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zelevin
Profile Joined January 2012
United States261 Posts
October 19 2013 04:26 GMT
#41
Man! I can't wait to see what team puCK will make great!
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
October 19 2013 04:44 GMT
#42
On October 17 2013 18:03 FlamingPie wrote:
puCK is, and forever shall be, my hero.



Damn, that was awesome.

Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 19 2013 05:42 GMT
#43
On October 19 2013 13:12 jcroisdale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 12:29 Shikyo wrote:
On October 19 2013 10:25 jcroisdale wrote:
On October 18 2013 04:59 ReachTheSky wrote:
On October 17 2013 17:52 jcroisdale wrote:
This is weird he is a Premier league player and leaves ROOT. I would like some reason why, if not it just seems he is gold digging.


How dare someone try to make a paycheck off this game!



Man leave it to the internet hate machine to get mad over someone gold digging and getting called on it.

ROOT does so much for inspiring players and up and comers. Before Puck joined he was no where near as successful as he is now. He finally has made a huge break and he sees this as an opportunity to make more money. ROOT brought him up but when the money doesn't come he leaves. While none of you find this morally objective, I do. I wouldn't turn my back on my friends/family for a paycheck.

Without any statement we are not left with much to thin, besides he is leaving them for money. If he has different reasons then hopefully someone reveals them.

But I guess greed runs rampant around this parts.

You could compare this to young promising Finnish ice hockey players that are brought up in Finnish junior clubs and who end up going to NHL. This never happens and people are against that, right? Um no, actually it's considered a pretty large honor and it's very normal / expected ;S


You can compare it anything you want. The fact is he isn't going to some team, and ROOT is not some junior club. There are very few American teams who can claim to be better then ROOT. These teams also don't pay out huge for players, excluding Liquid and EG, which are very unlikely to sign him.


A team that doesn't have the funds to pay their players, and had to ask the community for donations to create a gaming house is what I would call a junior club. It's not that their players are bad or anything they're just not a well funded team.
havok55
Profile Joined May 2013
United States276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 19:58:29
October 19 2013 18:56 GMT
#44
On October 17 2013 22:57 Darkhoarse wrote:
Second loss for Root in as many days. Probably not a big deal but we'll see. Puck's a good NA player so hope another team has some interest.


Wasn't he their best player?

I've always seen ROOT as a progaming halfway house, so it's not surprising people would move on. I'm sure Catz would like to be making that EG money (for the team, pay his friends/players, etc), but I don't think he's motivated to put in that much effort to achieve it (or risk it not working out).
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 19:35:14
October 19 2013 19:35 GMT
#45
On October 19 2013 14:42 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 13:12 jcroisdale wrote:
On October 19 2013 12:29 Shikyo wrote:
On October 19 2013 10:25 jcroisdale wrote:
On October 18 2013 04:59 ReachTheSky wrote:
On October 17 2013 17:52 jcroisdale wrote:
This is weird he is a Premier league player and leaves ROOT. I would like some reason why, if not it just seems he is gold digging.


How dare someone try to make a paycheck off this game!



Man leave it to the internet hate machine to get mad over someone gold digging and getting called on it.

ROOT does so much for inspiring players and up and comers. Before Puck joined he was no where near as successful as he is now. He finally has made a huge break and he sees this as an opportunity to make more money. ROOT brought him up but when the money doesn't come he leaves. While none of you find this morally objective, I do. I wouldn't turn my back on my friends/family for a paycheck.

Without any statement we are not left with much to thin, besides he is leaving them for money. If he has different reasons then hopefully someone reveals them.

But I guess greed runs rampant around this parts.

You could compare this to young promising Finnish ice hockey players that are brought up in Finnish junior clubs and who end up going to NHL. This never happens and people are against that, right? Um no, actually it's considered a pretty large honor and it's very normal / expected ;S


You can compare it anything you want. The fact is he isn't going to some team, and ROOT is not some junior club. There are very few American teams who can claim to be better then ROOT. These teams also don't pay out huge for players, excluding Liquid and EG, which are very unlikely to sign him.


A team that doesn't have the funds to pay their players, and had to ask the community for donations to create a gaming house is what I would call a junior club. It's not that their players are bad or anything they're just not a well funded team.


Yeah with this guy. Any team running of donations / not self sustaining is amateur league.

Everyone does this in any serious line of work anyway. Anytime an individual becomes worth more than their company / boss / team will pay him, it's in their best interest to leave or you stop growing in whatever you do.

Have you ever changed company in your life? If you have, then well yeah......
BakedButters
Profile Joined November 2011
United States748 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 20:26:23
October 19 2013 20:24 GMT
#46
On October 17 2013 17:52 jcroisdale wrote:
This is weird he is a Premier league player and leaves ROOT. I would like some reason why, if not it just seems he is gold digging.


Gold diggin is forming a relationship to get money from that relationship without any hard work yourself. This is not gold diggin - don't demean a Pro when you have no idea of his background and intentions.

The more correct term is a sell-out, but you think these programers are raking in tons of money, that they being greedy? Get off you righteous indignation and go complain in another forum that maybe has some more substance, like celebrities or sports stars.
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jcroisdale
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1543 Posts
October 19 2013 23:13 GMT
#47
On October 20 2013 05:24 BakedButters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 17:52 jcroisdale wrote:
This is weird he is a Premier league player and leaves ROOT. I would like some reason why, if not it just seems he is gold digging.


Gold diggin is forming a relationship to get money from that relationship without any hard work yourself. This is not gold diggin - don't demean a Pro when you have no idea of his background and intentions.

The more correct term is a sell-out, but you think these programers are raking in tons of money, that they being greedy? Get off you righteous indignation and go complain in another forum that maybe has some more substance, like celebrities or sports stars.


Wow can you link me to this definition of gold-digging. Im sorry kanye didn't realize you posted on TL. I'm allowed to make pass any judgement I want.

I don't like his intentions, get over it.
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HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
October 19 2013 23:18 GMT
#48
EG Puck?
FeiLing
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany428 Posts
October 19 2013 23:36 GMT
#49
I'm surprised no one has suggested the next news is gonna be that Root or at least everything they do in concern to SC2 is going to be dismissed...
Frogstomp
Profile Joined January 2013
United States125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 23:45:23
October 19 2013 23:45 GMT
#50
On October 19 2013 11:44 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 10:25 jcroisdale wrote:
On October 18 2013 04:59 ReachTheSky wrote:
On October 17 2013 17:52 jcroisdale wrote:
This is weird he is a Premier league player and leaves ROOT. I would like some reason why, if not it just seems he is gold digging.


How dare someone try to make a paycheck off this game!



Man leave it to the internet hate machine to get mad over someone gold digging and getting called on it.

ROOT does so much for inspiring players and up and comers. Before Puck joined he was no where near as successful as he is now. He finally has made a huge break and he sees this as an opportunity to make more money. ROOT brought him up but when the money doesn't come he leaves. While none of you find this morally objective, I do. I wouldn't turn my back on my friends/family for a paycheck.

Without any statement we are not left with much to thin, besides he is leaving them for money. If he has different reasons then hopefully someone reveals them.

But I guess greed runs rampant around this parts.

do you feel the same about young free agents in sports who leave to get more money after a small town team develops them in their minor league system? because that's standards sports business. hell, it's standard business. being a big talent's "first job" doesn't entitle you to their whole career in almost any field.



Says the person who pretty clearly has never had a real profession career in anything. Welcome to the way the world works. Grow up.
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
October 20 2013 01:39 GMT
#51
On October 19 2013 10:25 jcroisdale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 04:59 ReachTheSky wrote:
On October 17 2013 17:52 jcroisdale wrote:
This is weird he is a Premier league player and leaves ROOT. I would like some reason why, if not it just seems he is gold digging.


How dare someone try to make a paycheck off this game!



Man leave it to the internet hate machine to get mad over someone gold digging and getting called on it.

ROOT does so much for inspiring players and up and comers. Before Puck joined he was no where near as successful as he is now. He finally has made a huge break and he sees this as an opportunity to make more money. ROOT brought him up but when the money doesn't come he leaves. While none of you find this morally objective, I do. I wouldn't turn my back on my friends/family for a paycheck.

Without any statement we are not left with much to thin, besides he is leaving them for money. If he has different reasons then hopefully someone reveals them.

But I guess greed runs rampant around this parts.


Okay, I was going to limit myself from posting anything really in this thread but you have absolutely no fucking clue what you're talking about. I am absolutely disgusted with people like you in this community. You preface your post as if to say you know what you're talking about when you clearly don't know jack shit about Puck and probably many other players you post about.

Let me enlighten you: Puck was a top 16 GM player since BEFORE CONVERGENCE GAMING. Do you even comprehend that sentence? That's like 2011. So what the fuck are you talking about? Sure, he's been with ROOT a while, and sure, they've most certainly helped Puck out in many ways but to say that he OWES them something is your lack of understanding of what a contract is. It's a mutually beneficially agreement not only for Puck, who himself stated that he may even return to ROOT, but for ROOT gaming itself. So to say he's turning his back on the team is simply due to your own stupidity and makes you look like a complete prick.

Looking out for ones own well-being and the pursuit of a decent living does not equate to greed. If I had the power I'd surely ban people like you for spewing so much hate that has come into this community since SC2 because you lack any basic logic, shame, or reason.

Basically, fuck off.

+ Show Spoiler +
Good luck to Puck. Hope to see more success for yourself and America in WCS
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phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
October 20 2013 02:04 GMT
#52
On October 19 2013 10:25 jcroisdale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 04:59 ReachTheSky wrote:
On October 17 2013 17:52 jcroisdale wrote:
This is weird he is a Premier league player and leaves ROOT. I would like some reason why, if not it just seems he is gold digging.


How dare someone try to make a paycheck off this game!



Man leave it to the internet hate machine to get mad over someone gold digging and getting called on it.

ROOT does so much for inspiring players and up and comers. Before Puck joined he was no where near as successful as he is now. He finally has made a huge break and he sees this as an opportunity to make more money. ROOT brought him up but when the money doesn't come he leaves. While none of you find this morally objective, I do. I wouldn't turn my back on my friends/family for a paycheck.

Without any statement we are not left with much to thin, besides he is leaving them for money. If he has different reasons then hopefully someone reveals them.

But I guess greed runs rampant around this parts.


People need to eat in the real world. Puck is playing this game as a job, not to make random people on the internet happy. If he thinks other team out there are willing to pay higher for what he has to offer and his contract is up, then why shouldn't he be able to move on? People change jobs all the time. If i was working at mcdonald and i got offered a new job somewhere else that pays more, why shouldn't i take it? It's not like Puck is never going to talk to the Root guys again, he's just switching team not shunning his old team mates. Without money, how will he pays for his electricity bill and eat? Root doesn't own Puck, slavery was banned a long time ago.
Leru
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Romania257 Posts
October 20 2013 04:57 GMT
#53
It's not all black and white .. In this case, considering ROOT's finances, I think he made the right decission in order to sustain himself from playing this game ( although no new team was announce, as far as I know ).
However, if ROOT was a more financially stable team and he would have left to another team for 10-20% raise, I would call that greedy too :-)

Offtopic:
On October 20 2013 11:04 phodacbiet wrote:
Root doesn't own Puck, slavery was banned a long time ago.


Ask the guys in Shenzhen, China how they feel about that, while building your iPhone. I have a friend that works as an engineer and makes frequent visits there. It's as bad as they say.
Less e$ports, more fun
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 20 2013 05:06 GMT
#54
On October 20 2013 10:39 -Kyo- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 10:25 jcroisdale wrote:
On October 18 2013 04:59 ReachTheSky wrote:
On October 17 2013 17:52 jcroisdale wrote:
This is weird he is a Premier league player and leaves ROOT. I would like some reason why, if not it just seems he is gold digging.


How dare someone try to make a paycheck off this game!



Man leave it to the internet hate machine to get mad over someone gold digging and getting called on it.

ROOT does so much for inspiring players and up and comers. Before Puck joined he was no where near as successful as he is now. He finally has made a huge break and he sees this as an opportunity to make more money. ROOT brought him up but when the money doesn't come he leaves. While none of you find this morally objective, I do. I wouldn't turn my back on my friends/family for a paycheck.

Without any statement we are not left with much to thin, besides he is leaving them for money. If he has different reasons then hopefully someone reveals them.

But I guess greed runs rampant around this parts.


Okay, I was going to limit myself from posting anything really in this thread but you have absolutely no fucking clue what you're talking about. I am absolutely disgusted with people like you in this community. You preface your post as if to say you know what you're talking about when you clearly don't know jack shit about Puck and probably many other players you post about.

Let me enlighten you: Puck was a top 16 GM player since BEFORE CONVERGENCE GAMING. Do you even comprehend that sentence? That's like 2011. So what the fuck are you talking about? Sure, he's been with ROOT a while, and sure, they've most certainly helped Puck out in many ways but to say that he OWES them something is your lack of understanding of what a contract is. It's a mutually beneficially agreement not only for Puck, who himself stated that he may even return to ROOT, but for ROOT gaming itself. So to say he's turning his back on the team is simply due to your own stupidity and makes you look like a complete prick.

Looking out for ones own well-being and the pursuit of a decent living does not equate to greed. If I had the power I'd surely ban people like you for spewing so much hate that has come into this community since SC2 because you lack any basic logic, shame, or reason.

Basically, fuck off.

+ Show Spoiler +
Good luck to Puck. Hope to see more success for yourself and America in WCS


The idea of using the term "gold digging" to describe someone like Puck is... laughable. I can't even fathom this being a remotely serious comment but I guess an idiot is born every second.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
October 20 2013 05:16 GMT
#55
On October 20 2013 10:39 -Kyo- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 10:25 jcroisdale wrote:
On October 18 2013 04:59 ReachTheSky wrote:
On October 17 2013 17:52 jcroisdale wrote:
This is weird he is a Premier league player and leaves ROOT. I would like some reason why, if not it just seems he is gold digging.


How dare someone try to make a paycheck off this game!



Man leave it to the internet hate machine to get mad over someone gold digging and getting called on it.

ROOT does so much for inspiring players and up and comers. Before Puck joined he was no where near as successful as he is now. He finally has made a huge break and he sees this as an opportunity to make more money. ROOT brought him up but when the money doesn't come he leaves. While none of you find this morally objective, I do. I wouldn't turn my back on my friends/family for a paycheck.

Without any statement we are not left with much to thin, besides he is leaving them for money. If he has different reasons then hopefully someone reveals them.

But I guess greed runs rampant around this parts.


Okay, I was going to limit myself from posting anything really in this thread but you have absolutely no fucking clue what you're talking about. I am absolutely disgusted with people like you in this community. You preface your post as if to say you know what you're talking about when you clearly don't know jack shit about Puck and probably many other players you post about.

Let me enlighten you: Puck was a top 16 GM player since BEFORE CONVERGENCE GAMING. Do you even comprehend that sentence? That's like 2011. So what the fuck are you talking about? Sure, he's been with ROOT a while, and sure, they've most certainly helped Puck out in many ways but to say that he OWES them something is your lack of understanding of what a contract is. It's a mutually beneficially agreement not only for Puck, who himself stated that he may even return to ROOT, but for ROOT gaming itself. So to say he's turning his back on the team is simply due to your own stupidity and makes you look like a complete prick.

Looking out for ones own well-being and the pursuit of a decent living does not equate to greed. If I had the power I'd surely ban people like you for spewing so much hate that has come into this community since SC2 because you lack any basic logic, shame, or reason.

Basically, fuck off.

+ Show Spoiler +
Good luck to Puck. Hope to see more success for yourself and America in WCS


Well said!
dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-20 10:43:33
October 20 2013 10:40 GMT
#56
Puck ows ROOT? Huh? For what? It's just a smart move to ditch the ROOT name. Same with Nathanias. It's more of a liability and a signal of unprofessionalism than anything else.
SolidSMD
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium408 Posts
October 20 2013 11:56 GMT
#57
On October 20 2013 10:39 -Kyo- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 10:25 jcroisdale wrote:
On October 18 2013 04:59 ReachTheSky wrote:
On October 17 2013 17:52 jcroisdale wrote:
This is weird he is a Premier league player and leaves ROOT. I would like some reason why, if not it just seems he is gold digging.


How dare someone try to make a paycheck off this game!



Man leave it to the internet hate machine to get mad over someone gold digging and getting called on it.

ROOT does so much for inspiring players and up and comers. Before Puck joined he was no where near as successful as he is now. He finally has made a huge break and he sees this as an opportunity to make more money. ROOT brought him up but when the money doesn't come he leaves. While none of you find this morally objective, I do. I wouldn't turn my back on my friends/family for a paycheck.

Without any statement we are not left with much to thin, besides he is leaving them for money. If he has different reasons then hopefully someone reveals them.

But I guess greed runs rampant around this parts.


Okay, I was going to limit myself from posting anything really in this thread but you have absolutely no fucking clue what you're talking about. I am absolutely disgusted with people like you in this community. You preface your post as if to say you know what you're talking about when you clearly don't know jack shit about Puck and probably many other players you post about.

Let me enlighten you: Puck was a top 16 GM player since BEFORE CONVERGENCE GAMING. Do you even comprehend that sentence? That's like 2011. So what the fuck are you talking about? Sure, he's been with ROOT a while, and sure, they've most certainly helped Puck out in many ways but to say that he OWES them something is your lack of understanding of what a contract is. It's a mutually beneficially agreement not only for Puck, who himself stated that he may even return to ROOT, but for ROOT gaming itself. So to say he's turning his back on the team is simply due to your own stupidity and makes you look like a complete prick.

Looking out for ones own well-being and the pursuit of a decent living does not equate to greed. If I had the power I'd surely ban people like you for spewing so much hate that has come into this community since SC2 because you lack any basic logic, shame, or reason.

Basically, fuck off.

+ Show Spoiler +
Good luck to Puck. Hope to see more success for yourself and America in WCS


Well said, I'm glad there are still some decent people on TL.
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SoniC_eu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1008 Posts
October 20 2013 12:29 GMT
#58
GL with ur future Puck.
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-20 12:44:45
October 20 2013 12:32 GMT
#59
He was one of my favourite players...

I really hope Puck gets another team.
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Batiste
Profile Joined May 2013
United Kingdom69 Posts
October 20 2013 12:42 GMT
#60
Think you're all forgetting that him and Minigun wasn't friends which lead to them moving away from eachother in the house, then they played in PL so they prob had a argument, and we all know CatZ loves Minigun more so Puck was the one who had to go
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