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sad day again... no best, no s2, no bisu, no boxer Get well, the emperor...
Boxer steps down as SKT head coach, replaced by iloveoov -…
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1707 Posts
sad day again... no best, no s2, no bisu, no boxer Get well, the emperor... | ||
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fireforce7
United States334 Posts
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Soohyung
Korea (South)116 Posts
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Hassan_RO
Romania77 Posts
Hope his health is OK. Regarding his results as coach, i can't help but recognize a pattern i've seen a lot in another beloved sport, football (at least here in Europe) A lot of footballing legends who were amazing players of world caliber become dissapointingly bad coaches, but everyone still has extremely high expectations of them because of the results they had as a player. In my home Romania, Hagi is like that, but i think there are examples in every country But, on the flipside you have guys like Mourinho or Rafa Benitez who never played top football but make amazing coaches. Coming back to SC2, it was obvious that when you take Boxer away from the keyboard and mouse and you try to make him coordinate people or do any kind of management, you're asking for trouble. Slayers was a prime example of this. It was my favorite team in Korea because of Boxer, but after i saw the reports here that actually Jessica is running everything (player contracts, team statements, down to even tieing Boxer's shoes !!?!), and especially after he left his own-created and sponsored team to become T1 coach, i started to realize that he's more like a leaf in the wind, not a strong manager or coach/leader by any sorts. An amazing, world-dominating player...but that was it. T1's results speak for themselves from this point of view, and i don't know if Oov can mend things. Coming back from military service with a heightened sense of discipline, he might be able to wip the team into shape, or he might just be another awesome player turned mediocre coach. We have to wait and see. Hope you get well Boxer, you will always be in our hearts! But, stop trying to be something you're not. | ||
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elKaDor
Sweden376 Posts
one of the best ever | ||
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humblegar
Norway883 Posts
I am a little worried about his health and what he wants to do, but we will probably find out soon enough. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
On September 27 2013 13:36 fireforce7 wrote: dangit...just when i thought the team was going to be reunited! =/. It doesn't say he's leaving the team, just that he's not going to be the "head coach" anymore. Which is something he never really wanted to do anyway. He'll probably end up being the Terran coach. | ||
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theMagus
578 Posts
 edit: i do hope oov can do a better job at developing fantasy. | ||
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SEA KarMa
Australia452 Posts
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Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
I'm not translating this very short article since it contains nothing more than some well known Boxer facts and uses kotaku article as source for the leaving e-sports part. | ||
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forumtext
575 Posts
Exactly what happened with Boxer and SKT? | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On October 02 2013 10:59 forumtext wrote: I just realized something. As of today there have been 3 SKT interviews after Boxer left, they consist of Fantasy, Parting, Soo. But not a single one of them expressed any gratitude towards the legendary Boxer, not even Fantasy! And what's more, 2 of the interviews even claimed that "the atmosphere has improved since Oov's return". Exactly what happened with Boxer and SKT? I don't find that hard to believe in Fantasy's case since BoxeR was in Ace and guess who coached Fantasy back then? The Gorilla Terran himself. | ||
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larse
1611 Posts
On October 02 2013 10:59 forumtext wrote: I just realized something. As of today there have been 3 SKT interviews after Boxer left, they consist of Fantasy, Parting, Soo. But not a single one of them expressed any gratitude towards the legendary Boxer, not even Fantasy! And what's more, 2 of the interviews even claimed that "the atmosphere has improved since Oov's return". Exactly what happened with Boxer and SKT? Bisu talked about Boxer when in today's interview. He said Boxer left right after him, so maybe his retirement has affected Boxer. | ||
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forumtext
575 Posts
On October 02 2013 11:02 StarStruck wrote: I don't find that hard to believe in Fantasy's case since BoxeR was in Ace and guess who coached Fantasy back then? The Gorilla Terran himself. But Boxer coached Oov, so that make Boxer his Grandmaster? With the whole "respect your elder" emphasis in Korean culture, I find this whole thing very strange. On October 02 2013 11:07 larse wrote: Bisu talked about Boxer when in today's interview. He said Boxer left right after him, so maybe his retirement has affected Boxer. Bisu needs to stop blaming himself for everything. Boxer/SKT said it themselves, it's a health issue  . Unless Bisu actually believes that his retirement has damage Boxer's health so much that he can't even do proper retirement announcement. Also why the hell is everyone acting like nothing happened and even at times seem optimistic? If Boxer's health has deteriorated so much that he can no longer continue to do what he love, they should all be sad and say a bunch of "get well soon". | ||
Falling
Canada11348 Posts
On October 02 2013 10:59 forumtext wrote: I just realized something. As of today there have been 3 SKT interviews after Boxer left, they consist of Fantasy, Parting, Soo. But not a single one of them expressed any gratitude towards the legendary Boxer, not even Fantasy! And what's more, 2 of the interviews even claimed that "the atmosphere has improved since Oov's return". Exactly what happened with Boxer and SKT? I wouldn't read too far into that. Maybe there's something, maybe there isn't. And sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. In the meantime I would refrain from interpreting ill-feelings simply based on silence. | ||
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forumtext
575 Posts
On October 02 2013 11:35 Falling wrote: I wouldn't read too far into that. Maybe there's something, maybe there isn't. And sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. In the meantime I would refrain from interpreting ill-feelings simply based on silence. I want it to be a lie | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On October 02 2013 11:30 forumtext wrote: But Boxer coached Oov, so that make Boxer his Grandmaster? With the whole "respect your elder" emphasis in Korean culture, I find this whole thing very strange. Bisu needs to stop blaming himself for everything. Boxer/SKT said it themselves, it's a health issue . Unless Bisu actually believes that his retirement has damage Boxer's health so much that he can't even do proper retirement announcement. Also why the hell is everyone acting like nothing happened and even at times seem optimistic? If Boxer's health has deteriorated so much that he can no longer continue to do what he love, they should all be sad and say a bunch of "get well soon". Well aware of the 'elder' thing but you have to understand that Gorilla is the guy who made strides with Fantasy. Not BoxeR. He was out of the picture. No point trying to connect the dots in that case. I'm sure he respects both, but he is definitely way more familiar with Oov. Boxer has a lot on his plate man and let him take care of his personal issues. Bisu's comments relate more to the 'respecting your elders' category. He was just being respectful and wanted to wish BoxeR all the best after retirement. It was more of a reflection. The other guys on the other hand have a job to do and cannot dwindle on anything so I'd say this shows their focus on winning and improving their game. Having a positive mindset is a great way to achieve victory. There is no time to feel sad for others. They must focus on themselves and what do you know. They're speaking a good game. As a coach this is everything I would want to hear because it would tell me their minds are in the right place to be successful. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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allmylifethereyougo
United Kingdom24 Posts
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hafsahomar
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