EPTOn October 22 2013 22:12 Firestorm wrote:
Jaedong vs Naniwa in the finals, viewership would go through the roof.
Jaedong vs Naniwa in the finals, viewership would go through the roof.
2 kongs cannot be in same finals.
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
2 kongs cannot be in same finals. | ||
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waspen94
Sweden27 Posts
On October 22 2013 05:58 smogg wrote: This means if Revival gets 1st or 2nd in his Challanger group, he's gonna surpass Naniwa ;( Which would mean that if even a single other player gets 3200+ points, Naniwa is out... T.T Actually no. If he gets 1st in his group he will be tied with Naniwa. This would lead to them both going to blizzcon for a bo5 match to decide which one plays in the real tournament. The quote u have is for ties within the top 16, ties regarding the 16th place is in the lower quote. Edit: spelling | ||
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
Come on Naniwa, make it to Blizzcon and shut all the haters up! | ||
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Lorch
Germany3689 Posts
Naniwa won MLG Dallas 2011 so no sc2 kong. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
I dare to say that Kingston invitation, that JD won was harder than MLG Dallas 2011. So yeah, kong. | ||
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Mikau
Netherlands1446 Posts
On October 22 2013 20:06 Arno wrote: Seems to me that NaNiwa is not going to make it. First of all only two of Oz/soO/Dear needs to get 1000 pts (8th place or better) at the Season Finals. (Less likely but not impossible(?): Vortix 1500, Byul/Trap/Genius/Hack 2000 pts.) If that happens both Naniwa and Revival are out. I think Revival gets (atleast?) 25 more pts in CL (when are those games played btw???) 25 puts him equal to Naniwa and they could play that BO5 offline at Blizzcon, IF only one of the aforementioned "Season Finals"-players get the points they need. No, not looking good for the swede imho. Not true actually. They need to score 1500 points, they already have the points for being in the ro16 (500 points) added to their totals. So Oz/soO/Dear need 4th or better, Vortix need to make it to the finals and I believe Byul/Trap/Genius/Hack have to win it. | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
On October 22 2013 23:28 lolfail9001 wrote: I dare to say that Kingston invitation, that JD won was harder than MLG Dallas 2011. So yeah, kong. Taking a first place by beating Mvp and Nestea back when they were gods sounds pretty hard too. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On October 22 2013 23:57 AlternativeEgo wrote: Taking a first place by beating Mvp and Nestea back when they were gods sounds pretty hard too. Nestea, god? Did he beat him in GSL O_o? | ||
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rave[wcr]
United States1166 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On October 23 2013 00:03 rave[wcr] wrote: mvp vs soulkey possible... oh god mvp I am more worried for Soulkey actually. Mvp seems pretty confident against his old team mate. | ||
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
I would probably have enjoyed a group stage ro16 more, but it make sense for WCS points to give seeding. | ||
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Kamu
Germany11 Posts
I would prefer Rain, Flash, Parting, Dear and Symbol instead of Revival, duckdeok, alive, maru and naniwa, who made it only due to weaker competition in europe and america. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On October 23 2013 02:53 Kamu wrote: This will be a sick tournament, but I'm still sad, that these are not the best players by no means due to the wcs season. I would prefer Rain, Flash, Parting, Dear and Symbol instead of Revival, duckdeok, alive, maru and naniwa, who made it only due to weaker competition in europe and america. Ah cmon, Flash isnt even a top 5 terran (most likely), i get your point but the top 16 players pretty much all deserve to be there. | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On October 23 2013 02:53 Kamu wrote: This will be a sick tournament, but I'm still sad, that these are not the best players by no means due to the wcs season. I would prefer Rain, Flash, Parting, Dear and Symbol instead of Revival, duckdeok, alive, maru and naniwa, who made it only due to weaker competition in europe and america. lol Maru only made it due to weaker competition? I forgot OSL was hosted in Europe last season | ||
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
Arguably knockout is the least amount of matches but it also is tougher to plan while a competition or poule system is much easier to run a few matches at the same time. Not sure what kind of schedule they have in mind but I suppose they have to run matches at the same time anyway. | ||
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Prog455
Denmark970 Posts
On October 23 2013 02:53 Kamu wrote: This will be a sick tournament, but I'm still sad, that these are not the best players by no means due to the wcs season. I would prefer Rain, Flash, Parting, Dear and Symbol instead of Revival, duckdeok, alive, maru and naniwa, who made it only due to weaker competition in europe and america. Even though i agree that Rain is missing, i dare say that neither Parting, Flash, Symbol or Dear deserves a spot anymore than those who actually have one. Parting is very inconsistent and does often times rely heavily on build orders (soul-train for instance). While Symbol is indeed a good player, his score is so low that while he might have had a better score in NA, he would most likely not have made top 16 regardless of his region. For Dear regions didn't even matter since he didn't even play in Premier until season 3. And please don't say that Flash would have made it had he been in EU or NA. Had it not been for his legacy from BW Flash would be a nobody in SC2. When you consisently lose players foreigners and low-tier Koreans i see no reason why you would deserve a spot more than Naniwa for instance. Also i really don't understand why people still consider Korea to be the strongest region past ro16. People such as Taeja, Hero, Polt, Jaedong and Hyun is every bit as strong as most of the guy in WCS Korea. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On October 23 2013 03:27 Prog455 wrote: Even though i agree that Rain is missing, i dare say that neither Parting, Flash, Symbol or Dear deserves a spot anymore than those who actually have one. Parting is very inconsistent and does often times rely heavily on build orders (soul-train for instance). While Symbol is indeed a good player, his score is so low that while he might have had a better score in NA, he would most likely not have made top 16 regardless of his region. For Dear regions didn't even matter since he didn't even play in Premier until season 3. And please don't say that Flash would have made it had he been in EU or NA. Had it not been for his legacy from BW Flash would be a nobody in SC2. When you consisently lose players foreigners and low-tier Koreans i see no reason why you would deserve a spot more than Naniwa for instance. Also i really don't understand why people still consider Korea to be the strongest region past ro16. People such as Taeja, Hero, Polt, Jaedong and Hyun is every bit as strong as most of the guy in WCS Korea. Korea is the hardest region on all stages though probably. | ||
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Swisslink
2954 Posts
On October 23 2013 02:53 Kamu wrote: This will be a sick tournament, but I'm still sad, that these are not the best players by no means due to the wcs season. I would prefer Rain, Flash, Parting, Dear and Symbol instead of Revival, duckdeok, alive, maru and naniwa, who made it only due to weaker competition in europe and america. Rain: Agreed, he should probably be there Flash: Absolutely not, he just failed quite often even against opponents he HAS to beat in order to reach the finals Parting: Even less, there's a reason he isn't in the Top 16 - the reason is his ZvP, which is just straight up horrible at times. Dear: Arrived in premier league too late, I don't think it would have been different if he played in another region Symbol: REALLY bad results lately. In the current form, almost every player in the finals is stronger, imo. If you take the current form, I think Dear and Life would have been great if they qualified, but they both struggled too hard earlier this year, so they don't deserve to be there :-P | ||
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Yakikorosu
1203 Posts
I agree with Swisslink on everyone else. Keep in mind Dear can still make it if he gets to semifinals of S3 finals. | ||
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Prog455
Denmark970 Posts
On October 23 2013 03:28 lolfail9001 wrote: Korea is the hardest region on all stages though probably. I don't really think so. In S2 Finals WCS NA had 4 people in ro8 where Korea had 3. In the same tournament neither Maru nor Innovation made it out of their group, in spite of being sole Korean against people from NA and EU. Korea might be the strongest overall, but when it comes to the people who are actual contenders for Global Finals i don't think that Korea is notably harder than NA. | ||
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