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pylonsalad
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada649 Posts
September 06 2013 08:38 GMT
#61
Kespa should organize a BW league as well as a separate SC2 league and players should be allowed to participate in both if they want to. That would be the best of all possible worlds.
AJaX1740
Profile Joined June 2013
India59 Posts
September 06 2013 08:38 GMT
#62
On September 06 2013 17:33 lichter wrote:
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On September 06 2013 17:29 AJaX1740 wrote:
Fuck yeah.

Also, I've never watched BW, how hard or easy is it to follow the KeSPA cup with almost 0 knowledge of BW. I know a few units like Dragoons, Goliath, vultures but not much.


Depends on the casters, but it shouldn't be that hard.

This is pretty exciting

I just hope it doesn't open up the can of worms that is "BW vs SC2" and we all just have some good fun =/


It's inevitable.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 06 2013 08:39 GMT
#63
On September 06 2013 17:38 pylonsalad wrote:
Kespa should organize a BW league as well as a separate SC2 league and players should be allowed to participate in both if they want to. That would be the best of all possible worlds.


We had that once and it was horrifying.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
September 06 2013 08:40 GMT
#64
On September 06 2013 17:38 pylonsalad wrote:
Kespa should organize a BW league as well as a separate SC2 league and players should be allowed to participate in both if they want to. That would be the best of all possible worlds.


In a world of unlimited money and broadcast space... or you'd have to scale them both down by a lot
pylonsalad
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada649 Posts
September 06 2013 08:41 GMT
#65
On September 06 2013 17:39 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 17:38 pylonsalad wrote:
Kespa should organize a BW league as well as a separate SC2 league and players should be allowed to participate in both if they want to. That would be the best of all possible worlds.


We had that once and it was horrifying.


I'm not talking about a combined league, I mean 2 separate leagues.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-06 08:42:50
September 06 2013 08:42 GMT
#66
On September 06 2013 17:39 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 17:38 pylonsalad wrote:
Kespa should organize a BW league as well as a separate SC2 league and players should be allowed to participate in both if they want to. That would be the best of all possible worlds.


We had that once and it was horrifying.


Yeah playing two games at the same time on a professional level and being good at both has been proven unfeasible.

On September 06 2013 17:41 pylonsalad wrote:
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On September 06 2013 17:39 Gamegene wrote:
On September 06 2013 17:38 pylonsalad wrote:
Kespa should organize a BW league as well as a separate SC2 league and players should be allowed to participate in both if they want to. That would be the best of all possible worlds.


We had that once and it was horrifying.


I'm not talking about a combined league, I mean 2 separate leagues.


Doesn't really matter, you can't practice two separate games at the same time and be really good at both.

Would be absolutely fantastic though if they organized more BW tournaments.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
September 06 2013 08:42 GMT
#67
The Kespa Cup being Brood War - if it is more than a rumour - does raise a lot of questions about who will play in the cup. Will it be the same players who play Sc2? How will that affect the games? Or will there be some other solution? Being a team league they can't just put in retired sc2 players like Jangbi or a few Sospa stars but still have to field teams of players which demands a certain level of infrastructure.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
September 06 2013 08:42 GMT
#68
Hooray!!!
Get off my lawn, young punks
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
September 06 2013 08:43 GMT
#69
Proleague!! FUCK YEAH!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
pylonsalad
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada649 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-06 08:44:01
September 06 2013 08:43 GMT
#70
On September 06 2013 17:40 UmberBane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 17:38 pylonsalad wrote:
Kespa should organize a BW league as well as a separate SC2 league and players should be allowed to participate in both if they want to. That would be the best of all possible worlds.


In a world of unlimited money and broadcast space... or you'd have to scale them both down by a lot


Scaling them down is fine. In fact, we can have a full SC2 league with OSL and Proleague but only an OSL tournament for BW with no team league. There would still be enough fans for that.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
September 06 2013 08:44 GMT
#71
On September 06 2013 17:42 Heartland wrote:
The Kespa Cup being Brood War - if it is more than a rumour - does raise a lot of questions about who will play in the cup. Will it be the same players who play Sc2? How will that affect the games? Or will there be some other solution? Being a team league they can't just put in retired sc2 players like Jangbi or a few Sospa stars but still have to field teams of players which demands a certain level of infrastructure.


I'd guess something small that goes more in line with Sospa, hopefully with no one trying to play in both. Pick a game you enjoy (for w/e reasons) and play it well!
plgElwood
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany518 Posts
September 06 2013 08:45 GMT
#72
Broodwar :D
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-06 08:50:07
September 06 2013 08:45 GMT
#73
On September 06 2013 17:43 pylonsalad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 17:40 UmberBane wrote:
On September 06 2013 17:38 pylonsalad wrote:
Kespa should organize a BW league as well as a separate SC2 league and players should be allowed to participate in both if they want to. That would be the best of all possible worlds.


In a world of unlimited money and broadcast space... or you'd have to scale them both down by a lot


Scaling them down is fine. In fact, we can have a full SC2 league with OSL and Proleague but only an OSL tournament for BW with no team league. There would still be enough fans for that.



Well that's not what I would call scaling down, but rather having everything as it is but adding stuff on top of it. You would probably have to scale down the SC2 stuff in order to make space (broadcast-wise and financially) for a BW league. That's just an assumption of course, because I don't think KeSPA want to throw money around like that and OGN has a pretty full schedule anyway.
PPN
Profile Joined August 2011
France248 Posts
September 06 2013 08:50 GMT
#74
On September 06 2013 17:29 AJaX1740 wrote:
Fuck yeah.

Also, I've never watched BW, how hard or easy is it to follow the KeSPA cup with almost 0 knowledge of BW. I know a few units like Dragoons, Goliath, vultures but not much.


Well BW is an RTS, universe and lore are basically the same but that's about it. It's really a very different game from SC2 mechanic- and timing-wise. Especially Protoss and Zerg. But that shoudn't hinder you from understanding most of it.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
September 06 2013 08:58 GMT
#75
Wooooooohooooooo Proleague!

If EGTL stays I'd be a super happy man. I think they could compete this time around.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
September 06 2013 08:59 GMT
#76
On September 06 2013 17:58 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Wooooooohooooooo Proleague!

If EGTL stays I'd be a super happy man. I think they could compete this time around.


EGTLAllianceAxiomAcer for 8th team in Proleague!
MasterCynical
Profile Joined September 2012
505 Posts
September 06 2013 09:06 GMT
#77
so any news on whether this is the last proleague or not?
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
September 06 2013 09:06 GMT
#78
On September 06 2013 17:59 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 17:58 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Wooooooohooooooo Proleague!

If EGTL stays I'd be a super happy man. I think they could compete this time around.


EGTLAllianceAxiomAcer for 8th team in Proleague!


7th team... :I
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
September 06 2013 09:18 GMT
#79
On September 06 2013 17:58 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Wooooooohooooooo Proleague!

If EGTL stays I'd be a super happy man. I think they could compete this time around.


Very unlikely that they stay, although it's hard to say considering we're in a shift right now. Also it's not only about being able to compete, it's also about whether or not it's worth it for them to invest the time, effort and money to compete.

As for the idea that they're worthy opponents, I think it's a bit early to say. Do we know yet whether or not IM and MVP will compete in ProLeague? Because that could change things up quite a bit. :/
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
September 06 2013 09:20 GMT
#80
Well, for MVP we still have to wait for the LoL team trade that is going on with Samsung right now and see if there even will be a team MVP afterwards, or if it will all be under Samsung.
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