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[A]NaNiwa - Road to Blizzcon #15 - Page 14

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pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
November 08 2013 15:46 GMT
#261
On November 09 2013 00:32 Jer99 wrote:
Can't wait to see Naniwa get knocked out by Soulkey :D


Cannot see Soulkey get knocked out by Naniwa :D
zEEzz
Profile Joined October 2012
93 Posts
November 08 2013 15:46 GMT
#262
"You did improve Naniwa, but you are still no match for me."
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 15:58:49
November 08 2013 15:49 GMT
#263
Like many of you, I am a little disappointed. Not in the quality of the writing as some of you so quickly criticize, but in the amount of people who decided that this article is not up to par.

I hope you all can take a step back and think about what the TL writers have done this week. An unprecedented number of articles and previews have gone out to hype one of the greatest tournaments of all time. I don't mean to go all Tasteless, "esports history" on you but it is what it is.

But the amount of people who have the audacity to jump on Zealously for this article is astounding. Now I've read some complaints which range from the article simply not having a title to the fact that it is not entirely positive. And my answer to that is: SO WHAT?

The article may not be positive, but it is honest. I happen to know that Zealously actually likes Naniwa, but he does what a writer should do and looks at the player objectively. Feel free to try to point out factual inaccuracies in the article, because I have not found any.

Maybe people expected a 6 page dissertation on why Naniwa is the greatest thing since sliced bread, just because he is the only foreigner. But isn't that the same bias that you all so self-righteously condemn because the article is "negative"? The writers are there to objectively evaluate the player and create hype for the tournament, and I think this article did just that.

Anyway that about wraps it up, sorry for ranting. But seriously, take some time to appreciate the work the writers did this week hyping ALL of the players, and cut them a little slack. Just because you did not think this article adequately hyped Naniwa does not mean you can sit behind your computer bashing the writing without making a contribution of your own. In conclusion, "This is the tournament where all the odds are stacked against NaNiwa, where no reasonable person would believe in him to win the championship. Two years we saw the best of NaNiwa, even as he fell just short of being crowned champion of the world. This time around, he can make that final step."

Get ready for Blizzcon.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
November 08 2013 15:51 GMT
#264
Obviously any article about anything related to Naniwa is going to incite some controversy, even if it means mouthraping a volunteer writer who did a neat job writing an article.

For what it's worth, I enjoyed it quite a bit.
seoul_kiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States545 Posts
November 08 2013 15:54 GMT
#265
at least he got to the ro16
oGs.MC: Repair IMBAAAAAAAAAAa
TaishiCi
Profile Joined September 2013
Korea (South)211 Posts
November 08 2013 15:59 GMT
#266
On November 09 2013 00:51 SixStrings wrote:
Obviously any article about anything related to Naniwa is going to incite some controversy, even if it means mouthraping a volunteer writer who did a neat job writing an article.

For what it's worth, I enjoyed it quite a bit.

Delusional Fanboys can't stand it when there isn't excessive foreign hope in any article.
Delusional Fanboys also love to take no accountability and don't have a thread of class.
Delusional Fanboys also never contribute and are stuck in wood league.

TL volunteers are so awesome they keep eSports alive.
TL volunteers are VOLUNTEERS, that work hard to produce content.
TL volunteers, thank you.
Dae Han Min Gook Man Sae!!!
caznitch
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada645 Posts
November 08 2013 16:04 GMT
#267
Thanks again for the great article. I'm blown away by the effort put into this tournament by TL. I think many opinions may change on the WCS system if the finals is anywhere near as good as the hype.
why?
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
November 08 2013 16:09 GMT
#268
All those write ups have been truly awesome. Cant wait for tonight !!
twitter@RickyMarou
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18111 Posts
November 08 2013 16:14 GMT
#269
On November 09 2013 00:49 Darkhoarse wrote:
Like many of you, I am a little disappointed. Not in the quality of the writing as some of you so quickly criticize, but in the amount of people who decided that this article is not up to par.

I hope you all can take a step back and think about what the TL writers have done this week. An unprecedented number of articles and previews have gone out to hype one of the greatest tournaments of all time. I don't mean to go all Tasteless, "esports history" on you but it is what it is.

But the amount of people who have the audacity to jump on Zealously for this article is astounding. Now I've read some complaints which range from the article simply not having a title to the fact that it is not entirely positive. And my answer to that is: SO WHAT?

The article may not be positive, but it is honest. I happen to know that Zealously actually likes Naniwa, but he does what a writer should do and looks at the player objectively. Feel free to try to point out factual inaccuracies in the article, because I have not found any.

Maybe people expected a 6 page dissertation on why Naniwa is the greatest thing since sliced bread, just because he is the only foreigner. But isn't that the same bias that you all so self-righteously condemn because the article is "negative"? The writers are there to objectively evaluate the player and create hype for the tournament, and I think this article did just that.

Anyway that about wraps it up, sorry for ranting. But seriously, take some time to appreciate the work the writers did this week hyping ALL of the players, and cut them a little slack. Just because you did not think this article adequately hyped Naniwa does not mean you can sit behind your computer bashing the writing without making a contribution of your own. In conclusion, "This is the tournament where all the odds are stacked against NaNiwa, where no reasonable person would believe in him to win the championship. Two years we saw the best of NaNiwa, even as he fell just short of being crowned champion of the world. This time around, he can make that final step."

Get ready for Blizzcon.

This post is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Incubus1993
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada140 Posts
November 08 2013 16:33 GMT
#270
You can knock him all you want for being a whiner and a jerk, but you can't deny his skill nor how his personality is stimulating for the scene. He's one of the few players that isn't scared to show his true colours and chops and he's confident/cocky about his play. Which is something people absolutely crave to see, for better or for worse.

No matter how much I like him and dislike Soulkey, I still don't think he'll win. I expect a 3-1 maybe a 3-2 for Soulkey. The games will be good though that's for sure. Especially after the PvZ he's shown against Hyun, Life and Revival, all very good Zergs.

Go NaNiwa!

"I like to keep an open mind, but not so open my brains fall out."
myhybris
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden16 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 16:36:35
November 08 2013 16:34 GMT
#271
HAHA Got to say that this article is so perfect for Nani, Even the article it self is dividing and is making ppl argue :D
(the only thing i have to say about it is that it could have had more epic forcefields in it, thats all.)

Ohwell as a fellow swed im biased as hell but if he didnt make it i would probably not even watch the finals, His presence has set fire to this tournament.

Gogo Nani!!

Edit: Title - Naniwa - The Tiebreaker
xLikeMikex
Profile Joined April 2012
United States12 Posts
November 08 2013 16:37 GMT
#272
Great write up, I've always been a fan of Naniwa! Best of luck to him at Blizzcon
Mvp I MMA I Polt I Bomber I INnoVation I TaeJa
Staklet
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden44 Posts
November 08 2013 16:38 GMT
#273
Gooo Naniwa!

I'm, and probably all of e-sport-Sweden is soooo proud of you!

To us you will always be the champ!
No Surprises.
syroz
Profile Joined September 2012
France249 Posts
November 08 2013 16:40 GMT
#274
A pale imitation of Stephano the Great (may God rest his soul)...

Anyway, gogo Naniwa!
Karakaxe
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden585 Posts
November 08 2013 16:53 GMT
#275
why no title?

gogogogo nani
Sword of Omens, give me sight beyond sight.
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
November 08 2013 16:59 GMT
#276
so to settle this once and for all

Poll: This article was:

Good (27)
 
52%

Bad (20)
 
38%

No idea/no comment (5)
 
10%

52 total votes

Your vote: This article was:

(Vote): Good
(Vote): Bad
(Vote): No idea/no comment



I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
November 08 2013 17:08 GMT
#277
This polarizing write-up is the Naniwa of 'The Road to Blizzcon' series. Thus I think Zealousy wrote it perfectly. :D
Don't you rage when you lose too? -FruitDealer
SamuelGreen
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden292 Posts
November 08 2013 17:09 GMT
#278
This was obviously a good article.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
November 08 2013 17:26 GMT
#279
Wow this thread went weird...

As for the article. Its well written but I do think it somehow feels different to the others though I'm not quite sure why. Don't feel quite as hyped as I did after reading the others.


Regardless of that, shame on those saying its "bad". Its a perfectly well written article.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
DotPdf
Profile Joined January 2011
United States37 Posts
November 08 2013 17:28 GMT
#280
Naniwa fighting!
"A real fan does not care about results alone. A real fan has the ability to support his idol even when they are in trouble. I am this kind of fan." - Congressmen Won
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