?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 16:44:10
November 13 2013 16:43 GMT
#94
On November 14 2013 01:06 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 00:52 Noocta wrote:
I'm a bit bitter to see MLG doing their best " Look how good we are" eyes to the DotA 2 scene during that.
I guess it's the logical business move to do, but I still feel salty over it.

It's a two way street, because the Dota 2 community is very excited bout MLG becoming involved. MLG has hit some bumps and the community has gotten grumpy, but over all they are way less pissy about minor details(like stage size, or that call of duty exists). At the end of the day, if the community want MLG back, they can get them to cover SC2 again, just like dota, who has been pushing for MLG forever.
Well people also need to consider that different companies have different approaches to different games.

DH Dota is nothing like DH SC2 for example (until very recently), and if it was then I don't think people would be so full of praise for DH and spite for MLG in the SC2 community.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 13 2013 16:44 GMT
#95
On November 14 2013 00:52 Musicus wrote:
This looks promising:

Show nested quote +
robert simpson ‏@robpsimpson 3m
hey @Axeltoss @iSAxslav check your Skype! If anyone's in contact with them please ask them to reach out to me. :D

Rob Simpson works for Redbull am I right?
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 13 2013 16:45 GMT
#96
On November 14 2013 01:44 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 00:52 Musicus wrote:
This looks promising:

robert simpson ‏@robpsimpson 3m
hey @Axeltoss @iSAxslav check your Skype! If anyone's in contact with them please ask them to reach out to me. :D

Rob Simpson works for Redbull am I right?


Yes. He is in the Redbull esports devision and responsible for Redbull Battleground etc. afaik.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 13 2013 16:50 GMT
#97
On November 14 2013 01:43 teapoted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 01:06 Plansix wrote:
On November 14 2013 00:52 Noocta wrote:
I'm a bit bitter to see MLG doing their best " Look how good we are" eyes to the DotA 2 scene during that.
I guess it's the logical business move to do, but I still feel salty over it.

It's a two way street, because the Dota 2 community is very excited bout MLG becoming involved. MLG has hit some bumps and the community has gotten grumpy, but over all they are way less pissy about minor details(like stage size, or that call of duty exists). At the end of the day, if the community want MLG back, they can get them to cover SC2 again, just like dota, who has been pushing for MLG forever.
Well people also need to consider that different companies have different approaches to different games.

DH Dota is nothing like DH SC2 for example (until very recently), and if it was then I don't think people would be so full of praise for DH and spite for MLG in the SC2 community.

That is totally valid too and the SC2 community loves DH without question, even if they settle matches through a coin flip. And maybe Redbull can really get a larger NA even going, with online qualifiers and everything. Personally I like that everyone is focusing on the game that works for them.
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
November 13 2013 17:34 GMT
#98
I hope Axslav stays around. One of the best. Enjoyed his teaching series at MLG.
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fenrysk
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States364 Posts
November 13 2013 17:41 GMT
#99
i guess this means i can hope to see Axslav maybe do another run as a competitor (slim chances as that may be).
best of wishes for the double Ax
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 17:47:12
November 13 2013 17:47 GMT
#100
but MLG has been around since I got involved in watching the pro scene
On November 13 2013 23:56 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 23:44 Plansix wrote:
On November 13 2013 23:37 lichter wrote:
If sc2 is a dead game are we necro(ludicru)philiacs?

I'm really hoping it will become a cult following or niche market. One of those catchy things I can be all hipster about.


I'm already super niche and hipster about other crap so I guess sc2 becoming like that would suit me

me too
I can just imagine some of the conversations I'd have too :\
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