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Code S - Ro16 Group C Recap (Season 3)

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September 28th, 2013 00:46 GMT
2013 GSL Season 2

WCS Korea Season 3
GSL Code S



Ro16 - Group C Recap
Jjakji and soO advance.


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Ro16 Group C Recap

Jjakji and soO advance to Ro16, INnoVation and Super eliminated

by stuchiu

First in the line of one-and-done GSL champions, (T)mYi.jjakji was the target of much skepticism when he finally made it back into Code S after over a year in Code A exile. Well, doubt no more. Jjakji returned into full form last night as he played the best Starcraft he had shown since his championship run in November of 2011. While it remains to be seen whether or not jjakji is a championship caliber player, he showed he is certainly an excellent on. (Z)Sniper and (P)Seed, please take note.

However, the unexpected revival of one championship winning Terran came at the cost of the equally surprising collapse of another. (T)Acer.INnoVation, considered by far the favorite to advance from the group beforehand, fell to both (T)jjakji and (Z)SKT_soO to be eliminated from the tournament.

Ro16 - Group C
1.(T)mYi.jjakji2 - 0
2.(Z)SKT_soO2 - 1
3.(T)Acer.INnoVation1 - 2
4.(P)MVP.Super0 - 2


Detailed results from Live Report Thread by Shellshock.
+ Show Spoiler [Click for Detailed Results] +
INnoVation vs Super
(T)INnoVation <Frost> (P)Super
(T)INnoVation <Whirlwind > (P)Super
(T)INnoVation <> (P)Super

(T)INnoVation wins 2-0!

jjakji vs soO
(T)jjakji <Yeonsu> (Z)soO
(T)jjakji <Frost> (Z)soO
(T)jjakji <> (Z)soO

(T)jjakji wins 2-0!

Winners' Match
(T)INnoVation <Polar Night> (T)jjakji
(T)INnoVation <Whirlwind> (T)jjakji
(T)INnoVation <Akilon Wastes> (T)jjakji

(T)jjakji wins 2-1!

Losers' Match
(P)Super <Polar Night> (Z)soO
(P)Super <Derelict Watcher> (Z)soO
(P)Super <Akilon Wastes> (Z)soO

(Z)soO wins 2-1!

Final Match
(T)INnoVation <Whirlwind> (Z)soO
(T)INnoVation <Akilon Wastes> (Z)soO
(T)INnoVation <> (Z)soO

(Z)soO wins 2-0!



(T)jjakji and (Z)soO advance to WCS KR GSL Ro8!


Call it a Comeback

(T)Jjakji started off the night by facing the maddeningly consistent (Z)SKT_soO. An extremely well-executed 8-8-8 build caught soO off guard, giving jjakji a quick 1 - 0 lead.

In a drastic change of pace, the second game on Frost allowed both Jjakji and Soo to show off their late-game abilities as both players bashed heads in the middle of the map over and over again. Though Jjakji seemed to get the upper-hand in engagements, Soo found a way to just barely defend and force a constant state of deadlock. In the process, both players continually expanded outward on the map until it was nearly a split map situation.

As the game dragged on Jjakji was finally able to get a decisive edge over soO with his better management in late-game TvZ. With Soo transitioning into ultra-muta-ling-bane, Jjakji took advantage of Soo’s less mobile units to continually drop harass all over the map, all the while clearing the creep out of the center and setting up a well-entrenched position. This culminated in a desperate attempt by Soo to bust through the center, trying to break Jjakji's ever tightening grip on the game. However, Jjakji was able to easily hold off the attack, and with even more crippling drop harass left soO no choice but to surrender the series.

The winner's match against (T)INnoVation was rougher for Jjakji, but he emerged victorious nonetheless. He began the series by getting the worse end of an accidental base trade, leaving him down one game early on.

However, Jjakji rallied back by beating Innovation twice with better positional play to win the series. In the second game, Jjakji distracted all of INnovation’s anti-air defenses with a banshee, using the diversion to break the natural with an autoturret-marine-tank push. The last game saw Jjakji scare Innovation with a frontal assault on Akilon Wastes which turned into a slow siege from the natural. From there Jjakji slowly chipped away until he forced an overaggressive tank hop-step from a frustrated INnoVation. Jjakji quickly rushed in and killed the tanks with his marines, wiping out the backbone of INnoVation's defenses to win the game.

SoO Good

Down in the losers match, (Z)soO was joined by (P)MVP.Super, who had failed to survive INnoVation's marine-marauder-medivac barrage in his initial series.

In the first set, Soo got the upper hand in getting to the late game with a stronger economy, and used a muta transition to catch Super off guard. However, Super was able to balance offense and defense perfectly, marching a portion of his army across the map while he held off the mutas at home with reinforcing blink stalkers and phoenixes. soO was unable to deal with this perfect division of forces, and GG'd out of game one.

After learning from his mistakes in the first game, Soo opted for a fast ling speed into double upgrades for games two and three. Both times he got ahead of Super in economy and tech, winning late with one big engagement to end it all. In the second game he swarmed over Super with mutas, ultras and lings. In the third game it was with a large broodlord-corruptor-queen-ultra army that gave soO the win.

Soo then went onto the final match, where he made himself the third Zerg this month to break Innovation in the TvZ matchup. DRG had out-mechaniched Innovation in straight up macro games. Curious had outsmarted and out-strategized Innovation in the IEM qualifiers. In soO's case, he brought back the roach bane all in to punish Innovation for his greed on game one. In the second game he went head to head with Innovation in a macro game, and while it looked good for Innovation as he started to rev up his endless 3 base parade push, Soo caught him slipping with one bad engagement and chased him all the way back to his base. With half his units on a move rally across the map, Innovation was cut down by Soo’s army that did massive damage to the medivac count and SCV line. From there Soo transitioned into ultralisks and dealt the final blow to Innovation’s once vaunted TvZ.

PartinG Notes

(T)INnoVation, the false idol? — Once considered the heir to the Terran throne after Mvp’s voluntary exile to WCS EU, INnoVation has yet to fill the hole that Mvp left behind. Yes, he was the best player in the world for a while and even now he still belongs to the top tier. But the marked difference between the two is that Mvp had those mysterious intangibles, while INnoVation is hopelessly predictable. Innovation won because he was mechanically superior to everyone else. Mvp won because he was Mvp.

INnoVation's play is now starting to show cracks. With his loss to Jjakji, he has gone 7-22 in his last 29 TvT matches since the Hellbat patch. His TvZ is still the best in the world, but it is no longer untouchable. His PvT has become so predictable that Panic (who?) beat him the other night in GSTL with 9 cannons just waiting for his SCV pull. Innovation is still one of the strongest Terrans out there, but he is no longer at the head of the pack. He is just one of the many who dared to briefly sit on the throne that Mvp left behind.

Quick hit on (P)Super — What was that PvT build against Innovation? Two colossi into immortals into third base? What does that even beat?

Writers: stuchiu.
Graphics: wo1fwood.
Editor: Waxangel.
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Snipers
Profile Joined June 2011
United States11 Posts
September 28 2013 02:53 GMT
#2
Really pleased to see jjakji on the upswing. His GSL win against Leenock is still one of my favorite finals ever. I was afraid he'd fade into obscurity with the disbandment of NSHS, but he's proven me wrong.

jjakji hwaitingggg!
partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
September 28 2013 02:53 GMT
#3
LOL at the quick hit on super
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Canada152 Posts
September 28 2013 02:56 GMT
#4
RIP innovation
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Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-28 02:57:52
September 28 2013 02:57 GMT
#5
(T)Jjakji started off the night by facing the maddeningly consistent (Z)SKT_soO. An extremely well-executed 8-8-8 build caught soO off guard, giving jjakji a quick 1 - 0 lead.

Surely this doesn't mean 8 rax 8 fact 8 port..?

edit - the proxy reaper build?
Refer to my post.
partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
September 28 2013 02:57 GMT
#6
On September 28 2013 11:57 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
(T)Jjakji started off the night by facing the maddeningly consistent (Z)SKT_soO. An extremely well-executed 8-8-8 build caught soO off guard, giving jjakji a quick 1 - 0 lead.

Surely this doesn't mean 8 rax 8 fact 8 port..?


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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
September 28 2013 02:57 GMT
#7
Panic (who?)

Show some respect to the guy who defeated Bear to claim the UWC title!
really happy to see jjakji back, though. Imagine if he reappears from nowhere this season, takes the gsl title, and then disappears off to WCS EU for next season like he's supposed to. Would be a total jjakji move
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Last Edited: 2013-09-28 03:08:08
September 28 2013 03:07 GMT
#8
I predict, I see ....... jjaki with his second GSL win!
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United States976 Posts
September 28 2013 03:08 GMT
#9
Poor Super lol
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Canada798 Posts
September 28 2013 03:41 GMT
#10
I loved the bit comparing Mvp to Innovation, really brought some perspective to things for me, for a while now, i had forgotten just how great Mvp was/is, i may just go back and watch some of his GSL tournament winning runs.
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United States1096 Posts
September 28 2013 03:41 GMT
#11
So when does Roro get added to the JJakji Sniper Seed list?
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United States744 Posts
September 28 2013 03:47 GMT
#12
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United States1557 Posts
September 28 2013 03:54 GMT
#13
That was such a random botched engagement by Innovation against Soo. No disrespect to Soo, but he really didn't deserve to win that. And just how quickly does the starcraft community usually bury the champions of yesterday? I don't think you could make a remotely credible argument that Innovation isn't still the overall best player, even with his weak spot of TvT.
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Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-28 03:59:26
September 28 2013 03:58 GMT
#14
On September 28 2013 12:54 Pontius Pirate wrote:
That was such a random botched engagement by Innovation against Soo. No disrespect to Soo, but he really didn't deserve to win that. And just how quickly does the starcraft community usually bury the champions of yesterday? I don't think you could make a remotely credible argument that Innovation isn't still the overall best player, even with his weak spot of TvT.

You'll have a hard time convincing anyone that a player deserves to be called the best in the world when he's so bad at TvT that you know he's probably going to lose whenever he goes up against anyone good. Innovation is basically a one matchup specialist at this point, and even his TvZ has looked sketchy lately.
comadiroma
Profile Joined June 2011
United States17 Posts
September 28 2013 04:00 GMT
#15
What was that PvT build against Innovation? Two colossi into immortals into third base? What does that even beat?


Even as a Zerg player with limited knowledge of the PvT match up I was wondering the same thing...

I think Tastetosis put it best: "Innovation didn't even do anything fancy, he just showed up at the front door and went 'You're not supposed to have that' and killed him"
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Canada932 Posts
September 28 2013 04:06 GMT
#16
Innovation confirmed patch terran.

User was temp banned for this post.
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United States2847 Posts
September 28 2013 04:09 GMT
#17
Jjakji's back? :-O Man, he came outta nowhere!!

Sad to see INnoVation not make it out.
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Profile Joined October 2012
Canada122 Posts
September 28 2013 04:13 GMT
#18
On September 28 2013 12:54 Pontius Pirate wrote:
That was such a random botched engagement by Innovation against Soo. No disrespect to Soo, but he really didn't deserve to win that. And just how quickly does the starcraft community usually bury the champions of yesterday? I don't think you could make a remotely credible argument that Innovation isn't still the overall best player, even with his weak spot of TvT.


Actually you can. It doesn't matter if your the best TvZ in the world or the best TvP (which I doubt he does) in the world if the moment you run into Taeja, MMA, Bomber, or in this case Jjakji and you lose. The best player in the world should be top 3 in the world in all matches which he just isn't now. He's definately top 10 but I wouldn't even place him top 5 anymore when there are so many players that are better then him TvT and good enough in the other matches so it doesn't matter.
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Canada231 Posts
September 28 2013 04:52 GMT
#19
On September 28 2013 13:13 B_Type13X2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 12:54 Pontius Pirate wrote:
That was such a random botched engagement by Innovation against Soo. No disrespect to Soo, but he really didn't deserve to win that. And just how quickly does the starcraft community usually bury the champions of yesterday? I don't think you could make a remotely credible argument that Innovation isn't still the overall best player, even with his weak spot of TvT.


Actually you can. It doesn't matter if your the best TvZ in the world or the best TvP (which I doubt he does) in the world if the moment you run into Taeja, MMA, Bomber, or in this case Jjakji and you lose. The best player in the world should be top 3 in the world in all matches which he just isn't now. He's definately top 10 but I wouldn't even place him top 5 anymore when there are so many players that are better then him TvT and good enough in the other matches so it doesn't matter.

Honestly? As much as I admire Inno, it's becoming hard to call even his TvZ dominating. Lost to DRG. Lost to SoO. Lost to Curious in the IEM qualifiers. Beat Hyun in the Acer teamstory cup. Those are his recent results against remotely good zergs.

Which...aren't bad results, but don't necessarily indicate a player so good at the matchup that you can call them the best purely because of their TvZ.
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Canada122 Posts
September 28 2013 05:08 GMT
#20
On September 28 2013 13:52 metroid composite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 13:13 B_Type13X2 wrote:
On September 28 2013 12:54 Pontius Pirate wrote:
That was such a random botched engagement by Innovation against Soo. No disrespect to Soo, but he really didn't deserve to win that. And just how quickly does the starcraft community usually bury the champions of yesterday? I don't think you could make a remotely credible argument that Innovation isn't still the overall best player, even with his weak spot of TvT.


Actually you can. It doesn't matter if your the best TvZ in the world or the best TvP (which I doubt he does) in the world if the moment you run into Taeja, MMA, Bomber, or in this case Jjakji and you lose. The best player in the world should be top 3 in the world in all matches which he just isn't now. He's definately top 10 but I wouldn't even place him top 5 anymore when there are so many players that are better then him TvT and good enough in the other matches so it doesn't matter.

Honestly? As much as I admire Inno, it's becoming hard to call even his TvZ dominating. Lost to DRG. Lost to SoO. Lost to Curious in the IEM qualifiers. Beat Hyun in the Acer teamstory cup. Those are his recent results against remotely good zergs.

Which...aren't bad results, but don't necessarily indicate a player so good at the matchup that you can call them the best purely because of their TvZ.


That's pretty much my opinion of it as well, I was trying to be polite to innovation though and give him the nod for atleast one matchup. To me the guy just seems to crumble, as was mentioned about his engagement vs. Soo he got frustrated and pretty much threw the game away. For a player to be the best in the world they also cannot become emotionally engrossed in the game, they have to make decisions independent of frustration, ego or anger. Innovation was lauded as a robotic player who played clean strong macro and made good decisions now were seeing those very real cracks. And he is a very good player but he should step back from tournaments for a few weeks and get his head screwed back on straight before he destroys his legacy before he builds it.

I don't want to say it but what separates Innovation from players like Seed and Sniper right now? He won a major tournament, so did they, then they fell off a cliff right after. Is it his lingering before dying that somehow separates him? Someone else mentioned Roro in the same sentence as Seed and Sniper, if he is drawing that sort of comparison already why isn't innovation?
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