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On October 02 2013 16:24 myminerals wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 14:54 UmberBane wrote:On October 02 2013 14:50 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
And so it continues. I wonder what warcraft3 forums was like everday when the game was dying. For convenience you could also check out some older BW posts BW was never dying and Kespa would still play it, and we would witness new OSL champions and crowded stadiums and new amazing games. All this could be our today's reality. SC2 better be alive and flourishing, I think we sacrificed too much for its sake.
Can you tell me why there was such a big time gap between jinair and tving starleague? I also want to to know why skt is sponsoring proleague. Youre dillusional if you really think broodwar wasnt dying
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Well, I hope starcraft will do a turn to the better in Korea, but sadly I don't think that is possible. The interest of the Korean people is just not there anymore, and where there are few viewers, there are even less sponsors. :-/
KespA and Blizzard need some new tactic for the Korean market and they need it soon, as I doubt things will get better on their own over there.
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On October 02 2013 16:57 mongmong wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 16:24 myminerals wrote:On October 02 2013 14:54 UmberBane wrote:On October 02 2013 14:50 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
And so it continues. I wonder what warcraft3 forums was like everday when the game was dying. For convenience you could also check out some older BW posts BW was never dying and Kespa would still play it, and we would witness new OSL champions and crowded stadiums and new amazing games. All this could be our today's reality. SC2 better be alive and flourishing, I think we sacrificed too much for its sake. Can you tell me why there was such a big time gap between jinair and tving starleague? I also want to to know why skt is sponsoring proleague. Youre dillusional if you really think broodwar wasnt dying
Dude thats like totally natural and shit. Just like mbc game shutting down and fox/hero/hyte/oz disbanding. BW was totally on the up and up towards its end. The introduction of dota 2 to korea will also be really good for lol, competition and all you know.
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On October 02 2013 16:44 felisconcolori wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 16:27 Ammanas wrote:On October 02 2013 16:19 fuzzylogic44 wrote:On October 02 2013 16:02 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
Come on, this has probably nothing to do with this but imo korean teams really need to do a better job at promoting their sponsors for foreign fans!!!
EG is honestly the only team that is doing a decent job (and lg-Im for a little bit) at constantly promoting the companies giving them money.
To be honest I don't even know what FXOpen even is. I can't name a single sponsor of Prime or MVP. That's because they don't have any ^^ Not entirely true. Prime still doubles as models and sells clothes. And they rep Tt Esports gear. (As you'll find, if you got to the PrimeZzang global site.) It appears that the selection of clothes available from the site may be very limited on the English site - only see the one hoodie, all of the other Prime uniform items are no longer listed. Wonder how Artosis feels about sharing a sponsor with MKP...
On October 02 2013 16:47 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 16:27 Ammanas wrote:On October 02 2013 16:19 fuzzylogic44 wrote:On October 02 2013 16:02 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
Come on, this has probably nothing to do with this but imo korean teams really need to do a better job at promoting their sponsors for foreign fans!!!
EG is honestly the only team that is doing a decent job (and lg-Im for a little bit) at constantly promoting the companies giving them money.
To be honest I don't even know what FXOpen even is. I can't name a single sponsor of Prime or MVP. That's because they don't have any ^^ Uhm, MVP is sponsored by Hot6ix and Razer... TL even sells the MVP Goliathus... Prime on the other hand has made its own brand with their online shop, but ISTR they got some sponsors, computer stuff related ones.
I know all this.
It was supposed to be a joke.
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On October 02 2013 17:01 Lorch wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 16:57 mongmong wrote:On October 02 2013 16:24 myminerals wrote:On October 02 2013 14:54 UmberBane wrote:On October 02 2013 14:50 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
And so it continues. I wonder what warcraft3 forums was like everday when the game was dying. For convenience you could also check out some older BW posts BW was never dying and Kespa would still play it, and we would witness new OSL champions and crowded stadiums and new amazing games. All this could be our today's reality. SC2 better be alive and flourishing, I think we sacrificed too much for its sake. Can you tell me why there was such a big time gap between jinair and tving starleague? I also want to to know why skt is sponsoring proleague. Youre dillusional if you really think broodwar wasnt dying Dude thats like totally natural and shit. Just like mbc game shutting down and fox/hero/hyte/oz disbanding. BW was totally on the up and up towards its end. The introduction of dota 2 to korea will also be really good for lol, competition and all you know.
Then again when WC3 started being broadcasted in Korea nothing much changed in the BW world really
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On October 02 2013 17:05 UmberBane wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 17:01 Lorch wrote:On October 02 2013 16:57 mongmong wrote:On October 02 2013 16:24 myminerals wrote:On October 02 2013 14:54 UmberBane wrote:On October 02 2013 14:50 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
And so it continues. I wonder what warcraft3 forums was like everday when the game was dying. For convenience you could also check out some older BW posts BW was never dying and Kespa would still play it, and we would witness new OSL champions and crowded stadiums and new amazing games. All this could be our today's reality. SC2 better be alive and flourishing, I think we sacrificed too much for its sake. Can you tell me why there was such a big time gap between jinair and tving starleague? I also want to to know why skt is sponsoring proleague. Youre dillusional if you really think broodwar wasnt dying Dude thats like totally natural and shit. Just like mbc game shutting down and fox/hero/hyte/oz disbanding. BW was totally on the up and up towards its end. The introduction of dota 2 to korea will also be really good for lol, competition and all you know. Then again when WC3 started being broadcasted in Korea nothing much changed in the BW world really
Not sure how comparable this is, especially since wc3 was killed by map fixing right before it was able to truly take of. Also BW had been established for many many years, lol is still fairly new. I guess we'll have to wait and see, gomtv AND ogn doing dota 2 should still mean a lot. WC3 was only on mbc afaik. Now don't get me wrong I don't even play/watch either game, so I really couldn't care less. As long as there are koreans playing starcraft professionally I'm fine.
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if DOTA 2 hurts anything, it'll be SC2, not LOL
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On October 02 2013 17:07 Lorch wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 17:05 UmberBane wrote:On October 02 2013 17:01 Lorch wrote:On October 02 2013 16:57 mongmong wrote:On October 02 2013 16:24 myminerals wrote:On October 02 2013 14:54 UmberBane wrote:On October 02 2013 14:50 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
And so it continues. I wonder what warcraft3 forums was like everday when the game was dying. For convenience you could also check out some older BW posts BW was never dying and Kespa would still play it, and we would witness new OSL champions and crowded stadiums and new amazing games. All this could be our today's reality. SC2 better be alive and flourishing, I think we sacrificed too much for its sake. Can you tell me why there was such a big time gap between jinair and tving starleague? I also want to to know why skt is sponsoring proleague. Youre dillusional if you really think broodwar wasnt dying Dude thats like totally natural and shit. Just like mbc game shutting down and fox/hero/hyte/oz disbanding. BW was totally on the up and up towards its end. The introduction of dota 2 to korea will also be really good for lol, competition and all you know. Then again when WC3 started being broadcasted in Korea nothing much changed in the BW world really Not sure how comparable this is, especially since wc3 was killed by map fixing right before it was able to truly take of. Also BW had been established for many many years, lol is still fairly new. I guess we'll have to wait and see, gomtv AND ogn doing dota 2 should still mean a lot. WC3 was only on mbc afaik. Now don't get me wrong I don't even play/watch either game, so I really couldn't care less. As long as there are koreans playing starcraft professionally I'm fine.
Just so you know, LoL has been on TV longer in Korea than SC2. It isn't that new. 
On October 02 2013 17:14 negativedge wrote:
if DOTA 2 hurts anything, it'll be SC2, not LOL
I'm not so sure if it does hurt SC2. It wouldn't surprise me if without the publisher funding from games like WoT/dota2, GOM might have serious financial trouble nowadays, which would then again show on the SC2 side of things, aswell.
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On October 02 2013 17:15 UmberBane wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 17:07 Lorch wrote:On October 02 2013 17:05 UmberBane wrote:On October 02 2013 17:01 Lorch wrote:On October 02 2013 16:57 mongmong wrote:On October 02 2013 16:24 myminerals wrote:On October 02 2013 14:54 UmberBane wrote:On October 02 2013 14:50 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
And so it continues. I wonder what warcraft3 forums was like everday when the game was dying. For convenience you could also check out some older BW posts BW was never dying and Kespa would still play it, and we would witness new OSL champions and crowded stadiums and new amazing games. All this could be our today's reality. SC2 better be alive and flourishing, I think we sacrificed too much for its sake. Can you tell me why there was such a big time gap between jinair and tving starleague? I also want to to know why skt is sponsoring proleague. Youre dillusional if you really think broodwar wasnt dying Dude thats like totally natural and shit. Just like mbc game shutting down and fox/hero/hyte/oz disbanding. BW was totally on the up and up towards its end. The introduction of dota 2 to korea will also be really good for lol, competition and all you know. Then again when WC3 started being broadcasted in Korea nothing much changed in the BW world really Not sure how comparable this is, especially since wc3 was killed by map fixing right before it was able to truly take of. Also BW had been established for many many years, lol is still fairly new. I guess we'll have to wait and see, gomtv AND ogn doing dota 2 should still mean a lot. WC3 was only on mbc afaik. Now don't get me wrong I don't even play/watch either game, so I really couldn't care less. As long as there are koreans playing starcraft professionally I'm fine. Just so you know, LoL has been on TV longer in Korea than SC2. It isn't that new.
I don't even think you read my sentence properly. I was comparing the situation of dota vs lol to bw vs wc3, and no offense but compared to how long bw had been around when wc3 started on mbc, lol is pretty new. And just like our western world, I think afreeca/gomtv are a lot stronger than one may think, though I do agree OGN is still the big mainstream popularizer.
I don't even get all the comparing to sc2, the games are two different genres, and personally I don't even see why I would want to switch from an rts to a moba, similiar to how I wouldn't necessarily see a logical step from a fighting game to an fps.
A game doesn't have to be the biggest one to be fine, I don't even have an interested in sc2 becoming THE ONE esport, like riot wants with lol.
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On October 02 2013 16:24 myminerals wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 14:54 UmberBane wrote:On October 02 2013 14:50 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
And so it continues. I wonder what warcraft3 forums was like everday when the game was dying. For convenience you could also check out some older BW posts BW was never dying and Kespa would still play it, and we would witness new OSL champions and crowded stadiums and new amazing games. All this could be our today's reality. SC2 better be alive and flourishing, I think we sacrificed too much for its sake.
The problem is SC2 was really a huge disappointement in Korea.
It was supposed to be better than BW and revive popularity of SC in Korea.
Lets suppose that popularity of BW was really in decline.
If SC2 was a better game than BW its popularity would have surpassed popularity of BW and would have matched LOL.
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On October 02 2013 17:18 Lorch wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 17:15 UmberBane wrote:On October 02 2013 17:07 Lorch wrote:On October 02 2013 17:05 UmberBane wrote:On October 02 2013 17:01 Lorch wrote:On October 02 2013 16:57 mongmong wrote:On October 02 2013 16:24 myminerals wrote:On October 02 2013 14:54 UmberBane wrote:On October 02 2013 14:50 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
And so it continues. I wonder what warcraft3 forums was like everday when the game was dying. For convenience you could also check out some older BW posts BW was never dying and Kespa would still play it, and we would witness new OSL champions and crowded stadiums and new amazing games. All this could be our today's reality. SC2 better be alive and flourishing, I think we sacrificed too much for its sake. Can you tell me why there was such a big time gap between jinair and tving starleague? I also want to to know why skt is sponsoring proleague. Youre dillusional if you really think broodwar wasnt dying Dude thats like totally natural and shit. Just like mbc game shutting down and fox/hero/hyte/oz disbanding. BW was totally on the up and up towards its end. The introduction of dota 2 to korea will also be really good for lol, competition and all you know. Then again when WC3 started being broadcasted in Korea nothing much changed in the BW world really Not sure how comparable this is, especially since wc3 was killed by map fixing right before it was able to truly take of. Also BW had been established for many many years, lol is still fairly new. I guess we'll have to wait and see, gomtv AND ogn doing dota 2 should still mean a lot. WC3 was only on mbc afaik. Now don't get me wrong I don't even play/watch either game, so I really couldn't care less. As long as there are koreans playing starcraft professionally I'm fine. Just so you know, LoL has been on TV longer in Korea than SC2. It isn't that new. I don't even think you read my sentence properly. I was comparing the situation of dota vs lol to bw vs wc3, and no offense but compared to how long bw had been around when wc3 started on mbc, lol is pretty new. I don't even get all the comparing to sc2, the games are two different genres, and personally I don't even see why I would want to switch from an rts to a moba, similiar to how I wouldn't necessarily see a logical step from a fighting game to an fps. A game doesn't have to be the biggest one to be fine, I don't even have an interested in sc2 becoming THE ONE esport, like riot wants with lol.
Uh sure? Quite the tangent but that's obviously totally fine, I haven't seen anyone asking you to switch to a genre that you don't enjoy. I don't like the comparisons either, but it's a bit strange since I remember you opening up a comparison recently where you insulted another game, which was quite hilarious.
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more teams gonna go under. thank blizzard for this.
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On October 02 2013 16:57 JustPassingBy wrote:
KespA and Blizzard need some new tactic for the Korean market and they need it soon, as I doubt things will get better on their own over there.
haha KespA and Blizzard... Didn't you hear Blizzard have no friends! KespA is out promoting their LoL teams, not saving the developer who stabbed them in the back over control and money.
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On October 02 2013 17:23 UmberBane wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 17:18 Lorch wrote:On October 02 2013 17:15 UmberBane wrote:On October 02 2013 17:07 Lorch wrote:On October 02 2013 17:05 UmberBane wrote:On October 02 2013 17:01 Lorch wrote:On October 02 2013 16:57 mongmong wrote:On October 02 2013 16:24 myminerals wrote:On October 02 2013 14:54 UmberBane wrote:On October 02 2013 14:50 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
And so it continues. I wonder what warcraft3 forums was like everday when the game was dying. For convenience you could also check out some older BW posts BW was never dying and Kespa would still play it, and we would witness new OSL champions and crowded stadiums and new amazing games. All this could be our today's reality. SC2 better be alive and flourishing, I think we sacrificed too much for its sake. Can you tell me why there was such a big time gap between jinair and tving starleague? I also want to to know why skt is sponsoring proleague. Youre dillusional if you really think broodwar wasnt dying Dude thats like totally natural and shit. Just like mbc game shutting down and fox/hero/hyte/oz disbanding. BW was totally on the up and up towards its end. The introduction of dota 2 to korea will also be really good for lol, competition and all you know. Then again when WC3 started being broadcasted in Korea nothing much changed in the BW world really Not sure how comparable this is, especially since wc3 was killed by map fixing right before it was able to truly take of. Also BW had been established for many many years, lol is still fairly new. I guess we'll have to wait and see, gomtv AND ogn doing dota 2 should still mean a lot. WC3 was only on mbc afaik. Now don't get me wrong I don't even play/watch either game, so I really couldn't care less. As long as there are koreans playing starcraft professionally I'm fine. Just so you know, LoL has been on TV longer in Korea than SC2. It isn't that new. I don't even think you read my sentence properly. I was comparing the situation of dota vs lol to bw vs wc3, and no offense but compared to how long bw had been around when wc3 started on mbc, lol is pretty new. I don't even get all the comparing to sc2, the games are two different genres, and personally I don't even see why I would want to switch from an rts to a moba, similiar to how I wouldn't necessarily see a logical step from a fighting game to an fps. A game doesn't have to be the biggest one to be fine, I don't even have an interested in sc2 becoming THE ONE esport, like riot wants with lol. Uh sure? Quite the tangent but that's obviously totally fine, I haven't seen anyone asking you to switch to a genre that you don't enjoy. I don't like the comparisons either, but it's a bit strange since I remember you opening up a comparison recently where you insulted another game, which was quite hilarious.
I didn't open it but rather responded to one and responded in a way I saw fit. But since one is not entitled to an opinion on how shitty certain games are I should have just kept my mouth shut^^ I'm not saying anyone is asking me, I'm saying I'm having an easier time imagining koreans switching from lol to dota than from star 2 to dota. But then again I figured the same with bw/lol/sc2.
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On October 02 2013 17:05 UmberBane wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 17:01 Lorch wrote:On October 02 2013 16:57 mongmong wrote:On October 02 2013 16:24 myminerals wrote:On October 02 2013 14:54 UmberBane wrote:On October 02 2013 14:50 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
And so it continues. I wonder what warcraft3 forums was like everday when the game was dying. For convenience you could also check out some older BW posts BW was never dying and Kespa would still play it, and we would witness new OSL champions and crowded stadiums and new amazing games. All this could be our today's reality. SC2 better be alive and flourishing, I think we sacrificed too much for its sake. Can you tell me why there was such a big time gap between jinair and tving starleague? I also want to to know why skt is sponsoring proleague. Youre dillusional if you really think broodwar wasnt dying Dude thats like totally natural and shit. Just like mbc game shutting down and fox/hero/hyte/oz disbanding. BW was totally on the up and up towards its end. The introduction of dota 2 to korea will also be really good for lol, competition and all you know. Then again when WC3 started being broadcasted in Korea nothing much changed in the BW world really
If Blizzard just made a visual revamp to BW, then I'm pretty sure it'll still be going strong(er than ever).
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On October 02 2013 14:22 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 14:19 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:ugh, just punch after punch to the stomach  as long as IM doesn't disband or lose all their sponsors I think I can survive this
you might want to sit for a while...
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Sorry.
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On October 02 2013 17:33 LeLfe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 14:22 Dodgin wrote:On October 02 2013 14:19 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:ugh, just punch after punch to the stomach as long as IM doesn't disband or lose all their sponsors I think I can survive this you might want to sit for a while...
If you know something spit it out don't be a fucking tease
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