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Major Shift in KeSPA Structure: Open to All - Page 6

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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
August 28 2013 10:52 GMT
#101
Oh I forgot to add, if they merge Proleague and GSTL they better keep mind time!!!
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Ero-Sennin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States756 Posts
August 28 2013 10:57 GMT
#102
I don't know enough to know if this is good or bad. Anybody wanna inform me (wink wink nudge nudge)?
Luck makes talent look like genius.
Zahir
Profile Joined March 2012
United States947 Posts
August 28 2013 11:01 GMT
#103
Can someone well informed explain how this structure is financially feasible? Seems like they're just taking a sizable chunk of former revenue and making it optional, and relying on goodwill to survive... =/
What is best? To crush the Zerg, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of the Protoss.
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
August 28 2013 11:02 GMT
#104
I'm going to see this development as a positive thing.
And we'll see what else the future will bring.
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 28 2013 11:46 GMT
#105
oh that sucks if it means gstl will stop in the long run, but it is nice for the LoL teams I guess. Also Esport Tax !
ErrantKnight
Profile Joined November 2012
Switzerland186 Posts
August 28 2013 12:05 GMT
#106
This seems pretty good to me, esf and Kespa were in difficulty, both parties are now reunited in some sort
"Quantity is quality by itself"
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
August 28 2013 12:15 GMT
#107
On August 28 2013 19:52 Destructicon wrote:
Oh I forgot to add, if they merge Proleague and GSTL they better keep mind time!!!

mind time + zoozoo = O_o


does this lead into OGN -> korean LoL
GomTV -> korean SC2?
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 28 2013 12:17 GMT
#108
On August 28 2013 17:07 Fionn wrote:
So...this means EVERYONE is KeSPA now?

They're like Dr. Pepper.

KESPAAA!!!! whenever anyone wins?
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suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
August 28 2013 12:19 GMT
#109
good move

i'm wondering how this will affect how new players get progamer licenses/the rookie draft

if they even still will have it
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 28 2013 12:21 GMT
#110
cool, now kespa only needs to go global
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 28 2013 12:23 GMT
#111
Does this pave the way to GSTL + Proleague merge?
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
August 28 2013 12:27 GMT
#112
With this move, the biggest question is between the broadcasting factions: OGN and GOM.

Neither will just throw away viewers so easily.

But, a strong move by Kespa. I hope basically the Korean scene unites one way or another and that the broadcasting gets worked out in a beneficial way also.
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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
August 28 2013 12:28 GMT
#113
On August 28 2013 21:23 c0ldfusion wrote:
Does this pave the way to GSTL + Proleague merge?


Since all SC2 teams will now be on KeSPA it definitely does in a way, however the original KeSPA teams and the eSF teams need to come to some sort of an agreement.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
August 28 2013 12:32 GMT
#114
Still trying to decide whether this is a good thing or not. Will be back for a final verdict.
No church in the wild --- @tzhang0126
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 12:39:00
August 28 2013 12:38 GMT
#115
the joint league BEGINS

On August 28 2013 21:28 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2013 21:23 c0ldfusion wrote:
Does this pave the way to GSTL + Proleague merge?


Since all SC2 teams will now be on KeSPA it definitely does in a way, however the original KeSPA teams and the eSF teams need to come to some sort of an agreement.


I'd be suprised if LG-IM and MVP didn't hop across.
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 28 2013 12:39 GMT
#116
On August 28 2013 21:15 75 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2013 19:52 Destructicon wrote:
Oh I forgot to add, if they merge Proleague and GSTL they better keep mind time!!!

mind time + zoozoo = O_o


does this lead into OGN -> korean LoL
GomTV -> korean SC2?

I guess that's the plan.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
August 28 2013 12:42 GMT
#117
Does this mean they have to quit eSF?
AKMU / IU
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
August 28 2013 12:46 GMT
#118
On August 28 2013 21:42 shin_toss wrote:
Does this mean they have to quit eSF?


No though, in a sense, eSF no longer needs to exist. It was formed to protect the interests of the original SC2 teams in South Korea given that KeSPA for a while refused to knowledge SC2 as an eSport (wouldn't give out pro gamer licenses for it and such), and also to protect the teams from KeSPA potential bullying when they did get into SC2. Now that the eSF teams can be part of KeSPA they will have a say in how it operates and can more easily protect their interests, thus eSF has become kind of redundant.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
August 28 2013 12:53 GMT
#119
On August 28 2013 17:18 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2013 17:15 DarkLordOlli wrote:
But what do Kespa fanboys do now that everybody is Kespa

do they just cheer for everybody?

They reveal their true selves as bw elitists.


hahaha spot on.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
CountZero71
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany89 Posts
August 28 2013 12:58 GMT
#120
I think it's a good move. Kespa always seemed a bit stubborn and confined to their own small world, that might change now.
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