• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 06:12
CET 12:12
KST 20:12
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners11Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada2SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA7StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4
StarCraft 2
General
SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t Craziest Micro Moments Of All Time? RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close"
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions Where's CardinalAllin/Jukado the mapmaker?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Grand Finals [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1673 users

Bisu retires - Page 54

Forum Index > SC2 General
1100 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 52 53 54 55 56 Next
SChlafmann
Profile Joined September 2011
France725 Posts
September 12 2013 22:15 GMT
#1061
On September 13 2013 06:04 SAFenix wrote:
It's been like 5 days and the sadness still hasn't left yet


Same here. I can't believe he just left like that....
"More GG, more skill" - Nope! Chuck Testa - #BISU2013
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
September 12 2013 23:07 GMT
#1062
I've been regularly watching BW Bisu games for the last week or so :/
It was a great time indeed.
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
September 12 2013 23:27 GMT
#1063
Manly tears were shed today
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
imperator-xy
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Germany1377 Posts
September 13 2013 00:20 GMT
#1064
On September 13 2013 07:15 SChlafmann wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 06:04 SAFenix wrote:
It's been like 5 days and the sadness still hasn't left yet


Same here. I can't believe he just left like that....

i thought exactly the same just seconds ago before i went to tl

Bisu retiring is literally the saddest moment of my life
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
September 13 2013 02:06 GMT
#1065
watching state of play then suddenly I remembered this ;_;
AKMU / IU
Storchen
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden4385 Posts
September 13 2013 05:12 GMT
#1066
I started this account to be a fanboy of him back in the days.

Although I haven't followed his move to sc2 at all this is really sad news.
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5497 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-13 11:06:42
September 13 2013 11:06 GMT
#1067
When this thread only has 1/5 as many posts as thread, you know that something is wrong with this community.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5497 Posts
September 13 2013 11:08 GMT
#1068
On September 13 2013 14:12 Storchen wrote:
I started this account to be a fanboy of him back in the days.

Although I haven't followed his move to sc2 at all this is really sad news.

Amm he might play BW again like Jangbi so as somebody who didn't care about his SC2 performance I don't understand why this would make you sad.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
DinoToss
Profile Joined August 2013
Poland507 Posts
September 13 2013 11:14 GMT
#1069
On September 13 2013 20:08 thezanursic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 14:12 Storchen wrote:
I started this account to be a fanboy of him back in the days.

Although I haven't followed his move to sc2 at all this is really sad news.

Amm he might play BW again like Jangbi so as somebody who didn't care about his SC2 performance I don't understand why this would make you sad.

Because your favorite player is jobless. Considering the status of recent retirees it is sad.
My wrist really started to flare up. My colossi number started to pile up and with the last of my concentration I prepared for a win.
NeV
Profile Joined July 2008
Italy370 Posts
September 13 2013 11:16 GMT
#1070
well, cause if you are a fan of a player you want to see him winning something or at least doing well in the competition. Bw hasn't a professional scene anymore, yes you could see him streaming some games, but with no competition involved is way less interesting
SChlafmann
Profile Joined September 2011
France725 Posts
September 13 2013 11:29 GMT
#1071
Come on guys, where is the epicness Bisu deserves?
I hope he will start streaming some BW soon.
"More GG, more skill" - Nope! Chuck Testa - #BISU2013
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
September 13 2013 11:33 GMT
#1072
On September 13 2013 09:20 imperator-xy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 07:15 SChlafmann wrote:
On September 13 2013 06:04 SAFenix wrote:
It's been like 5 days and the sadness still hasn't left yet


Same here. I can't believe he just left like that....

i thought exactly the same just seconds ago before i went to tl

Bisu retiring is literally the saddest moment of my life

Then you had an insanely happy life till now.
BobLobIaw
Profile Joined April 2012
Oman142 Posts
September 13 2013 11:35 GMT
#1073
On September 13 2013 07:15 SChlafmann wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 06:04 SAFenix wrote:
It's been like 5 days and the sadness still hasn't left yet


Same here. I can't believe he just left like that....

same

User was warned for this post
KIM TAEK YONG HWAITING! Bisu[Shield] <3
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5497 Posts
September 13 2013 14:10 GMT
#1074
On September 13 2013 20:14 DinoToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 20:08 thezanursic wrote:
On September 13 2013 14:12 Storchen wrote:
I started this account to be a fanboy of him back in the days.

Although I haven't followed his move to sc2 at all this is really sad news.

Amm he might play BW again like Jangbi so as somebody who didn't care about his SC2 performance I don't understand why this would make you sad.

Because your favorite player is jobless. Considering the status of recent retirees it is sad.

Yeah, but they actually make way more money than you'd expect

Jangbi got more than 400$ within 45 minutes of him starting streaming.

And whichever SOSPA Korean gets invited to this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=428974 and wins 25 grand (Let's not kid ourself the Chinese don't have a chance) will be quite the bread-winner.

SC2 is dying and these players (at least the majority of them) are using BW as a transitionary period before they either go to College or to military. You should also consider that being a top streamer on Afreeca probably pays a lot more than a mid-tier progamer on an SC2 team.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
ErrantKnight
Profile Joined November 2012
Switzerland186 Posts
September 13 2013 14:28 GMT
#1075
With Bisu's retirement, 4 out of the 6 Dragons are gone. Indeed Jangbi, Best, Bisu and Goojila are now retired. Only Stork and free remain.
"Quantity is quality by itself"
nighcol
Profile Joined January 2012
298 Posts
September 13 2013 14:40 GMT
#1076
On September 13 2013 23:10 thezanursic wrote:
Yeah, but they actually make way more money than you'd expect

Jangbi got more than 400$ within 45 minutes of him starting streaming.

And whichever SOSPA Korean gets invited to this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=428974 and wins 25 grand (Let's not kid ourself the Chinese don't have a chance) will be quite the bread-winner.

SC2 is dying and these players (at least the majority of them) are using BW as a transitionary period before they either go to College or to military. You should also consider that being a top streamer on Afreeca probably pays a lot more than a mid-tier progamer on an SC2 team.


The question is: if more and more of them start streaming, playing SSL's and so on, will the stream viewership and the tournaments grow to accomodate them or will they be sharing the same small pie. Also will they get that 400$ consistently or was that just for the first streams (remember how Jaedong got a huge viewership for his first SC2 stream). I don't know but if it turns out to be the latter, then things don't look too good.
psiANIDe
Profile Joined January 2012
Korea (South)47 Posts
September 13 2013 15:01 GMT
#1077
Sorry BisuDagger, so so sorry....

Bisu I will miss you, one of my favorite BW Protoss. GL with military service.
KT Hwaiting!
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
September 13 2013 17:06 GMT
#1078
On September 13 2013 23:10 thezanursic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 20:14 DinoToss wrote:
On September 13 2013 20:08 thezanursic wrote:
On September 13 2013 14:12 Storchen wrote:
I started this account to be a fanboy of him back in the days.

Although I haven't followed his move to sc2 at all this is really sad news.

Amm he might play BW again like Jangbi so as somebody who didn't care about his SC2 performance I don't understand why this would make you sad.

Because your favorite player is jobless. Considering the status of recent retirees it is sad.

Yeah, but they actually make way more money than you'd expect

Jangbi got more than 400$ within 45 minutes of him starting streaming.

And whichever SOSPA Korean gets invited to this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=428974 and wins 25 grand (Let's not kid ourself the Chinese don't have a chance) will be quite the bread-winner.

SC2 is dying and these players (at least the majority of them) are using BW as a transitionary period before they either go to College or to military. You should also consider that being a top streamer on Afreeca probably pays a lot more than a mid-tier progamer on an SC2 team.

Jangbi got an incredible 'welcome batch' of balloons, pretty certain the numbers won't sustain that way. If the ultimate plan is to study and find a different career path after military service, I'd much rather see (ex-)progamers get things done immediately rather than stalling out time while making chump change from streaming.
[TLMS] REBOOT
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5497 Posts
September 13 2013 17:20 GMT
#1079
On September 13 2013 23:40 nighcol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 23:10 thezanursic wrote:
Yeah, but they actually make way more money than you'd expect

Jangbi got more than 400$ within 45 minutes of him starting streaming.

And whichever SOSPA Korean gets invited to this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=428974 and wins 25 grand (Let's not kid ourself the Chinese don't have a chance) will be quite the bread-winner.

SC2 is dying and these players (at least the majority of them) are using BW as a transitionary period before they either go to College or to military. You should also consider that being a top streamer on Afreeca probably pays a lot more than a mid-tier progamer on an SC2 team.


The question is: if more and more of them start streaming, playing SSL's and so on, will the stream viewership and the tournaments grow to accomodate them or will they be sharing the same small pie. Also will they get that 400$ consistently or was that just for the first streams (remember how Jaedong got a huge viewership for his first SC2 stream). I don't know but if it turns out to be the latter, then things don't look too good.

I don't know about that, but I can tell you that you get a LOT more money on Afreeca than on Twitch.tv

Koreans donate a lot of money.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 13 2013 17:30 GMT
#1080
On September 13 2013 20:06 thezanursic wrote:
When this thread only has 1/5 as many posts as thread, you know that something is wrong with this community.

Well Bisu never really got strong in SC2 so the SC2 scene does not recognize his retirement quite so much as Idra. Bisu was kinda quiet in SC2.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Prev 1 52 53 54 55 56 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 48m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 90
Rex 30
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 8246
Hyuk 2888
Soma 568
Stork 409
Snow 297
ZerO 250
Pusan 193
hero 189
Rush 144
Killer 132
[ Show more ]
sSak 122
Mong 93
Sharp 62
Barracks 47
ToSsGirL 45
Free 37
Shine 30
zelot 24
Terrorterran 23
Movie 22
Noble 19
Icarus 15
Sexy 11
Sea.KH 8
Dota 2
XaKoH 363
XcaliburYe166
League of Legends
JimRising 385
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1587
shoxiejesuss697
allub273
Other Games
B2W.Neo363
Pyrionflax229
crisheroes154
Sick119
NeuroSwarm41
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 1179
Other Games
gamesdonequick562
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 13
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Light_VIP 74
• LUISG 49
• Adnapsc2 15
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota237
League of Legends
• Stunt727
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Korean Royale
48m
Rex30
OSC
4h 48m
Replay Cast
11h 48m
Replay Cast
21h 48m
Kung Fu Cup
1d
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
1d 11h
The PondCast
1d 22h
RSL Revival
1d 22h
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
[ Show More ]
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
BSL 21
4 days
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
BSL 21
5 days
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-07
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.