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East Gorteau22261 Posts
Blizzcon: The Numbers
The WCS Grand Finals at Blizzcon have gathered the top 16 earners in the WCS system for the ultimate tournament. Below are some of the numbers that will help you appreciate just how skilled these players are, and what their roads to this point looked like. And a lot of other stuff.
The winrates
Overall winrates
 INnoVation: 67%
 sOs: 66%
- Polt: 65%
- TaeJa: 65%
- Dear: 63%
- Mvp: 63%
 Jaedong: 62%
- NaNiwa: 62%
- MMA: 62%
- Bomber: 62%
- Soulkey: 61%
- MC: 61%
- HerO: 61%
- aLive: 58%
- Maru: 57%
- duckdeok: 56%
- Jaedong sports the highest win rate in an individual match-up, 74% in ZvZ.
- Jaedong also has the lowest win rate in an individual match-up with his 53% ZvP
- MC has played the greatest amount of televised games of all attending players, with 1414 recorded competitive games.
- Dear has the least amount of televised games, at 207. He has never lost a Bo5+.
- On average, Dear lifts a trophy every 69 games.
- Mvp has a near-80% (78.95%) win rate in Bo5+ series. He has lost 8 (out of 38) in total, 5 of them to attending players.
- Soulkey is the only player at Blizzcon that hasn't lost a series to a foreigner, ever.
+ Show Spoiler [Aligulac prediction] + Win Top 2 Top 4 Top 8 Top 16
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INnoVation 18.93% 15.24% 18.81% 30.24% 16.77%
Polt 13.48% 7.46% 14.01% 17.36% 47.68%
MMA 10.97% 7.53% 17.31% 20.47% 43.71%
TaeJa 9.51% 10.21% 17.57% 16.17% 46.54%
Dear 7.08% 8.95% 17.52% 12.99% 53.46%
sOs 6.93% 6.58% 13.00% 34.07% 39.42%
Mvp 6.35% 4.97% 10.41% 25.96% 52.32%
NaNiwa 5.37% 5.01% 11.90% 21.75% 55.97%
Bomber 4.65% 4.54% 11.14% 23.38% 56.29%
Maru 4.57% 6.59% 12.24% 21.96% 54.65%
HerO 3.86% 4.26% 8.69% 22.60% 60.58%
Soulkey 2.89% 5.16% 13.53% 34.40% 44.03%
MC 2.03% 4.58% 9.01% 39.03% 45.35%
Jaedong 1.99% 4.28% 12.62% 43.07% 38.04%
aLive 0.70% 2.46% 7.11% 27.77% 61.96%
duckdeok 0.70% 2.18% 5.12% 8.77% 83.23%
The money
- Jang "MC" Min Chul $406,788
- Jeong "Mvp" Jong Hyeon $380,020
- Choi "Polt" Seong Hun $245,670
- Mun "MMA" Seong-Won $223,175
- Song "HerO" Hyun Deok $206,524
- Yun "Taeja" Young Seo $136,823
- Johan "Naniwa" Lucchesi $120,593
- Choi "Bomber" Ji Sung $114,315
- Han "aLive" Lee Seok $104,540
- Lee "INnoVation" Shin Hyung $87,665
- Lee "Jaedong" Jae Dong $67,910
- Kim "Soulkey" Min Chul $67,635
- Baek "Dear" Dong Jun $61,000
- Cho "Maru" Seong Ju $50,749
- Kim "duckdeok" Kyung Deok $42,890
- Kim "sOs" Yoo Jin $35,260
- 98.4% of Dear's prize money comes from WCS events
- Only 9.4% of MC's prize money comes from WCS events
- Innovation has earned the most money from WCS events with $66.000 from WCS Korea and Season Finals alone.
- Innovation is also the highest earner of 2013 overall, with $83.200 in prize money this year.
- With $55.500, Mvp has earned less money this year than any other year of his SC2 career. He is the 12th highest earner of 2013.
- Out of the attending players, aLive has earned the least money this year at $28.840
- Unless Innovation finishes 2nd, the Blizzcon champion is guaranteed to have earned the most money this year.
The championships
- Polt and Taeja have won 3 tournaments each this year. Taeja won Homestory Cup VI, Asus ROG and Dreamhack Bucharest. Polt won MLG Spring and WCS America Season 2 and 3.
- Out of the 16 attending players, aLive, Jaedong, sOs and Naniwa are the ones to not have won a tournament in 2013. Of those four, only Jaedong and sOs are without major championships in Starcraft II, but they have taken second place in one Season Finals each.
- Soulkey has not participated in any offline tournaments (that award WCS points) besides WCS this year
- Naniwa has earned the least amount of WCS points from official WCS tournaments, at 2000.
- Soulkey has the most WCS points from official WCS tournaments, at 6250.
- Polt beat only Koreans to win WCS America Season 3
- Jaedong has played in 4 finals this year, more than any other player.
- It has been 11 days since Dear last won a championship (WCS Season 3 Finals)
- It has been 1173 days since Jaedong last won a championship (WCG Korea 2010)
- Mvp has won the most championships out of any attending player, at 9 (11 counting Gainward Tournament and Arena of Legends)
- Dear has played in the fewest tournaments of any attending player, at 3.
The games
- Mvp pulled off two insane comebacks in WCS this year. One against Tefel and one against Innovation. Both games were declared lost before he came back and won.
- In his last 10 TvZs, Mvp has gone 10-0.
- Bomber has only played 5 maps since dropping out of Code A, less than any other player in the same time period.
- Innovation has twice as many games featured in TeamLiquid's "Best Games of 2013" as the next player. Unfortunately, many of those end with him losing.
- There have been no battlecruisers or carriers (deliberately) produced in any WCS Finals so far this year.
- Forge first in PvP is still just as impossible to make work as when Oz tried to use it in Code S in 2012.
- TvT and ZvZ are the two match-ups to not have been played in a WCS finals.
The other stuff
- Soulkey has a history of always losing the first series at tournaments which doesn't bode well for single-elimination
- Innovation's new software update has arrived! Now with 48.54% more confidence in TvT and TvP but with 21.07% less confidence in TvZ
- Taeja and HerO can potentially end up facing each other in the finals. The last two times HerO and Taeja played an offline Bo5+, HerO won convincingly.
- Along with his Season 2 money, Bomber wants to use the $100.000 first prize to buy a house
- Every WCS Season Finals has ended in a very one-sided stomps. If Blizzcon does as well, the grand total will be 16-0.
- None of last year's WCS champions will play at Blizzcon. WCS Asia champion Rain came closest but ended up in 19th place.
- If Jim had been able to attend the Season 2 Finals, aLive would not be at Blizzcon as he would only have 3125 points, 75 less than the minimum.
- Every match-up is possible in the finals. Yes, even ZvZ.
- Four WCS finals re-matches are possible in the finals: Bomber - Jaedong, Innovation - Soulkey, sOs vs Innovation and MMA - MC.
- An EG team-kill is possible in the finals.
- A minimum of 46 games will be played at Blizzcon. The maximum amount of games is 77.
- Blizzcon has the largest prize pool of any SC2 tournament ever.
- The Blizzcon Live Report thread currently has 276 pages, more than many GSL finals.
Time until Blizzcon
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Niiiice  Stoked!
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well shit guys eight of them are out in the first round D:
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Woah, I did not realize sOs had a rate so close to Innovation... yet Inno gets all the 'machine' glory O_O
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
MORE HYPE??
exactly what I need
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Dear has the least amount of televised games, at 207. He has never lost a Bo5+.
Life has a twin.
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Cool stats! We'll see how
Soulkey is the only player at Blizzcon that hasn't lost a series to a foreigner, ever.
and
Soulkey has a history of always losing the first series at tournaments
clash :D
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I'm still expecting the hype video
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Taeja and HerO can potentially end up facing each other in the semifinals. The last two times HerO and Taeja played an offline Bo5+, HerO won convincingly.
It's the finals!
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On November 08 2013 07:58 Zealously wrote:
[*]Soulkey is the only player at Blizzcon that hasn't lost a series to a foreigner, ever.
So ah, i guess Naniwa has got his work cut out for him
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On November 08 2013 08:05 xuanzue wrote:
I'm still expecting the hype video
There have been many :o
+ Show Spoiler +
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Soulkey has never lost to a foreigner. Doesn't bode well for Naniwa.
It's probably more because of this tho:
"Soulkey has not participated in any offline tournaments (that award WCS points) besides WCS this year"
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I don't think I've commented on it before, but I really appreciate all the work you guys have put into writing these pre-tournament hype-pieces.
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KR so underrated in aligulac.
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Very interesting stats.
Soulkey is the only player at Blizzcon that hasn't lost a series to a foreigner, ever.
TvT is the only match-up to not have been played in a WCS finals.
It's time for both of these to happen!
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OMG HYPE
Dat Jaedong 'ship stat 
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 08 2013 08:10 ElMeanYo wrote:
Soulkey has never lost to a foreigner. Doesn't bode well for Naniwa.
It's probably more because of this tho:
"Soulkey has not participated in any offline tournaments (that award WCS points) besides WCS this year"
He played in MvP and MLG Fall last year though.
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Russian Federation40186 Posts
On November 08 2013 08:17 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 08:10 ElMeanYo wrote:
Soulkey has never lost to a foreigner. Doesn't bode well for Naniwa.
It's probably more because of this tho:
"Soulkey has not participated in any offline tournaments (that award WCS points) besides WCS this year" He played in MvP and MLG Fall last year though.
He only played KeSPA players in MvP and 2 foreigners at MLG Fall.
Edit: shame on me, his only series against foreigners were 2-0s of TLO and Idra.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 08 2013 08:20 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 08:17 Zealously wrote:On November 08 2013 08:10 ElMeanYo wrote:
Soulkey has never lost to a foreigner. Doesn't bode well for Naniwa.
It's probably more because of this tho:
"Soulkey has not participated in any offline tournaments (that award WCS points) besides WCS this year" He played in MvP and MLG Fall last year though. He only played KeSPA players in MvP and 2 foreigners at MLG Fall.
No.
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Thanks; fun stuff! A few thoughts though:
"In his last 10 TvZs, Mvp has gone 10-0." Yes, but how many of those were against foreigners?
"TvT is the only match-up to not have been played in a WCS finals." Don't think there's been a ZvZ finals either, or have I gone insane?
"If Jim had been able to attend the Season 2 Finals, aLive would not be at Blizzcon as he would only have 3125 points, 75 less than the minimum." Actually I think he would have had 2625, far less than the minimum...
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
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Naniwa ... the first foreigner to beat SoulKey ... I LOVE THE SOUND OF THAT
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Russian Federation40186 Posts
On November 08 2013 08:30 yawnoC wrote:
Naniwa ... the first foreigner to beat SoulKey ... I LOVE THE SOUND OF THAT
Soulkey already 2-0d him apparently. And if we consider dropping games, then Naniwa is like 5th.
Also, Polt JD finals are possible too.
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On November 08 2013 08:24 Zealously wrote:Hngh
yaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy
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On November 08 2013 07:58 Zealously wrote:
An EG team-kill is possible in the finals.
Same with Liquid and Acer.
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On November 08 2013 08:24 Yakikorosu wrote:
Thanks; fun stuff! A few thoughts though:
"In his last 10 TvZs, Mvp has gone 10-0." Yes, but how many of those were against foreigners?
"TvT is the only match-up to not have been played in a WCS finals." Don't think there's been a ZvZ finals either, or have I gone insane?
"If Jim had been able to attend the Season 2 Finals, aLive would not be at Blizzcon as he would only have 3125 points, 75 less than the minimum." Actually I think he would have had 2625, far less than the minimum...
man zelly where's the fact checking
also http://aligulac.com/players/13/results/?after=&before=&race=z&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&op=Filter :/
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
In the WCS season, Alive has killed the most EG players coming in with a double win against Oz, double win against Suppy and 1 win against Demuslim.
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Awesome thread. The hype can't be contained!
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Loving the daily Blizzcon articles!
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I love stats like these, so hyped !!
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These stats are awesome Glad to see JvZ is back ^^
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Polt beat only Koreans to win WCS America Season 3
I see what you did there.
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These types of stats remind me of ESPN. Great work.
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rooting for Mvp and MC, the oldschoolers ... too bad NesTea isnt there, but I guess he was missing like milion points to get to the BlizzCon
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Dang. 11% is a pretty significant difference between top and bottom winrates.
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Calling MC having the most televised matches is quite a stretch. JD should have him beat by a landslide for consistently appearing on actual Korean television (whose numbers would dwarf MC internet views.)
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Oh man, the stats, the stats, I'm in love.
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Oh Mvp is 10-0 in his last 10 TvZ
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Jaedong might have trouble here. His best MU is ZvZ, but there are so few zergs at Blizzcon...
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your Country52797 Posts
On November 08 2013 10:01 ffrozenfish wrote:
Oh Mvp is 10-0 in his last 10 TvZ
how the hell.. never mind it's Mvp
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EG team kill?
Jaedong vs aLive?
PLEASE DON'T.
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I guess if you use TLPD and you count series instead of individual games, Mvp is 9-0 in his last 9 series
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United States23455 Posts
Zealously made this thread to try to make it look like he has passion. Don't be fooled.
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On November 08 2013 10:40 Darkhoarse wrote:
Zealously made this thread to try to make it look like he has passion. Don't be fooled.
lmao. He needs real LIFE.
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On November 08 2013 10:32 slowbacontron wrote:
I guess if you use TLPD and you count series instead of individual games, Mvp is 9-0 in his last 9 series
I'm 14-1 in my last 15 series, against diamond on ladder.
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On November 08 2013 10:48 bearhug wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 10:32 slowbacontron wrote:
I guess if you use TLPD and you count series instead of individual games, Mvp is 9-0 in his last 9 series I'm 14-1 in my last 15 series, against diamond on ladder.
dude beast
what's your secret
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He's MVP!!!! Korean Zergs probably dogded him.
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On November 08 2013 10:48 bearhug wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 10:32 slowbacontron wrote:
I guess if you use TLPD and you count series instead of individual games, Mvp is 9-0 in his last 9 series I'm 14-1 in my last 15 series, against diamond on ladder.
you should join the LRSL
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On November 08 2013 11:20 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 10:48 bearhug wrote:On November 08 2013 10:32 slowbacontron wrote:
I guess if you use TLPD and you count series instead of individual games, Mvp is 9-0 in his last 9 series I'm 14-1 in my last 15 series, against diamond on ladder. you should join the LRSL
First LRSL bonjwa.
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Acer 2
Woongjin Star 2
CM Storm 1
TL 2
Soul 1
IM 1
EG 2
Alliance 1
StarTale 1
SK 1
Prime 1
MVP 1
Man, this is so diverse.
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Watch as we get a ZvZ finals and it ends with 4 6pools for a 20-minute Grand Finals.
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80% in bo5's. That MVP versatility.
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A bunch of really cool info in here, thanks! I hope some of the casters look at this, as some of this stuff could be really nice in helping to craft storylines
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Lovely post.
Anyone else completely shocked that Naniwa has a higher chance of winning it all than Soulkey?
wataf
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
I'm counting all games played in all formats in both wol and hots for maximum sample size.
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On November 08 2013 15:17 Zealously wrote:I'm counting all games played in all formats in both wol and hots for maximum sample size.
YOU MEAN MAXIMUM PASSION!!!!
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On November 08 2013 15:30 Grovbolle wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 15:17 Zealously wrote:I'm counting all games played in all formats in both wol and hots for maximum sample size. YOU MEAN MAXIMUM PASSION!!!!
You mean minimum relevance!
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What is that thing called hype?
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United States97276 Posts
You forgot
# of WCS Global Finals Maru will win this weekend: 1
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You forgot to add that Jaedong is at least 800% more manly and awesome than anyone else at Blizzcon, assuming Reach does not show up.
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On November 08 2013 17:39 Squat wrote:
You forgot to add that Jaedong is at least 800% more manly and awesome than anyone else at Blizzcon, assuming Reach does not show up.
Jaedong is more manly than everyone in a tournament with MC? Puh-Lease!
Awesome write up, you guys have been incredible
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Zealously you are a God !
Four WCS finals re-matches are possible in the finals: Bomber - Jaedong, Innovation - Soulkey, sOs vs Innovation and MMA - MC.
A minimum of 46 games will be played at Blizzcon. The maximum amount of games is 77.
Blizzcon has the largest prize pool of any SC2 tournament ever.
Holy shit ! hype is so crazy ... ! teamliquid really did a really good job .. in just nine hours this finals might hit almost 200k with what TL is doing
And even i would want to complete the cycle .. but please god no .. no more god awful grand finals
Every WCS Season Finals has ended in a very one-sided stomps. If Blizzcon does as well, the grand total will be 16-0.
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On November 08 2013 11:22 canikizu wrote:
Acer 2
Woongjin Star 2
CM Storm 1
TL 2
Soul 1
IM 1
EG 2
Alliance 1
StarTale 1
SK 1
Prime 1
MVP 1
Man, this is so diverse.
woooaahh .. this is crazy .. has there ever been a tournament this crazy before ? in terms of everything and how stacked this shit is ?
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On November 08 2013 18:36 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 11:22 canikizu wrote:
Acer 2
Woongjin Star 2
CM Storm 1
TL 2
Soul 1
IM 1
EG 2
Alliance 1
StarTale 1
SK 1
Prime 1
MVP 1
Man, this is so diverse.
woooaahh .. this is crazy .. has there ever been a tournament this crazy before ? in terms of everything and how stacked this shit is ?
The really interesting part is that it kind of questions the "Team Houses are the best practice environment" rule with a pretty good sample size.
If we look at it we have full "Kespa" houses in Woongjin, Soul (for most of the year) and kinda EG/TL for some time. We have esf houses with Startale, MVP, Prime and IM. And kinda no house with Alliance, SK, CM Storm and kinda Acer.
If the Kespa practice regime is really that much better why is this field such spread out in terms of practice environments?
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United States97276 Posts
since Kespa players (minus a very small number of B teamers in the qualifiers) didn't go abroad to WCS AM and EU there were less opportunities for them to get into the season finals so it's kind of a stretch to make a statement about it
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On November 08 2013 19:03 USvBleakill wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 18:36 goody153 wrote:On November 08 2013 11:22 canikizu wrote:
Acer 2
Woongjin Star 2
CM Storm 1
TL 2
Soul 1
IM 1
EG 2
Alliance 1
StarTale 1
SK 1
Prime 1
MVP 1
Man, this is so diverse.
woooaahh .. this is crazy .. has there ever been a tournament this crazy before ? in terms of everything and how stacked this shit is ? The really interesting part is that it kind of questions the "Team Houses are the best practice environment" rule with a pretty good sample size. If we look at it we have full "Kespa" houses in Woongjin, Soul (for most of the year) and kinda EG/TL for some time. We have esf houses with Startale, MVP, Prime and IM. And kinda no house with Alliance, SK, CM Storm and kinda Acer. If the Kespa practice regime is really that much better why is this field such spread out in terms of practice environments?
maybe because nobody expected that esf will perform better than most of the kespa that switched .. and as far as i can remember from the interviews most of the champions just ladder all the time lol .. maybe the secret to practice in sc2 .. practicing against diversity of playstyle since when you play on ladder .. god knows what people will do
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On November 08 2013 19:06 Shellshock wrote:
since Kespa players (minus a very small number of B teamers in the qualifiers) didn't go abroad to WCS AM and EU there were less opportunities for them to get into the season finals so it's kind of a stretch to make a statement about it
but maru and bomber?
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should have only looked at winrates vs Koreans...
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On November 08 2013 18:30 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 17:39 Squat wrote:
You forgot to add that Jaedong is at least 800% more manly and awesome than anyone else at Blizzcon, assuming Reach does not show up. Jaedong is more manly than everyone in a tournament with MC? Puh-Lease! Awesome write up, you guys have been incredible
Pff, Jaedong scoffs at your puny presidential protoss, possessed as he is of a most peculiar, prominent paunch, presumably pondering pilfering yet more perniciously produced pennies to supplement his already ponderous pile.
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On November 08 2013 17:39 Squat wrote:
You forgot to add that Jaedong is at least 800% more manly and awesome than anyone else at Blizzcon, assuming Reach does not show up.
Bitch please
edit:
This is MC after lots of alcohol:
+ Show Spoiler +
This is JD after lots of alcohol:
+ Show Spoiler +
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On November 08 2013 19:23 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 17:39 Squat wrote:
You forgot to add that Jaedong is at least 800% more manly and awesome than anyone else at Blizzcon, assuming Reach does not show up. Bitch pleaseedit: This is MC after lots of alcohol: + Show Spoiler +This is JD after lots of alcohol: + Show Spoiler +
Jaedong does not drink alcohol, he drinks the blood of his enemies.
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On November 08 2013 19:31 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 19:23 JustPassingBy wrote:On November 08 2013 17:39 Squat wrote:
You forgot to add that Jaedong is at least 800% more manly and awesome than anyone else at Blizzcon, assuming Reach does not show up. Bitch pleaseedit: This is MC after lots of alcohol: + Show Spoiler +This is JD after lots of alcohol: + Show Spoiler + Jaedong does not drink alcohol, he drinks the blood of his enemies.
In their skulls !
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Jang "MC" Min Chul $406,788
Jeong "Mvp" Jong Hyeon $380,020
Choi "Polt" Seong Hun $245,670
Mun "MMA" Seong-Won $223,175
Song "HerO" Hyun Deok $206,524
Yun "Taeja" Young Seo $136,823
Johan "Naniwa" Lucchesi $120,593
Choi "Bomber" Ji Sung $114,315
Han "aLive" Lee Seok $104,540
Lee "INnoVation" Shin Hyung $87,665
Lee "Jaedong" Jae Dong $67,910
Kim "Soulkey" Min Chul $67,635
Baek "Dear" Dong Jun $61,000
Cho "Maru" Seong Ju $50,749
Kim "duckdeok" Kyung Deok $42,890
Kim "sOs" Yoo Jin $35,260
This list needs to be updated with Jaedongs 400 000$ of price money from BW!
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SoulKey usually loses his first series in a tournament, yet he has never lost a series to a foreigner. So, which rule applies? I guess Naniwa is fucked. Also qualifying just from WCS Korea, this man is not to be fucked with. I hope Naniwa checked out SoulKey vs Dear and takes that route, because I have never seen any other style that didn't get demolished by SK.
Also so many good players...
GO SOULKEY
GO INNOVATION
GO DEAR
GO MVP
GO MARU
GO MMA
GO POLT
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On November 08 2013 19:46 Elroi wrote:Show nested quote +
Jang "MC" Min Chul $406,788
Jeong "Mvp" Jong Hyeon $380,020
Choi "Polt" Seong Hun $245,670
Mun "MMA" Seong-Won $223,175
Song "HerO" Hyun Deok $206,524
Yun "Taeja" Young Seo $136,823
Johan "Naniwa" Lucchesi $120,593
Choi "Bomber" Ji Sung $114,315
Han "aLive" Lee Seok $104,540
Lee "INnoVation" Shin Hyung $87,665
Lee "Jaedong" Jae Dong $67,910
Kim "Soulkey" Min Chul $67,635
Baek "Dear" Dong Jun $61,000
Cho "Maru" Seong Ju $50,749
Kim "duckdeok" Kyung Deok $42,890
Kim "sOs" Yoo Jin $35,260
This list needs to be updated with Jaedongs 400 000$ of price money from BW!
Jaedong is #3 highest earner overall, Flash is #2 and Fatal1ty (shooter god lolol) is #1. If Flash can edge out 8,2k more, he will be #1. Jaedong needs 10,2k more
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 08 2013 19:46 Elroi wrote:Show nested quote +
Jang "MC" Min Chul $406,788
Jeong "Mvp" Jong Hyeon $380,020
Choi "Polt" Seong Hun $245,670
Mun "MMA" Seong-Won $223,175
Song "HerO" Hyun Deok $206,524
Yun "Taeja" Young Seo $136,823
Johan "Naniwa" Lucchesi $120,593
Choi "Bomber" Ji Sung $114,315
Han "aLive" Lee Seok $104,540
Lee "INnoVation" Shin Hyung $87,665
Lee "Jaedong" Jae Dong $67,910
Kim "Soulkey" Min Chul $67,635
Baek "Dear" Dong Jun $61,000
Cho "Maru" Seong Ju $50,749
Kim "duckdeok" Kyung Deok $42,890
Kim "sOs" Yoo Jin $35,260
This list needs to be updated with Jaedongs 400 000$ of price money from BW!
Yeah I was considering adding BW as well but I decided to keep it strictly SC2 for consistency. We can agree that MC isn't the only rich motherfucker attending Blizzcon though, that's for sure
On November 08 2013 19:51 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 19:46 Elroi wrote:
Jang "MC" Min Chul $406,788
Jeong "Mvp" Jong Hyeon $380,020
Choi "Polt" Seong Hun $245,670
Mun "MMA" Seong-Won $223,175
Song "HerO" Hyun Deok $206,524
Yun "Taeja" Young Seo $136,823
Johan "Naniwa" Lucchesi $120,593
Choi "Bomber" Ji Sung $114,315
Han "aLive" Lee Seok $104,540
Lee "INnoVation" Shin Hyung $87,665
Lee "Jaedong" Jae Dong $67,910
Kim "Soulkey" Min Chul $67,635
Baek "Dear" Dong Jun $61,000
Cho "Maru" Seong Ju $50,749
Kim "duckdeok" Kyung Deok $42,890
Kim "sOs" Yoo Jin $35,260
This list needs to be updated with Jaedongs 400 000$ of price money from BW! Jaedong is #3 highest earner overall, Flash is #2 and Fatal1ty (shooter god lolol) is #1. If Flash can edge out 8,2k more, he will be #1. Jaedong needs 10,2k more
The Fatal1ty thing is hilarious. People kept making new shooters and he kept winning in all of them tt
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On November 08 2013 19:51 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 19:46 Elroi wrote:
Jang "MC" Min Chul $406,788
Jeong "Mvp" Jong Hyeon $380,020
Choi "Polt" Seong Hun $245,670
Mun "MMA" Seong-Won $223,175
Song "HerO" Hyun Deok $206,524
Yun "Taeja" Young Seo $136,823
Johan "Naniwa" Lucchesi $120,593
Choi "Bomber" Ji Sung $114,315
Han "aLive" Lee Seok $104,540
Lee "INnoVation" Shin Hyung $87,665
Lee "Jaedong" Jae Dong $67,910
Kim "Soulkey" Min Chul $67,635
Baek "Dear" Dong Jun $61,000
Cho "Maru" Seong Ju $50,749
Kim "duckdeok" Kyung Deok $42,890
Kim "sOs" Yoo Jin $35,260
This list needs to be updated with Jaedongs 400 000$ of price money from BW! Jaedong is #3 highest earner overall, Flash is #2 and Fatal1ty (shooter god lolol) is #1. If Flash can edge out 8,2k more, he will be #1. Jaedong needs 10,2k more
I wonder if anyone of them has made >1 milion in total earnings. Jaedong shouldn't be far away from that with his long career. He has also made commercials etc.
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that is was bloody brilliant read
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Amazing numbers so HYPED!
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These Aligulac predictions make 0 sense. Why do players have a higher chance of getting top 2 than winning the tournament? Why do the numbers randomly go up and down from different places?
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Israel2209 Posts
On November 08 2013 19:51 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 19:46 Elroi wrote:
Jang "MC" Min Chul $406,788
Jeong "Mvp" Jong Hyeon $380,020
Choi "Polt" Seong Hun $245,670
Mun "MMA" Seong-Won $223,175
Song "HerO" Hyun Deok $206,524
Yun "Taeja" Young Seo $136,823
Johan "Naniwa" Lucchesi $120,593
Choi "Bomber" Ji Sung $114,315
Han "aLive" Lee Seok $104,540
Lee "INnoVation" Shin Hyung $87,665
Lee "Jaedong" Jae Dong $67,910
Kim "Soulkey" Min Chul $67,635
Baek "Dear" Dong Jun $61,000
Cho "Maru" Seong Ju $50,749
Kim "duckdeok" Kyung Deok $42,890
Kim "sOs" Yoo Jin $35,260
This list needs to be updated with Jaedongs 400 000$ of price money from BW! Jaedong is #3 highest earner overall, Flash is #2 and Fatal1ty (shooter god lolol) is #1. If Flash can edge out 8,2k more, he will be #1. Jaedong needs 10,2k more
Holy.
This means that if Jaedong gets 4th place or higher this weekend he becomes the highest earning player in the history of ESPORTS.
What now MC fans?
Bitch. Please.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 08 2013 20:17 GolemMadness wrote:
These Aligulac predictions make 0 sense. Why do players have a higher chance of getting top 2 than winning the tournament? Why do the numbers randomly go up and down from different places?
Mathematically, it is more likely that Innovation wins the tournament than ends up in second place. For Taeja, it's more likely that he'll lose in the finals than win it.
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Unlike MC, Jaedong tastefully downplays his earnings, knowing that his vast wealth is merely a means to an end, something used to purchase the minds and hearts of lesser men in his bid for ultimate world domination.
Like Bane, Jaedong understands true power, and that money buys only the illusion of it.
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On November 08 2013 20:24 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 20:17 GolemMadness wrote:
These Aligulac predictions make 0 sense. Why do players have a higher chance of getting top 2 than winning the tournament? Why do the numbers randomly go up and down from different places? Mathematically, it is more likely that Innovation wins the tournament than ends up in second place. For Taeja, it's more likely that he'll lose in the finals than win it.
Correct and I'll make a bit clearer. Example:
Ro16: Innovation vs Soulkey
Ro8 Winner of Inno vs SK plays vs Duckdeok
Before brackets, we all are predicing that Inno and SK are getting Top4 results, but bracket can avoid it like I show in my example.
The chances are based on brackets and potential opponents in next rounds!
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United Kingdom36159 Posts
Be way more interesting just to see the HotS stats tbh :/
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With only 16 players, why don't they all have 100% chance of being top 16?
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fantastic read, thank you very much for compiling the numbers!
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On November 08 2013 21:02 Laekoth wrote:
With only 16 players, why don't they all have 100% chance of being top 16?
It's worded badly. Should be 9th-16th. 2nd instead of top 2 etc.
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On November 08 2013 21:05 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 21:02 Laekoth wrote:
With only 16 players, why don't they all have 100% chance of being top 16? It's worded badly. Should be 9th-16th. 2nd instead of top 2 etc.
That makes much more sense.
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It has been 1173 days since Jaedong last won a championship (WCG Korea 2010)
Ouch.
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We should makea new rule, finals are a BO69. then Dear is bound to win it and hit his average games per trophy lift :D
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Mvp vs Jaedong should be the finals, what a shame it´s first round.
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Wow, awesome stats. I didn't think Nani would be so high up there :D
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"On average, Dear lifts a trophy every 69 games."
That's the only number that ever matters (in more ways than one) eheh... I'm impressed by how Zealously is able to come up with all this neat numbers and stuff, it's really really amazing! Thanks!
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Be careful to not collapse from fatigue with how much you're doing for Blizzcon Zealously lol
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Colour me HYPED!! Can't wait!! Bliiiizzcccoonn! :D
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 08 2013 22:54 Noocta wrote:
Be careful to not collapse from fatigue with how much you're doing for Blizzcon Zealously lol
I would have done more BUT NO IDEAS
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thanks so super hyped, its gona be boring when either mvp or innovation is going to stomp the rest :D
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The stat that got the biggest reaction from me was the 1414 televised games by MC, to think I have seen just about all of them....
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
Oh, I almost forgot:
Number of times StarTale has been better than Prime: ∞
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MC has played SO MANY games.
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"Innovation's new software update has arrived! Now with 48.54% more confidence in TvT and TvP but with 21.07% less confidence in TvZ" hahaha very good :D
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On November 08 2013 19:48 NarutO wrote:
SoulKey usually loses his first series in a tournament, yet he has never lost a series to a foreigner. So, which rule applies? I guess Naniwa is fucked. Also qualifying just from WCS Korea, this man is not to be fucked with. I hope Naniwa checked out SoulKey vs Dear and takes that route, because I have never seen any other style that didn't get demolished by SK.
Also so many good players...
GO SOULKEY
GO INNOVATION
GO DEAR
GO MVP
GO MARU
GO MMA
GO POLT
INnoVatioN had never lost to a foreigner before NaNiwa beat him ;D
In all seriousness I see Soulkey winning 3-1.
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It has been 11 days since Dear last won a championship (WCS Season 3 Finals)
It has been 1173 days since Jaedong last won a championship (WCG Korea 2010)
ooo
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Long time since Ive been this hyped for a tournament, this feels much more official than the past "yearly finals".
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On November 08 2013 08:04 slowbacontron wrote:Cool stats! We'll see how Show nested quote +Soulkey is the only player at Blizzcon that hasn't lost a series to a foreigner, ever. and clash :D
History is about to be made folks!
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On November 08 2013 23:13 Zealously wrote:
Oh, I almost forgot:
Number of times StarTale has been better than Prime: ∞
Most accurate statistic of them all
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On November 08 2013 20:22 Noam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 19:51 NarutO wrote:On November 08 2013 19:46 Elroi wrote:
Jang "MC" Min Chul $406,788
Jeong "Mvp" Jong Hyeon $380,020
Choi "Polt" Seong Hun $245,670
Mun "MMA" Seong-Won $223,175
Song "HerO" Hyun Deok $206,524
Yun "Taeja" Young Seo $136,823
Johan "Naniwa" Lucchesi $120,593
Choi "Bomber" Ji Sung $114,315
Han "aLive" Lee Seok $104,540
Lee "INnoVation" Shin Hyung $87,665
Lee "Jaedong" Jae Dong $67,910
Kim "Soulkey" Min Chul $67,635
Baek "Dear" Dong Jun $61,000
Cho "Maru" Seong Ju $50,749
Kim "duckdeok" Kyung Deok $42,890
Kim "sOs" Yoo Jin $35,260
This list needs to be updated with Jaedongs 400 000$ of price money from BW! Jaedong is #3 highest earner overall, Flash is #2 and Fatal1ty (shooter god lolol) is #1. If Flash can edge out 8,2k more, he will be #1. Jaedong needs 10,2k more Holy. This means that if Jaedong gets 4th place or higher this weekend he becomes the highest earning player in the history of ESPORTS. What now MC fans? Bitch. Please.
Jaedong has made 444k in 6 years of pro-gaming. Mc has made 406k in 4 years. Per annum that is 74k for Jaedong and 101k for MC. "Bitch, please".
But yes, Fatal1ty´s position is in danger right now, Mvp and MC could overtake him with a win (MC would be 200$ short, if he gets second), Jaedong could do it with a top-4 finish.
In general, Starcraft 2 will be the first game to give out 9,5 million dollars after November (Blizzcon, HSC and Battlegrounds will push it over) and is on the best way to break the 10-mill milestone first.
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Sos won martial art tournament which was really stacked!
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By the way, there's a typo in the article. Taeja won Homestory Cup VII, not Homestory Cup VI. That was won by Snute.
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Here's a number I'd like to see: How often is Aligulac correct in its predictions?
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I wish more articles on TL were as good as this one.
Well done.
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On November 08 2013 23:41 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 20:22 Noam wrote:On November 08 2013 19:51 NarutO wrote:On November 08 2013 19:46 Elroi wrote:
Jang "MC" Min Chul $406,788
Jeong "Mvp" Jong Hyeon $380,020
Choi "Polt" Seong Hun $245,670
Mun "MMA" Seong-Won $223,175
Song "HerO" Hyun Deok $206,524
Yun "Taeja" Young Seo $136,823
Johan "Naniwa" Lucchesi $120,593
Choi "Bomber" Ji Sung $114,315
Han "aLive" Lee Seok $104,540
Lee "INnoVation" Shin Hyung $87,665
Lee "Jaedong" Jae Dong $67,910
Kim "Soulkey" Min Chul $67,635
Baek "Dear" Dong Jun $61,000
Cho "Maru" Seong Ju $50,749
Kim "duckdeok" Kyung Deok $42,890
Kim "sOs" Yoo Jin $35,260
This list needs to be updated with Jaedongs 400 000$ of price money from BW! Jaedong is #3 highest earner overall, Flash is #2 and Fatal1ty (shooter god lolol) is #1. If Flash can edge out 8,2k more, he will be #1. Jaedong needs 10,2k more Holy. This means that if Jaedong gets 4th place or higher this weekend he becomes the highest earning player in the history of ESPORTS. What now MC fans? Bitch. Please. Jaedong has made 444k in 6 years of pro-gaming. Mc has made 406k in 4 years. Per annum that is 74k for Jaedong and 101k for MC. "Bitch, please". But yes, Fatal1ty´s position is in danger right now, Mvp and MC could overtake him with a win (MC would be 200$ short, if he gets second), Jaedong could do it with a top-4 finish. In general, Starcraft 2 will be the first game to give out 9,5 million dollars after November (Blizzcon, HSC and Battlegrounds will push it over) and is on the best way to break the 10-mill milestone first.
A lot of the money in BW was not disclosed, I am reasonably sure Jaedong has made way more than that all in all. After this tournament, he will not only be the wealthiest player in actuality, but also in the official statistics.
So yeah, biatch, please be seated.
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^ I would be surprised if that even makes 50% of JDs total earnings...
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On November 08 2013 23:48 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 23:41 Xoronius wrote:On November 08 2013 20:22 Noam wrote:On November 08 2013 19:51 NarutO wrote:On November 08 2013 19:46 Elroi wrote:
Jang "MC" Min Chul $406,788
Jeong "Mvp" Jong Hyeon $380,020
Choi "Polt" Seong Hun $245,670
Mun "MMA" Seong-Won $223,175
Song "HerO" Hyun Deok $206,524
Yun "Taeja" Young Seo $136,823
Johan "Naniwa" Lucchesi $120,593
Choi "Bomber" Ji Sung $114,315
Han "aLive" Lee Seok $104,540
Lee "INnoVation" Shin Hyung $87,665
Lee "Jaedong" Jae Dong $67,910
Kim "Soulkey" Min Chul $67,635
Baek "Dear" Dong Jun $61,000
Cho "Maru" Seong Ju $50,749
Kim "duckdeok" Kyung Deok $42,890
Kim "sOs" Yoo Jin $35,260
This list needs to be updated with Jaedongs 400 000$ of price money from BW! Jaedong is #3 highest earner overall, Flash is #2 and Fatal1ty (shooter god lolol) is #1. If Flash can edge out 8,2k more, he will be #1. Jaedong needs 10,2k more Holy. This means that if Jaedong gets 4th place or higher this weekend he becomes the highest earning player in the history of ESPORTS. What now MC fans? Bitch. Please. Jaedong has made 444k in 6 years of pro-gaming. Mc has made 406k in 4 years. Per annum that is 74k for Jaedong and 101k for MC. "Bitch, please". But yes, Fatal1ty´s position is in danger right now, Mvp and MC could overtake him with a win (MC would be 200$ short, if he gets second), Jaedong could do it with a top-4 finish. In general, Starcraft 2 will be the first game to give out 9,5 million dollars after November (Blizzcon, HSC and Battlegrounds will push it over) and is on the best way to break the 10-mill milestone first. A lot of the money in BW was not disclosed, I am reasonably sure Jaedong has made way more than that all in all. After this tournament, he will not only be the wealthiest player in actuality, but also in the official statistics. So yeah, biatch, please be seated.
Yeah but we're talking about prize money here, not salary or team bonuses or whatever. Gotta be earned.
Unless you're saying that bw tournaments had secret prize pools? But that would ruin the point, cause then the tournament can just give it out to whoever, like to a famous player who doesn't do well but brings up the profile of the tournament. Nah, official prize money is what counts.
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On November 08 2013 23:48 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 23:41 Xoronius wrote:On November 08 2013 20:22 Noam wrote:On November 08 2013 19:51 NarutO wrote:On November 08 2013 19:46 Elroi wrote:
Jang "MC" Min Chul $406,788
Jeong "Mvp" Jong Hyeon $380,020
Choi "Polt" Seong Hun $245,670
Mun "MMA" Seong-Won $223,175
Song "HerO" Hyun Deok $206,524
Yun "Taeja" Young Seo $136,823
Johan "Naniwa" Lucchesi $120,593
Choi "Bomber" Ji Sung $114,315
Han "aLive" Lee Seok $104,540
Lee "INnoVation" Shin Hyung $87,665
Lee "Jaedong" Jae Dong $67,910
Kim "Soulkey" Min Chul $67,635
Baek "Dear" Dong Jun $61,000
Cho "Maru" Seong Ju $50,749
Kim "duckdeok" Kyung Deok $42,890
Kim "sOs" Yoo Jin $35,260
This list needs to be updated with Jaedongs 400 000$ of price money from BW! Jaedong is #3 highest earner overall, Flash is #2 and Fatal1ty (shooter god lolol) is #1. If Flash can edge out 8,2k more, he will be #1. Jaedong needs 10,2k more Holy. This means that if Jaedong gets 4th place or higher this weekend he becomes the highest earning player in the history of ESPORTS. What now MC fans? Bitch. Please. Jaedong has made 444k in 6 years of pro-gaming. Mc has made 406k in 4 years. Per annum that is 74k for Jaedong and 101k for MC. "Bitch, please". But yes, Fatal1ty´s position is in danger right now, Mvp and MC could overtake him with a win (MC would be 200$ short, if he gets second), Jaedong could do it with a top-4 finish. In general, Starcraft 2 will be the first game to give out 9,5 million dollars after November (Blizzcon, HSC and Battlegrounds will push it over) and is on the best way to break the 10-mill milestone first. A lot of the money in BW was not disclosed, I am reasonably sure Jaedong has made way more than that all in all. After this tournament, he will not only be the wealthiest player in actuality, but also in the official statistics. So yeah, biatch, please be seated.
All-in-all as in with team-payment and commercials? Or are there any OSLs/MSL missing in esportsearnings? In the first case, Moon would probably laugh at both of us with his giant paychecks.
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Soulkey has a 44% chance of finishing Ro16?
vs NaNiwa?
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Russian Federation604 Posts
Wooow! Awesome statistics! Thanks a lot!
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Criticise Blizzard all you want for WCS, lord knows it’s not perfect and has caused problems. But is there anyone out there who hasn’t been this excited for an SC2 event all year (that’s even going toe-to-toe with all the HotS launch hype and optimism it brought)? I do have to mention though a large part of this hype has been contributed by the writers, staff and community of team liquid. Give yourselves a pat on the back guys, four hours to go 
*edit* I say a "large" part, I of course mean pretty much all of it.
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I predict that all of them have a 100% chance of making it into the top 16. Suck it, Aligulac.
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HOLY COW IM SO HYPED HYPED HYPED !!! ! ! ! ! ! !! !
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Since we are already into prize-mathmatics, lets just summarize the guaranteed results of Blizzcon (everyone gets 5k):
Jaedong will overtake Flash and become #2 prize-money earner of all time
Polt will overtake 2 chinese Dota players and will go from place 23 to 21. If he makes top 4, he takes two more Dota-players and Bisu
MMA will overtake 2 korean LoL-players as well as Stork and sAviOr
HerO will climb from 47 to 42, while overtaking PartinG and NaDa
Taeja will climb from 64 to 59 and overtakes Puma
Naniwa will overtake OGRE1 (Halo-player)
Bomber will overtake ForGG and Sky (WC3)
aLive will overtake 4 Halo/Painkiller guys and Boxer
Everyone else is either not in the top-100 yet (Soulkey, Dear, Maru, duckdeok, sOs) or has to get deeper (Mvp)
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[*]In his last 10 TvZs, Mvp has gone 10-0.
Just make sure you all remember this. This is the King's weekend. Just gotta believe.
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HYPE! Oh, I can't wait to come back home from work! BLIZZCON, HERE I COME! :D
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On November 08 2013 07:58 Zealously wrote:- Soulkey is the only player at Blizzcon that hasn't lost a series to a foreigner, ever.
... - Soulkey has a history of always losing the first series at tournaments which doesn't bode well for single-elimination
Unstoppable force... immovable object. I don't think the world has been so at risk since the Hadron Collider was turned on.
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On November 09 2013 00:18 Greendotz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 07:58 Zealously wrote:- Soulkey is the only player at Blizzcon that hasn't lost a series to a foreigner, ever.
... - Soulkey has a history of always losing the first series at tournaments which doesn't bode well for single-elimination
Unstoppable force... immovable object. I don't think the world has been so at risk since the Hadron Collider was turned on.
Just out of curiousity: You don´t actually believe, that the Hadron collider is dangerous, right?
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On November 09 2013 00:20 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2013 00:18 Greendotz wrote:On November 08 2013 07:58 Zealously wrote:- Soulkey is the only player at Blizzcon that hasn't lost a series to a foreigner, ever.
... - Soulkey has a history of always losing the first series at tournaments which doesn't bode well for single-elimination
Unstoppable force... immovable object. I don't think the world has been so at risk since the Hadron Collider was turned on. Just out of curiousity: You don´t actually believe, that the Hadron collider is dangerous, right?
lol, the Hadron Collider? No, Aglets however.....
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This was fantastic! I actually haven't been to TL in a while because free time has been a bit lacking, so I need to start getting used to quality content. I caught the WCS S3 finals and I am super excited to see this. I'm just hoping for a good finals. THATS ALL I WANT
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first tournament in a while for me to be watching, hope its gonna be good - as i dont care anymore i dont root for anybody, just wanting good games for my enjoyment, maybe this can get me back to the game and lets me stop wasting time in wow TT;
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My main goal for the weekend is to not get banned from the LR thread for being too hyped and fangirly.
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All set up to watch these finals - coincidently watched the Maru vs Dear matches on restream earlier today which was a nice warmup. If we just get a few games like that this weekend it will be an amazing tournament!
Bring the hype!!!!!
And Dear to win it......triple WCS win, do it!! :p
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On November 09 2013 00:16 LimitSEA wrote:Just make sure you all remember this. This is the King's weekend. Just gotta believe.
Yeah he's gonna rock all two of those zergs. Rock em straight to the champeenship.
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On November 08 2013 23:41 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 20:22 Noam wrote:On November 08 2013 19:51 NarutO wrote:On November 08 2013 19:46 Elroi wrote:
Jang "MC" Min Chul $406,788
Jeong "Mvp" Jong Hyeon $380,020
Choi "Polt" Seong Hun $245,670
Mun "MMA" Seong-Won $223,175
Song "HerO" Hyun Deok $206,524
Yun "Taeja" Young Seo $136,823
Johan "Naniwa" Lucchesi $120,593
Choi "Bomber" Ji Sung $114,315
Han "aLive" Lee Seok $104,540
Lee "INnoVation" Shin Hyung $87,665
Lee "Jaedong" Jae Dong $67,910
Kim "Soulkey" Min Chul $67,635
Baek "Dear" Dong Jun $61,000
Cho "Maru" Seong Ju $50,749
Kim "duckdeok" Kyung Deok $42,890
Kim "sOs" Yoo Jin $35,260
This list needs to be updated with Jaedongs 400 000$ of price money from BW! Jaedong is #3 highest earner overall, Flash is #2 and Fatal1ty (shooter god lolol) is #1. If Flash can edge out 8,2k more, he will be #1. Jaedong needs 10,2k more Holy. This means that if Jaedong gets 4th place or higher this weekend he becomes the highest earning player in the history of ESPORTS. What now MC fans? Bitch. Please. Jaedong has made 444k in 6 years of pro-gaming. Mc has made 406k in 4 years. Per annum that is 74k for Jaedong and 101k for MC. "Bitch, please". But yes, Fatal1ty´s position is in danger right now, Mvp and MC could overtake him with a win (MC would be 200$ short, if he gets second), Jaedong could do it with a top-4 finish. In general, Starcraft 2 will be the first game to give out 9,5 million dollars after November (Blizzcon, HSC and Battlegrounds will push it over) and is on the best way to break the 10-mill milestone first.
SC2 passed $10 million a little while ago btw http://aligulac.com/earnings/
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On November 09 2013 00:47 slowbacontron wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 23:41 Xoronius wrote:On November 08 2013 20:22 Noam wrote:On November 08 2013 19:51 NarutO wrote:On November 08 2013 19:46 Elroi wrote:
Jang "MC" Min Chul $406,788
Jeong "Mvp" Jong Hyeon $380,020
Choi "Polt" Seong Hun $245,670
Mun "MMA" Seong-Won $223,175
Song "HerO" Hyun Deok $206,524
Yun "Taeja" Young Seo $136,823
Johan "Naniwa" Lucchesi $120,593
Choi "Bomber" Ji Sung $114,315
Han "aLive" Lee Seok $104,540
Lee "INnoVation" Shin Hyung $87,665
Lee "Jaedong" Jae Dong $67,910
Kim "Soulkey" Min Chul $67,635
Baek "Dear" Dong Jun $61,000
Cho "Maru" Seong Ju $50,749
Kim "duckdeok" Kyung Deok $42,890
Kim "sOs" Yoo Jin $35,260
This list needs to be updated with Jaedongs 400 000$ of price money from BW! Jaedong is #3 highest earner overall, Flash is #2 and Fatal1ty (shooter god lolol) is #1. If Flash can edge out 8,2k more, he will be #1. Jaedong needs 10,2k more Holy. This means that if Jaedong gets 4th place or higher this weekend he becomes the highest earning player in the history of ESPORTS. What now MC fans? Bitch. Please. Jaedong has made 444k in 6 years of pro-gaming. Mc has made 406k in 4 years. Per annum that is 74k for Jaedong and 101k for MC. "Bitch, please". But yes, Fatal1ty´s position is in danger right now, Mvp and MC could overtake him with a win (MC would be 200$ short, if he gets second), Jaedong could do it with a top-4 finish. In general, Starcraft 2 will be the first game to give out 9,5 million dollars after November (Blizzcon, HSC and Battlegrounds will push it over) and is on the best way to break the 10-mill milestone first. SC2 passed $10 million a little while ago btw http://aligulac.com/earnings/
Thats nice to see, I used esport-earnings until now for comparism with everything else. I knew, some stuff was missing there, but I did´nt expect it to be 800 k.
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Wouldn't be surprised, if they're trying to cover all games.
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Oh man I am such a nerd I love al of these numbers. And HOLY CRAP SOULKEY HAS NEVER LOST A SERIES TO A FOREIGNER!!!!!! Dang that sucks for Naniwa (or does it...)
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On November 09 2013 01:03 slowbacontron wrote:
Wouldn't be surprised, if they're trying to cover all games.
Well, it is about 10%, so I am at least a bit. Damn it, just compeared some data; looks like I have to submit 13k in 100 euro cups, so that the general gets represented properly.
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Hype train ain't stoppin for nobody.
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On November 09 2013 01:10 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2013 01:03 slowbacontron wrote:
Wouldn't be surprised, if they're trying to cover all games. Well, it is about 10%, so I am at least a bit. Damn it, just compeared some data; looks like I have to submit 13k in 100 euro cups, so that the general gets represented properly.
Well, GL then. I've spent many an hour trying to fill in gaps in Aligulac; it's more complete overall than sc2earnings but sc2earnings still has some prizes that Aligulac hasn't accounted for yet.
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Mvp should be 11-0 vs Zerg after the first round
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The Blizzcon Live Report thread currently has 276 pages, more than many GSL finals.
We must CRUSH this record. And it will be crushed, I think, before the end.
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On November 09 2013 01:22 youngkrazz wrote:
Mvp should be 11-0 vs Zerg after the first round
jaedong would go 10-0 against the same zergs fwiw
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On November 09 2013 01:29 Waise wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2013 01:22 youngkrazz wrote:
Mvp should be 11-0 vs Zerg after the first round jaedong would go 10-0 against the same zergs fwiw
Actually your post isnt worth anything because jaedong DIDNT go 10-0 against the same zergs and you are just making an assumption...and we all know what that means.
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On November 09 2013 01:32 stratmatt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2013 01:29 Waise wrote:On November 09 2013 01:22 youngkrazz wrote:
Mvp should be 11-0 vs Zerg after the first round jaedong would go 10-0 against the same zergs fwiw Actually your post isnt worth anything because jaedong DIDNT go 10-0 against the same zergs and you are just making an assumption...and we all know what that means.
calm down there, tiger. we're just hyping players, not writing academic papers
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Hype it!
This is going to be great. Shame about the hour, but passion will prevail.
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On November 08 2013 18:30 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 17:39 Squat wrote:
You forgot to add that Jaedong is at least 800% more manly and awesome than anyone else at Blizzcon, assuming Reach does not show up. Jaedong is more manly than everyone in a tournament with MC? Puh-Lease!
Nope, Squat is right.
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Not sure if the game Mvp vs Tefel was declared as a lost game for Mvp. Tefel had nothing except roaches+hydras, not enough Drones&Income and even not enough minerals for reinforcement.
I dont know about Inno vs Mvp, I will watch it.
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On November 09 2013 01:21 slowbacontron wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2013 01:10 Xoronius wrote:On November 09 2013 01:03 slowbacontron wrote:
Wouldn't be surprised, if they're trying to cover all games. Well, it is about 10%, so I am at least a bit. Damn it, just compeared some data; looks like I have to submit 13k in 100 euro cups, so that the general gets represented properly. Well, GL then. I've spent many an hour trying to fill in gaps in Aligulac; it's more complete overall than sc2earnings but sc2earnings still has some prizes that Aligulac hasn't accounted for yet.
Tried to get into Aligulac as well, exchanged contact with TheBB, but somehow I never find th time to ask him about how to do stuff. Anyway, just sent them the LP-article for the Close Combat Cup, that should do it for this evening.
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Major and international tournaments only. sOs won AIMAG as well
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Haven't been this hyped for awhile!
I'm getting pumpppped!
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On November 09 2013 01:51 Zealously wrote:Major and international tournaments only. sOs won AIMAG as well
Liquipedia lists it as a major tournament, but I see what you're saying. Loved the article, many interesting statistics here.
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Polt is going to win this. Calling it.
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On November 09 2013 02:02 spacecoke wrote:
Polt is going to win this. Calling it.
Only StarTale players win WCS Grand Finals
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awesome stats! this weekend will be epic! ^_^
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yeah im leaving work early for this shit ^_^
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On November 08 2013 07:58 Zealously wrote:
[*]It has been 11 days since Dear last won a championship (WCS Season 3 Finals)
[*]It has been 1173 days since Jaedong last won a championship (WCG Korea 2010)
I laughed real hard.
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The best part? We can watch it all without a virtual ticket. Cheers. 
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Wow, the Aguilac for Naniwa gives him way more credit than you would think. Why is his probability so much higher than say Maru or Soulkey?
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Innovation's software update made me laugh so hard.
So psyched for this weekend.
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On November 09 2013 02:58 R3DT1D3 wrote:
Wow, the Aguilac for Naniwa gives him way more credit than you would think. Why is his probability so much higher than say Maru or Soulkey?
Aligulac still probably isn't 100% accurate in predicting cross-region matches. KR vs KR and EU/AM vs EU/AM is more accurate. However, Nani's played (and beaten) some pretty good Zergs lately so there's that.
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On November 09 2013 01:50 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2013 01:21 slowbacontron wrote:On November 09 2013 01:10 Xoronius wrote:On November 09 2013 01:03 slowbacontron wrote:
Wouldn't be surprised, if they're trying to cover all games. Well, it is about 10%, so I am at least a bit. Damn it, just compeared some data; looks like I have to submit 13k in 100 euro cups, so that the general gets represented properly. Well, GL then. I've spent many an hour trying to fill in gaps in Aligulac; it's more complete overall than sc2earnings but sc2earnings still has some prizes that Aligulac hasn't accounted for yet. Tried to get into Aligulac as well, exchanged contact with TheBB, but somehow I never find th time to ask him about how to do stuff. Anyway, just sent them the LP-article for the Close Combat Cup, that should do it for this evening.
Aligulac's always open to more volunteers! I got in under Grovbolle's mentoring. If you don't have the time though it's understandable.
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Soulkey is the only player at Blizzcon that hasn't lost a series to a foreigner, ever.
Your move Naniwa!
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On November 09 2013 02:58 R3DT1D3 wrote:
Wow, the Aguilac for Naniwa gives him way more credit than you would think. Why is his probability so much higher than say Maru or Soulkey?
Ratings are completely off for some players (over or underrated).
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On November 09 2013 03:13 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2013 02:58 R3DT1D3 wrote:
Wow, the Aguilac for Naniwa gives him way more credit than you would think. Why is his probability so much higher than say Maru or Soulkey? Ratings are completely off for some players (over or underrated).
#ForGGeddon never forget
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On November 09 2013 03:15 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2013 03:13 TheDwf wrote:On November 09 2013 02:58 R3DT1D3 wrote:
Wow, the Aguilac for Naniwa gives him way more credit than you would think. Why is his probability so much higher than say Maru or Soulkey? Ratings are completely off for some players (over or underrated). #ForGGeddon never forget
The beast is tamed for now, but the day may come in which it awakens to feed upon a legion of EU Terrans.
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Extremely interesting read, I loved it, thanks. It helps build up the hype
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Do you think peoples without Virtual ticket will still be able to see premim stuff on youtube some days after the end of Blizzcon ? I dont have that much money to buy it
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So proud of Naniwa!
Winner of Soulkey/Naniwa will go to finals from the upper half and take out sOs/Polt in semi.
- unless Bomber is showing new meta and excellent form?
(he and Innovation has had time to develop it since not being in s3finals... and they are able)
Lower half is the hard half.
Dear, current no 1, oustanding so far, maybe only beatable by another P at the moment?
can MvP surprise Dear, he has the capacity and experience, bird phoenix again?
MC (old) vs Maru (young), will be fun, but not giving Maru much chance to go far, at best to semis tbh.
MC has shown some incredible games lately, consistent rising, will he peak? "Everyone" hopes.. :-)
but he has a tough road, I think Innovation will be the one meeting up Dear in the semis (semi-finals).
That would actually be a very "worthy" 2013 finals (if so, I think Inno takes it).
But I'm hoping for Naniwa to win! He has a decent chance to reach the finals at least!
Just 3 koreans to get by to the finals, thats common for Nani, take SK and the rest will follow!
What a game! And it starts in 4 hours !!
look at stats for Nani and all players at i.e. : http://aligulac.com/players/89-NaNiwa/
(interesting to see the stats over time in graphics also)
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and will the Terrans that have been in hiding, adjusting their meta, rise? (Bomber, Innovation, MvP)
and will Zerg survive even the first round?
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If SK, JD, SOS, MMA, Polt or Taeja wins I am gonna be so happy!
Dear, Naniwa, MC and Duck - plz do not win, I am still young!
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wouldn't vs K winrates be more accurate?
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"Innovation's new software update has arrived! Now with 48.54% more confidence in TvT and TvP but with 21.07% less confidence in TvZ"
ROFL
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The #1 Inno loses to #16 duckdeok
duckdeok dont care bout the odds
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On November 09 2013 11:24 Dragoonstorm7 wrote:The #1 Inno loses to #16 duckdeok duckdeok dont care bout the odds
Aligulac always seem to underestimate everybody from WCS Korea not named Innovation.
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yea but dat win rate doe...
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