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Flash Interview Code A (About IEM, criticize WCS) - Page 3

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papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
October 19 2013 09:28 GMT
#41
His attitude towards the game is inspiring. No excuses, always wants to improve, doesn't care which tournament or which format. Focus on getting better.

As soon as Blizzard fixes mech he is going to dominate.

Flash fighting!
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
October 19 2013 09:48 GMT
#42
Flash has a good mindset. No excuses, he lost because he lost, not because of game. I expect him to return to dominance soon once he hit his stride.
affliction
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany198 Posts
October 19 2013 09:53 GMT
#43
Call me impressed. I have never watched any broodwar and neither I like watching terrans in general (normally I'm a protoss guy), but Flash has such an awesome and likable attitude that he gathered a fan once again. I love his modesty. I wish him to win something big in the near future. Nobody deserves it more.
aslejoh
Profile Joined July 2012
Norway96 Posts
October 19 2013 10:14 GMT
#44
Just saying.. 2014, year of Flash in SC2
redslin
Profile Joined August 2012
China56 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 10:49:11
October 19 2013 10:49 GMT
#45
Ultimate Weapon FightinG!!!
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
October 19 2013 10:52 GMT
#46
Flash should have meched more vs Curious and DRG
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
October 19 2013 11:14 GMT
#47
Flash is a great person truly.
The heart's eternal vow
dukem
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway189 Posts
October 19 2013 14:10 GMT
#48
On October 19 2013 19:14 aslejoh wrote:
Just saying.. 2014, year of Flash in SC2

Amen, brother. Amen.
"Flash just accidentally killed grubby lol" - MangoMountain
theMagus
Profile Joined February 2013
578 Posts
October 19 2013 14:34 GMT
#49
this interview released my doubts about flash's overall mindset towards the game and the scene. good to know flash is still flash. fighting indeed!

thanks for translating
"Give away the stone. Let the oceans take and transmutate this cold and fated anchor. Let the waters kiss and transmutate these leaden grudges into gold. Let go."
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 15:25:57
October 19 2013 14:49 GMT
#50
On October 19 2013 17:41 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 13:14 BronzeKnee wrote:
On October 19 2013 12:42 larse wrote:
I think has to be thought of as a complete failure.


God has spoken.

Are you listening Blizzard?

No, because there's nothing to learn from that statement. If he made reasonable suggestions, sure, then it might be worth listening to. Otherwise his complaints are just as useless as a random TL poster.
edit - I love Flash too, so don't get me wrong. Just don't blindly think everything he says is worth gold, things he says should be kept to the same reasonable standard as anybody else


Of course, and I'm not a Flash fan (in fact, I didn't watch any BW and I don't think he is good). But you act as if there is no good solution and Blizzard is doing everything they can.

There was a successful WCS system, and they replaced it with an inferior one. So when he says he it was a complete failure after the first season of WCS was so successful, it stands to reason.... (I'll let you fill in the blank). Logic goes a long way.

Furthermore, the the community has explained to Blizzard in oh so many ways that region locking is a necessity (regions were locked in the first season of WCS) and has given many other suggestions to improve WCS. But Blizzard has ignored the advice of the community, and basically said that everything was fine.

Flash saying it is a complete failure is evidence to the community and Blizzard that everything isn't fine, and that Blizzard is wrong.

We all need to call a spade a spade here, and call WCS what it is: a failure. The sooner Blizzard realizes that, the better. So the question remains: are you listening Blizzard? Sure, you read this and hear us, but are actually listening?
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
October 19 2013 14:50 GMT
#51
"complete failure"

wow, hope something was lost in translation there
starleague forever
Penguinator
Profile Joined December 2010
United States837 Posts
October 19 2013 14:58 GMT
#52
On October 19 2013 23:50 a176 wrote:
"complete failure"

wow, hope something was lost in translation there


I doubt it. Assuming he's talking mainly about Korea, WCS has been a complete failure. If anything, it's made SC2 less popular in Korea than it was when there was just GSL/OSL. Blizzard fucked with the prize pools, and diluted the amount of skilled players. A lot of really great players that would normally be in GSL are now "taking the easy way out" by going for WCS EU/AM.
Towelie.635
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 15:08:50
October 19 2013 15:08 GMT
#53
On October 19 2013 17:41 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 13:14 BronzeKnee wrote:
On October 19 2013 12:42 larse wrote:
I think has to be thought of as a complete failure.


God has spoken.

Are you listening Blizzard?

No, because there's nothing to learn from that statement. If he made reasonable suggestions, sure, then it might be worth listening to. Otherwise his complaints are just as useless as a random TL poster.
edit - I love Flash too, so don't get me wrong. Just don't blindly think everything he says is worth gold, things he says should be kept to the same reasonable standard as anybody else

Because some has the right to complain about his job? And hes not the only one

It doesnt take a philosophy to see that we have less starcraft to watch and players have less chances & money to earn, not to mention all the (arguably related) disbanding/retirement. Does that read "failure" to you?
Salient
Profile Joined August 2011
United States876 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 15:43:50
October 19 2013 15:14 GMT
#54
I don't understand. There are so many SC2 tournaments. There are WCS games almost almost every week. We also have Dreamhack, IEM, Homestory Cup, and Redbull tournaments. There are also teamleagues (Proleague, GSTL, and Acer Cup). Blizzard has poured extra prize money into the scene.

As for the game's popularity in Korea. I'm not sure what can be done. Broodwar was a cultural phenomenon in Korea. There are a glut of eZ free online games now. So Broodwar level popularity is probably unattainable for SC2. Still, maybe good marketing for LoTV and more Blizzard prize money could help somewhat.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 17:14:23
October 19 2013 17:12 GMT
#55
On October 20 2013 00:14 Salient wrote:
I don't understand. There are so many SC2 tournaments. There are WCS games almost almost every week. We also have Dreamhack, IEM, Homestory Cup, and Redbull tournaments. There are also teamleagues (Proleague, GSTL, and Acer Cup). Blizzard has poured extra prize money into the scene.

As for the game's popularity in Korea. I'm not sure what can be done. Broodwar was a cultural phenomenon in Korea. There are a glut of eZ free online games now. So Broodwar level popularity is probably unattainable for SC2. Still, maybe good marketing for LoTV and more Blizzard prize money could help somewhat.


That is like saying you don't understand why people say the department store Sears isn't doing well because you see so many of them around...
MrRicewife
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada515 Posts
October 19 2013 17:31 GMT
#56
great dedication to his own discipline.
So? My dad can beat up your dad. - Jesus
EJK
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States1302 Posts
October 19 2013 17:32 GMT
#57
good luck flash
Sc2 Terran Coach, top 16GM NA - interested in coaching? Message me on teamliquid!
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
October 19 2013 17:59 GMT
#58
On October 20 2013 00:08 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 17:41 Zenbrez wrote:
On October 19 2013 13:14 BronzeKnee wrote:
On October 19 2013 12:42 larse wrote:
I think has to be thought of as a complete failure.


God has spoken.

Are you listening Blizzard?

No, because there's nothing to learn from that statement. If he made reasonable suggestions, sure, then it might be worth listening to. Otherwise his complaints are just as useless as a random TL poster.
edit - I love Flash too, so don't get me wrong. Just don't blindly think everything he says is worth gold, things he says should be kept to the same reasonable standard as anybody else

Because some has the right to complain about his job? And hes not the only one

It doesnt take a philosophy to see that we have less starcraft to watch and players have less chances & money to earn, not to mention all the (arguably related) disbanding/retirement. Does that read "failure" to you?


Well Retirement could be cause of Kespa entering into the scene.
There was place for ~150 players (and ~30 top players) in KR before Kespa came. So with Kespa entrance, players have to leave.
FileNotFound
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada5 Posts
October 19 2013 18:51 GMT
#59
Flash not impressed.

He is right, WCS 2013 forcing their methods and rules over tournaments that were already successful and established is silly.
I hope Blizzard feeds the tournaments, all of them, not just a 'special partner' in each region.

Most importantly, the major tournaments in Korea like PL need help to start off (hasn't really kicked off in sc2).

WCS could still be "in charge" by just giving out WCS points to however they want (hopefully way more to Korea with OSL, GSL, PL).
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
October 19 2013 19:09 GMT
#60
On October 20 2013 02:59 Insoleet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 00:08 Arceus wrote:
On October 19 2013 17:41 Zenbrez wrote:
On October 19 2013 13:14 BronzeKnee wrote:
On October 19 2013 12:42 larse wrote:
I think has to be thought of as a complete failure.


God has spoken.

Are you listening Blizzard?

No, because there's nothing to learn from that statement. If he made reasonable suggestions, sure, then it might be worth listening to. Otherwise his complaints are just as useless as a random TL poster.
edit - I love Flash too, so don't get me wrong. Just don't blindly think everything he says is worth gold, things he says should be kept to the same reasonable standard as anybody else

Because some has the right to complain about his job? And hes not the only one

It doesnt take a philosophy to see that we have less starcraft to watch and players have less chances & money to earn, not to mention all the (arguably related) disbanding/retirement. Does that read "failure" to you?


Well Retirement could be cause of Kespa entering into the scene.
There was place for ~150 players (and ~30 top players) in KR before Kespa came. So with Kespa entrance, players have to leave.


I dont buy into that bs anymore. Facts are: the game stalls, some lost interest, LoL is the shit, the system sucks, world's economy sucks. Please fix (not the last one though)
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