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Woongjin's ZerO retires - Page 13

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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 25 2013 04:52 GMT
#241
On October 25 2013 12:05 ChoDing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 07:06 BigFan wrote:
On October 25 2013 04:54 ChoDing wrote:
On October 25 2013 04:52 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 25 2013 04:44 ChoDing wrote:
Aiite free, one of my favorite six dragons, time to join zero

By the way, where is poor guy? After all he played the damn games for 9 years :O


Idk...preparing his retirement statement?
God of battle is coming back to bw!

sorry, that's saviour -> God of the battlefield(final edit*)

*unless I'm mistaken lol


sorry to break your heart hun, but 전투의 신, aka god of the battlefield, korean caster referred to free

free is the god of the battlefield? I can't understand Korean^ lol. I went by the TL final edit thus the naming.

On October 25 2013 13:44 DMXD wrote:
I really though zero gonna be awesome at sc2 to be honest. He is not a generic macro zerg with great mechanical and he is one of the more creative zergs around in bw.

his game against Trap in PL finals was pretty amazing to watch but doesn't help that he lost and only just made code A qualifiers again.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
jsharick
Profile Joined April 2012
16 Posts
October 25 2013 05:34 GMT
#242
Siiiiiigh, all my favorite BW pros are retiring. Only Stork remains. Sad days. </3
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
October 25 2013 06:02 GMT
#243
On October 25 2013 12:12 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 09:43 Wonders wrote:
On October 25 2013 00:23 StarStruck wrote:
Considering Bravo was the StarS player picked up? Yeah, a lot of us saw this one coming. Stork nose to Sonic.]

On October 25 2013 00:06 Mattidute wrote:
On October 25 2013 00:00 DiMano wrote:
On October 24 2013 22:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
And now you know why nobody picked him up

I wonder if any foreign team offers him a contract?
I doubt that JangBi, Bisu and ZerO would miss the opportunity to travel around the world and play in foreign events.
I think they see no future in Korea and there was no opportunity to contact foreign teams coz it would look incorrect to ask for something for such big players so they decided to retire.


He probably had some foreign teams that tried to offer him a contract, but no doubt ZerO declined them due to to low salary (as ZerO probably wanted a Woongjin Stars-like salary that he had) and the 2 KeSPA teams that still actively hire players in SC2 (SKT T1 and KT) already hired a few new players lately so they probably didn't want to spend a big salary either on him at which point ZerO probably just called it quits and retired.



UMMMM, his salary with Woongjin was modest at best. Not every KeSPA player was making a whole lot you know. >_< Whether it be low-balling or asking for a pay increase his position to negotiate was meh considering he played second fiddle to SK going back to BW. Really shitty position for him nonetheless. -__-


Zero was a top zerg player before I even heard of Soulkey. His drone micro, storm dodging, purple glasses, and adorable smile made him my favourite player.

Time to finally change my team icon



Long, long time ago man. Well aware when ZerO was the go-to, but once SoulKey emerged he never really looked back. Still those guys weren't making a whole lot back then. It sucks when you don't have a lot of titles to show for your work but he did do fairly well. Just didn't really get paid for his efforts and Boooo on changing logos. I never changed mine from MBC for all these years even when Bisu and July got fucking traded. Heck, I'm even posting about Bisu being on the Telecom team for Sonic PL, but he was with SK last. Still BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Ha ha ha. I guess they have to make it fair. D:
There was literally never a point in bw where SK was better than zero...I mean zero left broodwar with a semi final osl run for crying out loud. SK was twiddling his thumbs at the time.
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TriZ
Profile Joined September 2012
Belgium379 Posts
October 25 2013 06:11 GMT
#244
Too many koreans leftover from BW. With no really impressive achievements it's only logical players are retiring. The BW-turned-SC2 scene was way too big to support such a large playerbase.
These retirements are really nothing strange, the scene's size is only normalizing. And there's still alot of players left.

Good luck to ZerO nonetheless! I liked his play in Proleague.
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
October 25 2013 06:26 GMT
#245
ZerO is a monster. Can't wait to see him destroy SSL/Sonic Proleague.
Jaded.
Profile Joined June 2013
United States125 Posts
October 25 2013 06:40 GMT
#246
ah yes I need more great zergs on afreeca ^^ come home zero, everyone's waiting <3
The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. What I'm saying is that there are known knowns and there are known unknowns but there's also unknown unknowns, things that we don't know that we don't know
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
October 25 2013 06:50 GMT
#247
On October 25 2013 13:52 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 12:05 ChoDing wrote:
On October 25 2013 07:06 BigFan wrote:
On October 25 2013 04:54 ChoDing wrote:
On October 25 2013 04:52 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 25 2013 04:44 ChoDing wrote:
Aiite free, one of my favorite six dragons, time to join zero

By the way, where is poor guy? After all he played the damn games for 9 years :O


Idk...preparing his retirement statement?
God of battle is coming back to bw!

sorry, that's saviour -> God of the battlefield(final edit*)

*unless I'm mistaken lol


sorry to break your heart hun, but 전투의 신, aka god of the battlefield, korean caster referred to free

free is the god of the battlefield? I can't understand Korean^ lol. I went by the TL final edit thus the naming.


Free is famous in Korea for his management during actual battles, while his decision making and macro might not be the best he usually shines during engagements, hence the name. I think alot of that came from the 6 dragons era though.
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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
October 25 2013 08:13 GMT
#248
My favorite zerg player has retired
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 25 2013 10:30 GMT
#249
Shame always liked him and woongjin in general.
Hope he plays bw
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 10:57:24
October 25 2013 10:56 GMT
#250
I said "Oh FUCK." when I saw this appear, but then it was what I was expecting.
So long as he plays and streams BW like others and then competes in the different tournaments like SOSPA, it is probably for the best given that he hasn't stayed on Woongjin Stars' SC2 team.
I've loved by.hero's stream recently (not that he ever went into SC2 ) and ZerO is one of those I would most like to see play.
ZerO - FantaSy - Calm - Nal_rA - Jaedong - NaDa - EffOrt - Bisu - by.hero - StarDust - Welmu - Nerchio - Supernova - Solar - Squirtle - LosirA - Grubby - IntoTheRainbow - Golden... ~~~ Incredible Miracle and Woongjin Stars 화이팅!
Eire_91
Profile Joined December 2011
Ireland82 Posts
October 25 2013 13:49 GMT
#251
;-;
"Quick mudelisps er good bicuz deyre like lots of early whirlybirds" - Axslav 2013
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 25 2013 15:05 GMT
#252
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lolmlg
Profile Joined November 2011
619 Posts
October 25 2013 21:04 GMT
#253
On October 25 2013 15:02 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 12:12 StarStruck wrote:
On October 25 2013 09:43 Wonders wrote:
On October 25 2013 00:23 StarStruck wrote:
Considering Bravo was the StarS player picked up? Yeah, a lot of us saw this one coming. Stork nose to Sonic.]

On October 25 2013 00:06 Mattidute wrote:
On October 25 2013 00:00 DiMano wrote:
On October 24 2013 22:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
And now you know why nobody picked him up

I wonder if any foreign team offers him a contract?
I doubt that JangBi, Bisu and ZerO would miss the opportunity to travel around the world and play in foreign events.
I think they see no future in Korea and there was no opportunity to contact foreign teams coz it would look incorrect to ask for something for such big players so they decided to retire.


He probably had some foreign teams that tried to offer him a contract, but no doubt ZerO declined them due to to low salary (as ZerO probably wanted a Woongjin Stars-like salary that he had) and the 2 KeSPA teams that still actively hire players in SC2 (SKT T1 and KT) already hired a few new players lately so they probably didn't want to spend a big salary either on him at which point ZerO probably just called it quits and retired.



UMMMM, his salary with Woongjin was modest at best. Not every KeSPA player was making a whole lot you know. >_< Whether it be low-balling or asking for a pay increase his position to negotiate was meh considering he played second fiddle to SK going back to BW. Really shitty position for him nonetheless. -__-


Zero was a top zerg player before I even heard of Soulkey. His drone micro, storm dodging, purple glasses, and adorable smile made him my favourite player.

Time to finally change my team icon



Long, long time ago man. Well aware when ZerO was the go-to, but once SoulKey emerged he never really looked back. Still those guys weren't making a whole lot back then. It sucks when you don't have a lot of titles to show for your work but he did do fairly well. Just didn't really get paid for his efforts and Boooo on changing logos. I never changed mine from MBC for all these years even when Bisu and July got fucking traded. Heck, I'm even posting about Bisu being on the Telecom team for Sonic PL, but he was with SK last. Still BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Ha ha ha. I guess they have to make it fair. D:
There was literally never a point in bw where SK was better than zero...I mean zero left broodwar with a semi final osl run for crying out loud. SK was twiddling his thumbs at the time.

At the end of Brood War they were separated in the Elo rankings by a whopping three points. You all need to stop mincing words.
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
October 25 2013 23:04 GMT
#254
Good news- more Bw incoming I hope.
11 years and counting- TL #680
Nerevar
Profile Joined January 2013
547 Posts
October 25 2013 23:06 GMT
#255
His mechanics looked pretty strong in SC2. His creep spread looked good back when I saw his games in the WoL part of Proleague. Disappointing that he never really achieved Soulkey's level of success despite being a solid Zerg on Woongjin, but I hope to see him stream some BW on Afreeca now.
Larvator
Profile Joined May 2013
Ukraine87 Posts
October 25 2013 23:25 GMT
#256
Great news!
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
October 26 2013 00:04 GMT
#257
;___: </3
AKMU / IU
chaosTheory_14cc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1270 Posts
October 26 2013 01:30 GMT
#258
One of my fav zergs, I loved watching his play style. I hope he decides to stream BW.
ChoDing
Profile Joined November 2009
United States740 Posts
October 26 2013 02:04 GMT
#259
On October 25 2013 13:52 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 12:05 ChoDing wrote:
On October 25 2013 07:06 BigFan wrote:
On October 25 2013 04:54 ChoDing wrote:
On October 25 2013 04:52 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 25 2013 04:44 ChoDing wrote:
Aiite free, one of my favorite six dragons, time to join zero

By the way, where is poor guy? After all he played the damn games for 9 years :O


Idk...preparing his retirement statement?
God of battle is coming back to bw!

sorry, that's saviour -> God of the battlefield(final edit*)

*unless I'm mistaken lol


sorry to break your heart hun, but 전투의 신, aka god of the battlefield, korean caster referred to free

free is the god of the battlefield? I can't understand Korean^ lol. I went by the TL final edit thus the naming.

Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 13:44 DMXD wrote:
I really though zero gonna be awesome at sc2 to be honest. He is not a generic macro zerg with great mechanical and he is one of the more creative zergs around in bw.

his game against Trap in PL finals was pretty amazing to watch but doesn't help that he lost and only just made code A qualifiers again.


lol i think its God of Battles in korean. korean casters always say '전투하면 윤용태죠' in english, 'When it comes to fight (or battle), its free' They always praise him for good fights and even when he was behind, they believed his good battles will bring come back for him to actually win the game.

anyways, zero, welcome to SRT till you go to army
관광 since 2008. Master of Cheese. God of Heartbreak Ridge.
aLt_F4tw
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada47 Posts
October 26 2013 03:11 GMT
#260
this makes me sad, can someone Pm him were I can meet him to pinch his cheeks ( non but cheeks )

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